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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 7, 2023, 4:39 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/fight-over-word-woke-learn-130214988.html
[quote]The word woke is seminal to our larger culture in ways
most of us have never understood.
It’s one of the great words in American English and it should be
preserved in its purest form.
...
In Lead Belly's song "The Scottsboro Boys," the nine
African-American young men falsely accused of raping two white
women in Alabama, he admonishes his listeners to, “Best stay
woke!”
It’s believed to be the first recorded instance of the word.
As Huddie Ledbetter used “woke,” it meant that when you’re a
Black person travelling through a deeply racist state such as
Alabama, you need to know what you’re dealing with – a highly
refined form of evil.
Ledbetter would know. He travelled the byways of Louisiana,
Alabama and Texas singing his songs and confronting white
bigotry and its violence against Black people.[/quote]
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Re: Views towards America
By: SirGalahad Date: June 7, 2023, 5:58 pm
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Unfortunately, the word is basically dead. I never see leftists
use the word anymore. They’ve decided to collectively co-opt the
word “based”, as is typical. Most of the time, online leftists
just co-opt rightist slang and memes, either unaware or not
caring that doing so validates rightists. And on the occasion
that they DO come up with their own memes and slang, they let
themselves get bullied by rightists into not using it anymore
I basically never see leftists online use that word seriously. I
often see leftists defend the word and say that “Rightists don’t
even know what it means, and suck at trying to define it. Being
woke is a good thing”, but then they proceed to keep using the
word “based” anyways. If you still think the word “woke” is
positive, why are you not using it in an attempt to reintroduce
it??? With all the current discourse surrounding the word “woke”
at the present time, this would be the PERFECT TIME TO
REINTRODUCE IT, and you’re letting that window slip away when
the left-right culture war inevitably moves onto the next topic
to hyperfocus on
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 7, 2023, 6:15 pm
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[quote]"Operation Gaddafi, Anti-Racism & Anti-Zionism = based"
"Based" is a rightist compliment. We are leftists. If you wish
to compliment us, use "woke".[/quote]
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[quote]“Based” is a rightist compliment. As a True Leftist,
please do not adopt it as a compliment for other leftists, or
else we risk subconsciously absorbing rightist values as our own
at worst, or causing confusion at best.
For example, rightists call a “black” person who supports
“white” rule a “based n_____”, or a woman who supports
patriarchy a “based woman”, or a “homosexual” person who
believes “homosexuality” to be a mental illness a “based fag”,
and so on. (Likewise, Jews call a non-Jew who supports Jewish
domination a “Shabbos Goy”.) “Based” essentially describes
someone who consciously and candidly accepts their inferior
place within the Western hierarchy (the opposite of “uppity”).
You could even think of “based” as a shortened version of
“self-abasing”. As such, from a leftist perspective, there is
nothing admirable about being “based”.
Here we have “non-white” Jains migrating to Belgium and
challenging Jewish economic hegemony, which is in no way “based”
(ie. defeatist) behaviour even by the rightist definition. These
are Jains doing kampf! (Or if you want to use currently
fashionable words, “Woke” (a leftist compliment) would be
acceptable.)[/quote]
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Re: Views towards America
By: SirGalahad Date: June 7, 2023, 7:27 pm
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@90sRetroFan To clarify, by “you”, I’m referring to the
self-proclaimed leftists I was mentioning, that are aware that
being woke is a good thing, but continue to use the word “based”
anyways. Not you specifically. I know that you agree that the
word should be reintroduced into common vernacular. Maybe I
should’ve phrased my comment better
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 25, 2023, 4:24 pm
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Here is a mainstream article trying to use "woke" positively:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-terrified-woke-truths-just-100001631.html
[quote]Why the right is so terrified of "woke": There are truths
it just can't face
...
Long ago and far away in a country where we all seemed to
believe in roughly the same reality, many people in a political
party that traditionally talked up law and order and guffawed
that liberals needed to put on their "big-boy pants" to face the
harsh facts of the world lost their minds. How did this happen?
Well, they were reminded that there was such a thing as white
privilege. They had forgotten about it, possibly on purpose.
They were told that, yes, white privilege is a thing, and it's
pretty obvious. They fumed and feigned outrage at this accurate
report on the state of the real world until they convinced
themselves that it was a huge lie and an outrage. Coached by
their favorite enablers in the media, they worked themselves up
into an emotional lather until they could act their parts
somewhat convincingly, even with all the unrealistic lines.
Think of the Stanislavsky Method in acting, except this was the
Limbaugh Method of acting out.
...
The fight against "woke" (a term with a longer history than most
of us may realize) is strikingly similar to the fight the right
previously waged against "political correctness": It's an
existential battle against allowing people to be awakened — by
reading novels and history, by attending plays, by watching and
listening to actual news — through open discussion of privilege
or systemic racism or, to use a different but related term, the
underlying and nearly invisible structures of caste in America.
It is a fight to stop people from talking about those social
structures, or about the combination of religious zealotry and
political ideology at work to foreclose women's bodily autonomy.
It's a fight to prevent young people from expressing their
sexual and gender preferences, to make it more difficult for
certain groups of citizens to vote, and to keep books that might
make the most hypocritical and closed-minded evangelical
Christian pastors uncomfortable off the shelves of public
schools and libraries.
As with the freakout over the very suggestion that the category
known as "white" comes with unacknowledged privilege, the
cultural battle against "woke" strikes many combatants as an
existential struggle. By the rules of the age-old game of race
and caste and class privilege, they cannot allow themselves to
entertain the thought that the advocates of "woke" might have a
point.
...
we increasingly find ourselves ruled by an unnatural and
unworthy aristocracy, many of whom not only lack any discernible
virtue but gleefully represent negative virtues.
Donald Trump used his wealth and birthright (he was a
millionaire by age 8) to play-act as a successful businessman
and skirt the law time and again. He desperately wanted us to
believe he was the master of "The Art of the Deal" when his only
true art has been in grifting his fans and followers and in
obstructing justice with endless lawsuits and whiny claims of
persecution. Thanks to the laziness engendered by his wholly
undeserved privilege, he has failed many times as a businessman
and, mercifully, failed to overturn the 2020 election. Elon Musk
had the right combination of interlocked wealth and birth, and
his only "genius" lies in taking credit for the engineering work
of others. We now know much more than we ever wanted to about
his utter lack of virtue.
The political aristocracy is eager to point at its ideological
enemies, calling them the "woke" elite.
...
These days the actual political aristocracy — or at least their
well-paid minions in Congress — are always eager to point at
their ideological enemies, calling them the "woke" cultural
elite.
...
In the centuries since the notion of "whiteness" was created,
poor and working-class white men and women learned the
importance of rejecting the truth about white privilege.
Wilkerson quotes Yale scholar Liston Pope in 1942, writing: "The
mill worker with nobody else to 'look down on,' regards himself
as eminently superior to the Negro."
...
Trump is an example of white male privilege taken to its most
shameless extreme. He has such an exaggerated sense of his right
to do and say absolutely anything, absorbed over a lifetime of
unquestioned privilege, that he'd be happy to see his cult
followers burn the country to the ground rather than take any
responsibility for his own actions.
...
No one wants to admit privilege, especially if we feel it may
have been squandered. But the fight to confront and admit such
truths, whether or not that's what "woke" means, is a fight not
just to live up to the best possibilities of America, but to
become more fully human.[/quote]
Based comments:
[quote]"Woke" means 'anti-White ideology' and it is a genocidal
ideology.[/quote]
[quote]Woke refers to a philosophy/ideology. The philosophy is
that the White male and his western civilization are the cause
of all evil in the world.[/quote]
Yes. WE WILL REPLACE YOU! (<--- Woke response :) )
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-whiteness-476/msg20072/#msg20072
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-whiteness-476/msg20195/#msg20195
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-whiteness-476/msg20543/#msg20543
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Re: American Empire Collapse: It's About To Get Much Worse(?)
By: guest98 Date: July 19, 2023, 3:19 pm
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Fuck the U.S, worthless shabbos goy country. The world will be a
much better place when this [s]country[/s] cancer is totally
destroyed.
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 19, 2023, 4:11 pm
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Without the US we have no path to victory. Only the US military
is powerful enough to defeat our enemies. Dugin wants the US
destroyed for this very reason.
Every day the US moves closer to where we want it to be:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/
Our enemies are terrified out of their minds by this prospect
because they understand what it portends. This alone is enough
reason for us to remain hopeful about the US. What we need to
prevent is the US fragmenting before The Great Replacement is
complete, as that could easily mean much of its WMDs falling
into enemy hands.
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 21, 2023, 3:55 am
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"on the occasion that they DO come up with their own memes and
slang, they let themselves get bullied by rightists into not
using it anymore"
Exactly:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservatives-verbal-jiu-jitsu-turn-100041288.html
[quote]How conservatives use ‘verbal jiu-jitsu’ to turn
liberals’ language against them
...
Republicans are masters of verbal jiu-jitsu. It’s a form of
linguistic combat in which the practitioner takes a political
phrase or concept popularized by their opponent and gradually
turns into an unusable slur.
...
consider the evolution of “ woke.” The word is defined as being
“actively aware of social injustice.” But it has been
transformed into a contemporary scourge, one that a politician
compared to a “virus more dangerous than any pandemic, hands
down.”
Mention almost any touchstone phrase adopted by the left in
recent years — “critical race theory,” “diversity,” “global
warming,” even the word “liberal” itself — and it has been
redefined or tarnished by conservatives.
...
“Social justice warrior,” for example, didn’t start off as an
insult. What’s wrong with someone fighting on behalf of the poor
and exploited? Then the term was turned by conservatives and
internet culture into something else: a “whiny,” self-righteous
progressive who can’t take a joke.
Recent years have brought numerous headlines about another
liberal term that has been dismantled by the right.
Critical race theory was once an obscure academic discipline
that insisted that racism is more than individual prejudice;
it’s embedded in laws, policies and institutions. But
conservatives redirected the discussion and turned the term into
a catchall phrase that criticizes virtually any examination of
systemic racism or history that could make White people
uncomfortable.
...
Whatever the method, this form of verbal jiu-jitsu is used for
one purpose, says Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility,” a
popular book that spawned another popular liberal catchphrase.
“The function is to silence the conversation and to protect the
status quo,” DiAngelo says. “It doesn’t have to make sense. It
just has to work and get race off the table and prevent any
challenges to the status quo.”
...
In recent years many institutions have launched initiatives
around Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) to make their
workplaces more fair and diverse.
But Republican leaders are now comparing DEI initiatives to
“wokeness” and “loyalty oaths.”
...
Paulette Granberry Russell, president of the National
Association of Diversity Officers and Higher Education, recently
told a reporter she doesn’t use the acronym DEI anymore because
it’s been “weaponized.”[/quote]
All it would take is for leftists to stop being intimidated and
to proudly embrace the accusations levelled at them by
rightists. Why should we not require loyalty oaths? And no, we
indeed do not tolerate jokes that punch down! And yes, "whites"
should indeed be made uncomfortable! And so on. But False
Leftists are too cowardly to ever talk like this.
[quote]Republicans also have sought to reframe “equity,” which
means “being fair or impartial,” by calling the word “a “mandate
to discriminate.”[/quote]
Should we not discriminate against evil?
[quote]And they have attempted to delegitimize “diversity” by
expanding the term to “diversity industrial complex,” which a
critic described as “a bureaucratic juggernaut running roughshod
over every aspect of national life.”[/quote]
I never liked the term "diversity" to begin with. But we do very
much need an anti-"white' industrial complex. In fact, the main
reason why I dislike the term "diversity" is its cowardliness in
trying to portray anti-"whiteness" as merely pro-diversity.
[quote]Some of the most skillful practitioners of verbal
jiu-jitsu are able to disarm their opponents without them
knowing that they’ve given ground. As a result, liberals
eventually end up using the terms favored by their conservative
opponents.
The phrase “global warming” was popularized by the media and
some scientists in the 1980s. It’s been virtually eliminated
from public discourse by verbal jiu-jitsu.[/quote]
I still talk about global warming! Examples:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg20376/#msg20376
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg17703/#msg17703
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/china-the-ocean-is-not-japan's-trash-can/msg21146/#msg21146
Continuing:
[quote]Instead of acknowledging the science pointing toward a
looming environmental disaster, one Republican pollster offered
another phrase to mute the alarm: climate change.
That term was popularized in part by Frank Luntz, a Republican
pollster who advised GOP politicians in the early 2000s to stop
using the term “global warming” because it had “catastrophic
connotations” and reframe the issue as the more benign “climate
change.”[/quote]
I didn't even know this. But I always disliked the term "climate
change" and almost never use it.
[quote]Two decades later, many liberal politicians and activists
continue to use the phrase “climate change, the cognitive
scientist George Lakoff noted.
“The word ‘climate’ sounds nice – like palm trees or something –
and the word ‘change’, well, ‘change’ just happens,” Lakoff said
in an interview. “It’s not a big deal. Nothing you can do about
it. Not humanly caused. So, the term itself is a right-wing
position that people on the left just innocently adopted instead
of saying, well, this is a climate disaster that’s
approaching.”[/quote]
These are False Leftists. True Leftists never stopped talking
about global warming.
[quote]Take the word liberal, which is defined as someone who is
“open-minded,” “tolerant,” someone who believes in “personal
freedom” and that society should change “so that money, property
and power are shared more fairly.”
By the 1960s conservatives had successfully twisted liberalism’s
connotations to what one commentator described as a
“bureaucracy-loving, freedom-depriving, taxation-and-entitlement
ideology of largesse.”
But one famous Democrat knew better. He gave a master class in
defeating attempts to tarnish him with the word “liberal.”
John F. Kennedy met that perception head-on when he ran for
president in 1960, in a speech at a New York hotel. Instead of
dodging the label, Kennedy proudly embraced it.
“If by a ‘liberal’ they mean someone who looks ahead and not
behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions,”
he said, “someone who cares about the welfare of the people –
their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their
civil rights and their civil liberties… if that is what they
mean by a ‘liberal,’ then I’m proud to say I’m a
liberal.”[/quote]
I am not a liberal because I am a regressive, but I acknowledge
that JFK was not a coward. Which is part of why he was
assassinated.
[quote]Kennedy may have been a profile in linguistic courage,
but many left-leaning people in recent decades still chose to
call themselves “progressives” in subsequent decades after
conservatives continued tarnishing the term.[/quote]
The TYT cowards come to mind. The only good thing about the term
"progressive" is that it makes clearer the difference between
False Leftists and regressive True Leftists.
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Re: Western Civilization is UGLY
By: NoNewMoney Date: October 1, 2023, 1:39 pm
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The US Is Ugly. THIS is Why.
[quote]How did we get this suburban sprawl that we all have to
live with today? And what can we do to improve our communities?
Turns out it's lots of money, PR, and, you guessed it,
racism.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imAGg5Lj8lc
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 1, 2023, 2:46 pm
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13:40 ::)
I already knew the False Leftist was going to be Eurocentric
before even watching it. Even the blatantly anti-American
thumbnail gave it away.
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/counterculture-and-western-civilisation/msg18391/#msg18391
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/counterculture-and-western-civilisation/msg18904/#msg18904
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/counterculture-and-western-civilisation/msg20601/#msg20601
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