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Views towards America
By: rp Date: September 4, 2020, 10:36 pm
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Recently, I have seen False Leftists increasingly show their
true colors, some of whom now routinely denigrate America for
being "cultureless", while explicitly professing their
admiration for foreign Western countries such as the U.K., and
even *vomit* FRANCE. At least this will clear things up in the
future.
On the other hand, True Leftists are comfortable for describing
themselves as American, as they are loyal to the land in which
they live.
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
By: acc9 Date: November 11, 2020, 11:48 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vfdFTblIuY
Perhaps this is what we need right now..... miss those days,
miss those people, miss that age....
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Re: Leftists against progressivism
By: guest5 Date: November 17, 2020, 12:01 am
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[quote author=acc9 link=topic=149.msg2144#msg2144
date=1605160117]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vfdFTblIuY
Perhaps this is what we need right now..... miss those days,
miss those people, miss that age....
[/quote]
Old article from a now defunct blog:
What is the True Left and why is it needed?
[quote]It’s been 30 years since Michael Jackson and Lionel
Richie wrote the classic “We Are the World”. A decade and a half
into the 21st century, the tone among our generation is shifting
towards “We Are the First World”. In last year’s European
Parliament elections, the Front National won 23 out of France’s
74 seats. In the United Kingdom, the infamous UK Independence
Party finished third in the general election, beating the
Liberal Democrats, previously one of the “big three” British
parties. In Germany, the islamophobic movement PEGIDA managed to
gather 25,000 lost souls at a rally in Dresden in January, less
than a month after the organization was founded.[/quote]
HTML https://trueleftblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/usaforafrica.jpg
[quote]Bigotry and tribal attitudes are of course not a new
phenomenon. To the discredit of our species, they are as old as
mankind itself. However, the far-right being considered a more
attractive alternative to the status quo than the left by young
people is a fairly recent development. Since 9/11, mass media
has made it, in a more or less subtle manner, once more
fashionable to divide the world into the “civilized” West and
the “barbaric” rest. While more apathetic youths are embracing
skinny jeans, vinyl and mediocre Indie Rock-bands ripping off
the sounds of the 60s and 70s, another, even more cynic segment
is emerging which embraces the outlook and values of the 1950s.
Let’s be honest for a moment. In its present state, the left has
little to offer to counter this trend. Whereas the right has
mastered the art of catering to the lowest common denominator,
the left keeps on begging people to be “tolerant”. Yet tolerance
is a non-value. In effect, tolerance means turning a blind eye
to things you actually loathe deep inside. Now imagine what that
means for the whole rhetoric about tolerating other ethnic,
social or religious groups. By urging people to be tolerant, the
left is implying that there is indeed something wrong with other
groups. The only difference between the right and the left in
this regard is that the left claims that we have to put up with
them, while the right claims that we should not. The right is
never tired of coming up with reasons why not to put up with
other groups. Defending tolerance in turn is impossible, since
it means arguing that something deemed bad should be left
untouched.
Not that today’s left would straight up call something bad
though. The fallacy of tolerance hints at a deeper issue with
the left, namely that all values are considered to be purely
subjective. This means that right and wrong is not a matter of
ethics, but a matter of calculation. Whatever satisfies the
largest number of people is good, whatever does not is bad. This
of course is a hilariously weak foundation for a position driven
exclusively by idealism. The fear- and arrogance-driven right on
the other hand has a much easier time mobilizing its supporters.
The injection of relativism into leftist thought has ensured
that the left now stands paralyzed. By supporting the principles
of democracy, the left is actively paving the way towards
right-wing mob rule.
Things don’t have to be this way though. Exposing the right for
the hypocrites and fearmongers they are is not that difficult.
However, in order to succeed, a change in approach is needed on
part of the left. Relativism needs to be scrapped once and for
all. Once the left has established its values as absolute,
egalitarianism will fall as well, since now people can be judged
by their ability to live up to these standards. This is the one
fatal blow to any form of in-group-out-group-thinking, since
morality depends entirely on the individual person and is not
limited by ethnicity, gender or social status. Finally, the left
will no longer be constrained by the principles of democracy,
which has proven to be the right-wing’s loyal friend. With this
approach, victory is only a matter of time. This is what the
True Left is all about.[/quote]
HTML https://trueleftblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/what-is-the-true-left-and-why-is-it-needed/
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Comparison of Capitol Hill violence to the Middle East called ou
t as ‘racist’
By: guest5 Date: January 9, 2021, 1:06 pm
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This is a good point. As I was listening to a lot of the
commentary in regards to the Capitol Hill violence among the
False Left especially, I couldn't help but notice how many of
them referenced "the third world" and the like. Truly cringe
worthy. U.S. delusion as a society is obviously only a few
notches below the delusions of people like Trump themselves. It
goes to show, no matter how shitty and racist western or Jewish
society actually is, these types of people still believe they
are "exceptional" people and that their nations are likewise
"exceptional". Nothing could be further from the truth in
reality and anyone with some discernment and logic on their side
can clearly see this. Western insanity and delusion is
par-excellence and hitherto unknown to this world. These people
need serious psychological and spiritual help and they should be
stopped from reproducing themselves for the betterment of this
world and 80% of it's population who are non-western.
Comparison of Capitol Hill violence to the Middle East called
out as ‘racist’
[quote]The violent scenes in Capitol Hill were juxtaposed with
that of the events in the “Middle East and “third world
countries” by some US news anchors. And it’s being called out as
“racist and orientalist.”[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDSujAC-ifQ
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Re: Uniting Americans
By: guest5 Date: February 24, 2021, 7:51 pm
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Why Imperfect Girls Make Perfect Role Models
[quote]Katty Kay and Claire Shipman discuss their new column in
the New York Times on why imperfect girls make for perfect role
models.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ-Zr5o9Mfo
This is mainly about how social media twists young peoples,
especially girls, minds. Let's keep this in mind: the closer a
person is to Western culture and civilization the further away
they are from perfection....
None of the Western women on social media who these women in the
video claim exude unrealistic perfect lives are actually
perfect. It is the Western definition of "perfection" that is
wrong to begin with.
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Let's talk about whether America needs a bad guy....
By: guest55 Date: April 16, 2022, 9:24 pm
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Short answer, yes it does!
The fatal flaw in this type of thinking though is that it
automatically assumes all humans are capable of empathy when it
is proven that they are not! World peace will only be possible
when all the bloodlines who are incapable of empathy have been
ended! Nor is world peace possible as long as Western
civilization is alive!
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/leftist-vs-rightist-moral-circles/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
Let's talk about whether America needs a bad guy....
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasnv3yQzdU
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 3, 2022, 4:59 pm
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At last an attempt (albeit weak) to claim the term "America" for
the left:
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/31/real-america-blue-provincetown-maga-trump/
[quote]MAGA Republicans are out of touch with the real America
...
It is easy in such environs to imagine that you’re not in the
“real America.” In fact, a friend who lives, as I do, in New
York City — yet another Democratic bastion — made precisely that
observation in a half-joking manner. “I’m happy not to be in
America,” he told me, meaning, presumably, he was happy to be in
a place where drag queens are considered normal and Trumpkins
are not.
But you know what? Provincetown is the real America. So is
Martha’s Vineyard. These communities are undoubtedly on the left
and prone to excesses of political correctness that make for
easy punch lines. But, in many ways, they might be more
representative of 2022 America than the Rust Belt diners where
reporters love to take the pulse of Trumplandia.
There is an implicit assumption, shared by many Republicans and
Democrats, that “real” Americans are White, rural, conservative,
Christian and poorly educated. (“I love the poorly educated,”
Donald Trump said in 2016.) Ultra-MAGA Republicans assume that
their policy preferences — anti-immigration, anti-gun control,
anti-abortion, anti-“woke” — are the only legitimate views that
can be held by “real” Americans, and that anyone who disagrees
is a pointy-headed elitist or “globalist” who is out of touch
with reality.
Yet it is White, Christian, rural, conservative voters who are
now in the minority. Indeed, much of the reason that MAGA
Republicans sound so hysterical so much of the time is that they
know that the tides of economic and demographic change are
leaving them behind.
...
Sixty-seven million more Americans live in counties won by Joe
Biden than by Trump in 2020 — and the Biden counties produce 71
percent of U.S. gross domestic product.
...
The whole country might not be nearly as progressive as
Provincetown or Martha’s Vineyard, but those blue havens are
closer to an increasingly liberal mainstream than the MAGA
redoubts where pickup trucks sport “Let’s Go, Brandon!” bumper
stickers.[/quote]
I of course disagree with using population or GDP share as an
argument for who is American (but for the False Left this is
still an improvement over being ashamed to be American!). A much
better approach would be a historical one. America was a victim
of Western colonization. American independence meant loss of
territory by the Western colonial powers. The American Civil War
was a war against Confederates who felt closer to the Western
colonialists:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States#Culture
[quote]The basis for much of Southern culture derives from these
states being among the original Thirteen Colonies, and from much
of the population of the colonial South having ancestral links
to colonists who emigrated west. Southern manners and customs
reflect the relationship with England that was held by the early
population.[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_Southern_United_States
[quote]Folklorists in the 1920s and later argued that because of
the region's isolation, Appalachian language patterns more
closely mirrored Elizabethan English than other accents in the
United States.[38]
...
There are several other unique linguistic enclaves in the
American South. Among them is that of Tangier Island, Virginia,
as well as the Outer Banks North Carolina, which some scholars
claim preserves a unique English dialect from the colonial
period.
[/quote]
Therefore to be American means to be anti-Western. The more
hostile to Western civilization you are, the more American you
are. This is the narrative that mainstream leftists need to pick
up.
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/counterculture-and-western-civilisation/msg10112/#msg10112<br
/>(and subsequent posts)
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Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 11, 2022, 5:39 pm
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What we have been saying:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-call-themselves-real-patriots-085055957.html
[quote]Democrats Should Call Themselves What They Are: The Real
Patriots[/quote]
Or better still: American nationalists.
[quote]Whether we like to admit it or not, branding has an
oversized influence on how we see the world and what products we
decide to bring into our homes.
...
Democrats have ceded way too much ground to Republicans on value
phrases that appeal to voters—and that includes everything from
religion to “patriotism.”
However, the MAGA movement presents Democrats with a golden
opportunity to reclaim the word and the values of patriotism.
After all, Republicans under the twisted ideology of Trump and
MAGA have contorted themselves into a party that is truly
unrecognizable from the Reagan era—presided over by the GOP’s
previous Dear Leader. But Republicans have moved from hailing
the flag and our troops, to weaponizing it to brutalize law
enforcement while calling for the hanging of the vice
president—one of the most conservative politicians in America.
They went from “Blue Lives Matter” to calling the FBI crooked
and threatening to defund them. They went from “Lincoln freed
the slaves” to hailing a twice-impeached, racist, misogynist
crook as their new savior. And now, scores of candidates in the
“Law and Order” party are threatening to not accept election
results (if they lose)
...
As Republicans continue to sow distrust in our institutions—and
the idea of America itself—Democrats remain on their heels,
grappling for messaging that conveys who they are and what they
stand for. This listless foot-dragging isn’t just infuriating—at
this late date, it’s dangerous.
True patriotism requires more than heading to an Old Navy to
grab an American flag T-shirt and matching pants. True
patriotism is fighting for the ideals that this country was
founded on, and is still trying desperately to live up to.
The Jan. 6 Committee, with its dogged, fact-based investigation
and presentation, is the best example of virtuous American
patriotism I’ve seen—outside of a battlefield—in ages.
And yet, this is not how Democrats have been selling this fight
to the American people.
...
As Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has stated, the MAGA Republicans
believe America to be a “Christian nation,” and they define the
American identity as one built on “uniquely Anglo-Saxon
political traditions,” as a draft document from Greene’s America
First caucus put it in 2021. (Anglo-Saxon, of course, being a
euphemism for “white.”)
Well, for a country whose demographics are shifting rapidly away
from whiteness this new moniker should be the siren call to
Americans and the Democratic Party to wake up and reclaim our
true American values formulated around “we the people,” and make
it clear that we’ll “fight like hell” to defend our beloved
country
...
Branding matters. Messaging matters. It’s the difference between
choosing one shirt over the other and one party over the other.
But right now, the choice we make this November isn’t just
between dueling parties—it’s a fight for what it means to be an
American.
MAGA Republicans' idea of “patriotism” includes white
supremacists in tactical gear standing at the ready prepared to
brutalize our fellow Americans into submission. This is not
hyperbolic. Just look at Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes,
who is currently on trial for sedition over his group’s
terroristic actions on Jan. 6.
Audre Lorde—who branded herself as a Black, lesbian, mother,
warrior, and poet—once said that if people don’t define
themselves for themselves they will be crushed into others
fantasies of who they are and be eaten alive.
Going into an election that very well could be the last free and
fair contest of our lives, Democrats’ message should be clear:
“We are the real patriots, fighting for your right to choose, to
love, to exist, to live free—join us.”[/quote]
To learn more about how to be American:
HTML https://authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/p/i-am-proud-to-call-myself-american.html
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Bono: America Doesn't Yet Exist
By: guest78 Date: November 5, 2022, 12:00 am
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Bono: America Doesn't Yet Exist
[quote]Stephen's interview with Bono continues with a
fascinating conversation about the U2 frontman's opinion of the
United States and his truly beautiful vision of America's
future. Stick around for a performance from Bono, and check out
his book, "Surrender," available everywhere now. #Colbert
#Surrender #Bono #U2[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F33zbJ7FOvY
Bono brings up Lincoln as well, as a bonus. An Irish person
delivering this message to Americans is surely welcome too!
Comment:
[quote]As long as America accepts Western Culture\Western
Civilization it cannot be truly American. Lest we forget America
fought a war of independence against the (colonial) British
Empire and won! True American culture can never be synonymous
with Western culture and should always be opposed to it,
especially colonialism![/quote]
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Re: Views towards America
By: rp Date: March 12, 2023, 1:15 pm
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How the US Army Became More Spartan, Less Athenian - TIME
HTML https://time.com/5681715/citizen-soldiers-history/
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