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My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 2, 2022, 8:54 pm
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Another new member of this forum which result from my
discussion. Named "Leaf on the Wind". He is an anarchism try to
agree with our worldview. After banned from more than 4 Discord
group servers because of discussions.
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Re: My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 3, 2022, 12:00 pm
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@90sRetroFan
Another report from doing discussion with the Canadian
"leftist". See this photographed Discord group's conversation.
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Photographed on Wednesday, 3th August 2022, 23 : 14 Jakarta Time
Explanation 1 :
She is the British people. She wanted to integrate the former
British colonial territory into multi-ethnic imperial...
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Photographed on Wednesday, 3th August 2022, 23 : 15 Jakarta Time
Explanation 2 :
I will transcript the conversation writings. Because it's poorly
photographed :
[quote]Discord account named "Ze" is the British girl. I'm
"abdulmahmud"
Ze : "Well I think imperialism is reasonable but maybe more like
optional imperialism
Like we're gonna use this land and give you this technology and
you can take it if you want. But as long as you don't bother us
we won't bother you.
abdulmahmud : "What you mean "bothering'? (I begin to ask what
is her motive of annexation of the former British colonial
territory)
Ze : "Like... killing settlers, destroying stuff, I'd want to
co-exist especially if they not using the land directly" (From
her first answer, I think that she want annexation with the
already settled European "settlers" live separately from the
natives on the natives's territories)
abdulmahmud : "The settlers justified to be killed if they are
behave like racial separatist like Jared Taylor's want...
The settler's stuff justified to be destroyed if they behave
like racist and separatist" (I herd her to showing her real
motives with saying like that)
Ze : "if they oppress the native peoples then the natives are
right to respond with violence yes" (Surprisingly, she allowed
the native's attack to the "European British "settlers" if they
behave discriminating racial separatist to the natives even
though her wish is to integrate and annexed the former British
colonial territory)
abdulmachmud : "If the natives want to live side by side with
the "settlers" but the "settlers" reject. Then the "settlers"
justified to be persecuted, because they doing anything led to
racial separatism."
(I herd her with said anything like that to made she explain
more deep about how is her meaning of "integrate" and
"annexing". With saying if the natives want to live side by side
with the "British European "settlers"", but they reject, they
deserved to be persecuted because behave anything led to racial
separatist and discrimination)
Ze : "yes" (He say that such behaviour can be allowed to be
implemented to the natives, to persecuted the separatist
"settlers")[/quote]
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Photographed on Wednesday, 3th August 2022, 23 : 15 Jakarta Time
Explanation 3 :
She agree to attack with ridiculing to the ideas about
capitalism and colonialism
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Photographed on Wednesday, 3th August 2022, 23 : 15 Jakarta Time
Explanation 4 :
I explained about the poll news on what "Canadians" think on
treating the natives. Which many of the responder say that "too
much to apologize and give reparations to them". She explained
that the problems are on the polling system which not surveying
the people who are really affected, but only to "random
"whites"". I think she doing something folkism
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Photographed on Thursday, 4th August 2022, 00 : 13 Jakarta Time
Explanation 4 :
She even agree with censorship to a group of people who follow
the rightist ideas
Her Discord profile :
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Photographed on Wednesday, 3th August 2022, 23 : 15 Jakarta Time
Any advice?
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Re: My Reports
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 3, 2022, 5:55 pm
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Leaf on the Wind hasn't posted anything yet so I have nothing on
which to form an opinion.
Ze appears to be a typical progressive.
[quote]She is the British people. She wanted to integrate the
former British colonial territory into multi-ethnic
imperial...[/quote]
If this had happened back then, it would have been much easier
for climate refugees today.
Of course it is too late for this now. But at least she should
agree that Britain, Canada, Australia, etc. have a duty to
accept as many climate refugees from India, Nigeria, etc. as
want to migrate, in order to emulate the folkish empire that she
proposed.
[quote]Like we're gonna use this land and give you this
technology and you can take it if you want.[/quote]
[quote]especially if they not using the land directly[/quote]
This is concerning. She seems to think that higher productivity
is never a negative.
To us, it is clear that Britain starting the Industrial
Revolution and then accepting climate refugees is better than
Britain starting the Industrial Revolution and then not
accepting climate refugees, but not as good as Britain never
starting the Industrial Revolution in the first place.
"She even agree with censorship to a group of people who follow
the rightist ideas"
I disagree. Rightist arguments should be exhibited in public.
Only doing so shows we are not threatened by them. We are the
only leftist forum that I know of which proactively collects
enemy articles and uses them against the enemy:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/
This is the source of the True Left's ideological strength. In
contrast, False Left forums never address actual rightist
arguments. This is why False Leftism will never defeat rightism.
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[quote]professional human[/quote]
Might suggest anthropocentrism. Find out her views towards
non-humans.
[quote]wanter of a transgalactic empire[/quote]
See if you can change her mind.
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Re: My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 3, 2022, 8:28 pm
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@90sRetroFan
She still accept the Westernization and space exploration. She
consider the humans will have zero sense if they only live on
earth. And she consider the space exploration needed for the
sake fulfill the humans's need of resources which from it humans
can live in luxury. So, she still economically Marxism while her
sociological worldview is opposition to racialism.
And, she acknowledge that Israel is a Zionist ethnostate
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Re: My Reports
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 3, 2022, 9:09 pm
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"She still accept the Westernization and space exploration. She
consider the humans will have zero sense if they only live on
earth. And she consider the space exploration needed for the
sake fulfill the humans's need of resources which from it humans
can live in luxury. So, she still economically Marxism while her
sociological worldview is opposition to racialism."
A standard False Leftist, basically.
She said:
[quote]as long as you don't bother us we won't bother
you.[/quote]
so does she care that non-Western civilizations are being
bothered with the environmental impact of Western civilization?
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/
[quote]"if they oppress the native peoples then the natives are
right to respond with violence yes"[/quote]
Is forcing them to live in the environmental conditions
consequent to Western civilization not a form of oppression? If
so, then she should agree that retaliatory violence against
Western civilization is justified.
"she acknowledge that Israel is a Zionist ethnostate"
So does she acknowledge that Zionism comes from Judaism, and
hence that Judaism is a racist religion? Yet progressivism also
comes from Judaism:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg11366/#msg11366
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Re: My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 4, 2022, 10:41 am
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@90sRetroFan
This is her ideas. See this photographed Discord conversation.
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Photographed on Thursday, 4th August 2022, 11 : 04 Jakarta Time
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Photographed on Thursday, 4th August 2022, 22 : 34 Jakarta Time
I'm already explained the reasons of her flaws of Westernization
program. But she's not respond me anymore. It coincide with me
got banned from the Liberal Discord political server which
there's her on it (Named DylanEDU's Youtube Community). Because
I'm explained the racism of Israeli people and why they need to
be destroyed.
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Re: My Reports
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 4, 2022, 3:30 pm
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I don't know why you say you are not forcing her to not have a
child. Those like her need to be prohibited from reproducing.
Strictly speaking, I don't think she is forcing you to live
outside Earth. She would probably be fine if you continued to
live on Earth while she settles outer space. Settlement of outer
space does not require everyone to do it simultaneously in order
for it to succeed. Refer to:
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[quote]In general, let X be an idea. If X is something that can
succeed only if everyone practices it, invasion to impose X is
justified. Whereas if X is something that can succeed with
merely a fraction of people practicing it, invasion to spread X
is unjustified (but invasion of practitioners by
non-practitioners to eradicate X is justified!).[/quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-folkish-imperialism/msg14823/#msg14823
[quote]Just living in a superior way ourselves is doomed to fail
when others are not also living the same way. We must crush the
inferior first, and only afterwards get back to living in the
superior way.[/quote]
Settlement of outer space definitely falls into the latter
category, which is why it would be justified for non-spacefaring
countries to invade spacefaring countries for the sake of
eradicating spacefaring.
Also, you need to argue against Yahwism itself:
[quote]We could be the only sentient life in the
universe.[/quote]
She obviously does not consider all the non-humans on Earth to
be sentient.
[quote]It is our duty to spread it.[/quote]
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Re: My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 4, 2022, 6:54 pm
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@90sRetroFan
[quote]I don't know why you say you are not forcing her to not
have a child. Those like her need to be prohibited from
reproducing.[/quote]
I think you consider the leftist allowed to reproduce before...
Because they are less to follow oppressive ideologies rather
than the right...
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Re: My Reports
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 4, 2022, 7:45 pm
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Also, we should more often call out the False Left fascination
with living in luxury.
[quote]and everyone can live in luxury[/quote]
This seems to be a key point of divergence between False
Leftists and True Leftists: we despise luxury in itself, whereas
they only despise luxury not being evenly distributed.
In my experience, rightists are actually more likely than False
Leftists to be suspicious of luxury, although their suspicion is
based on even worse values (they most commonly claim that luxury
leads to decreased masculinity.....). Rightists also conflate
luxury with absence of danger, so for example they might despise
more passive forms of luxury while admiring participation in
activities such as extreme sports (despite the latter being in
fact often just as or even more costly and/or wasteful when all
the calculations are done).
All this corresponds almost perfectly with somatotype
personalities:
Rightist = mesomorph
False Leftist = endomorph
True Leftist = ectomorph
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Re: My Reports
By: guest30 Date: August 4, 2022, 9:53 pm
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@90sRetroFan
Beware the communist red terror account, the name is :
1. Pickaxe and Rifle (Female communist unterfrau)
2. Students for Democracy ML (Untermenschen)
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