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Genghis Khan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 29, 2020, 11:28 pm
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The increasing Turan-worship around the internet is getting
annoying:
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height=992]
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Disgust is the correct reaction to Turanian habits.
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Re: Re: Turanian diffusion
By: guest5 Date: August 30, 2020, 2:27 pm
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@90sRetroFan:
Are you aware that there is a theory that Khan's Golden Horde
used catapults to fling diseased dead bodies into cities they
were laying siege to, including the diseased bodies of cattle?
That would certainly be inline with the Turanian barbaric ethos
too right?
Biological Warfare at the 1346 Siege of Caffa
[quote]
immensity of the disaster brought about by the disease, and
realizing that they had no hope of escape, lost interest in the
siege. But they ordered corpses to be placed in catapults1 and
lobbed into the city in the hope that the intolerable stench
would kill everyone inside.2 What seemed like mountains of dead
were thrown into the city, and the Christians could not hide or
flee or escape from them, although they dumped as many of the
bodies as they could in the sea. And soon the rotting corpses
tainted the air and poisoned the water supply, and the stench
was so overwhelming that hardly one in several thousand was in a
position to flee the remains of the Tartar army. Moreover one
infected man could carry the poison to others, and infect people
and places with the disease by look alone. No one knew, or could
discover, a means of defense.
“Thus almost everyone who had been in the East, or in the
regions to the south and north, fell victim to sudden death
after contracting this pestilential disease, as if struck by a
lethal arrow which raised a tumor on their bodies. The scale of
the mortality and the form which it took persuaded those who
lived, weeping and lamenting, through the bitter events of 1346
to 1348—the Chinese, Indians, Persians, Medes, Kurds, Armenians,
Cilicians, Georgians, Mesopotamians, Nubians, Ethiopians, Turks,
Egyptians, Arabs, Saracens and Greeks (for almost all the East
has been affected)—that the last judgement had come.
“…As it happened, among those who escaped from Caffa by boat
were a few sailors who had been infected with the poisonous
disease. Some boats were bound for Genoa, others went to Venice
and to other Christian areas. When the sailors reached these
places and mixed with the people there, it was as if they had
brought evil spirits with them: every city, every settlement,
every place was poisoned by the contagious pestilence, and their
inhabitants, both men and women, died suddenly. And when one
person had contracted the illness, he poisoned his whole family
even as he fell and died, so that those preparing to bury his
body were seized by death in the same way. Thus death entered
through the windows, and as cities and towns were depopulated
their inhabitants mourned their dead neighbours.” (Reproduced
with permission from Horrox, pp. 16–20 [4])
The account closes with an extended description of the plague in
Piacenza, and a reprise of the apocalyptic vision with which it
begins.[/quote]
HTML https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/8/9/01-0536_article
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Re: Re: Turanian diffusion
By: Prite Date: August 31, 2020, 11:01 am
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I read that in 1313, the Khan of Western Half (White Horde)
became a Muslim and also his successors. The question is are
they true followers?
Siege of Caffa happened under his rule:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jani_Beg
His portrait:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Wp42Yqn/JaniBeg.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/rfRw1Tk
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 31, 2020, 1:22 pm
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[member=5]NuminousSun[/member]
"Are you aware that there is a theory that Khan's Golden Horde
used catapults to fling diseased dead bodies into cities they
were laying siege to, including the diseased bodies of cattle?"
Yes, though this tactic was also used by others during the same
period:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_biological_warfare#Middle_Ages
[quote]At the siege of Thun-l'Évêque in 1340, during the Hundred
Years' War, the attackers catapulted decomposing animals into
the besieged area.[12][/quote]
and even later:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_biological_warfare#17th_and_18th_century
[quote]The last known incident of using plague corpses for
biological warfare occurred in 1710, when Russian forces
attacked the Swedes by flinging plague-infected corpses over the
city walls of Reval (Tallinn).[14] [/quote]
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: Prite Date: September 1, 2020, 9:38 am
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@90sRetroFan, @NumiousSun
Could Golden Horde be a part that corrupted Islam and had others
see Islamists as invaders?
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 1, 2020, 1:11 pm
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[quote]Could Golden Horde be a part that corrupted Islam and had
others see Islamists as invaders?[/quote]
Mohammed's teachings were already corrupted by the time the
Uthmanic Koran was written centuries before the Golden Horde.
But if you mean whether or not the Golden Horde contributed to
further corruption, this would have to be answered case-by-case
for individual powerful converts. But I would consider it likely
that the infusion of Mongol bloodlines into Islamic societies
would have increased their proportion of Turanian blood, and
this could have facilitated subsequent popularization of bad
habits in Islamic societies. Yet similar infusion of Mongol
bloodlines would have occurred also in non-Islamic societies
invaded by the Golden Horde, therefore I see no initial reason
to assume that Islamic societies were more affected than others.
A good way to test the theory would be to compare Islamic
societies in places that the Golden Horde never reached with
Islamic societies in places invaded by the Golden Horde, as well
as the corresponding non-Islamic societies.
The perception of Islamists as invaders is mostly due to the
Carolingian cycle:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_of_France
[quote]Originally, the Matter of France contained tales of war
and martial valour, being focused on the conflict between the
Franks and Saracens or Moors during the period of Charles Martel
and Charlemagne. The Chanson de Roland, for example, is about
the Battle of Roncevaux Pass during the Moorish invasion of
southern France.[/quote]
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: guest5 Date: October 16, 2020, 1:17 pm
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China insists Genghis Khan exhibit not use words 'Genghis Khan'
[quote]Museum in Nantes pulls show after intervention by
Beijing, which comes as Communist party hardens discrimination
against ethnic Mongols[/quote]
[quote]A French museum has postponed an exhibit about the Mongol
emperor Genghis Khan citing interference by the Chinese
government, which it accuses of trying to rewrite history.
The Château des ducs de Bretagne history museum in the western
city of Nantes said it was putting the show about the fearsome
13th century leader on hold for over three years.
The museum’s director, Bertrand Guillet, said: “We made the
decision to stop this production in the name of the human,
scientific and ethical values that we defend.”
Inner Mongolia protests at China's plans to bring in
Mandarin-only lessons
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It said the Chinese authorities demanded that certain words,
including “Genghis Khan,” “Empire” and “Mongol” be taken out of
the show. Subsequently they asked for power over exhibition
brochures, legends and maps.
The spat comes as the Chinese government has hardened its
discrimination against ethnic Mongols, many of whom live in the
northern province of Inner Mongolia.
The exhibit was planned in collaboration with the Inner Mongolia
Museum in Hohhot, China. But tensions arose, the Nantes museum
said, when the Chinese Bureau of Cultural Heritage pressured the
museum for changes to the original plan, “including notably
elements of biased rewriting of Mongol culture in favour of a
new national narrative”.
The museum branded it “censorship” and said it underlined a
“hardening … of the position of the Chinese government against
the Mongolian minority”.
The Chinese consulate in Paris did not immediately return calls
for comment.[/quote]
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/14/china-insists-genghis-khan-exhibit-not-use-words-genghis-khan
Can you really discriminate against racists though? Aren't
racists initiators of discrimination?
Turanian blood memory in action:
Rampant racism a growing problem in Mongolia
[quote]Racism is becoming ever more common in Mongolia, where
extreme, right-wing nationalist groups target especially Chinese
citizens. They are not afraid of resorting to violence.[/quote]
HTML https://www.dw.com/en/rampant-racism-a-growing-problem-in-mongolia/a-15888287
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 12, 2020, 2:44 pm
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HTML https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/11/10/report-xi-jinping-ordering-erasure-of-genghis-khan-from-chinese-history/
[quote]“During the past month, fourteen stone tablets
summarizing the life story of Genghis Khan and his achievements
were painted over or destroyed in Genghis Khan Square in the
Hailar district of Hulun Buir prefecture-level city, in Inner
Mongolia. Protests of the local population were ignored,” Bitter
Winter revealed on November 7.
“In a middle school in Hexigten Banner under the jurisdiction of
the prefecture-level city of Chifen, also in Inner Mongolia,
portraits of Genghis Khan and slogans promoting Mongolian
culture have been replaced[/quote]
Good work, but is Xi willing to do the same with (the far more
common) material all over China promoting Western civilization?
(Of course he is not.) If not, why not? (Answer: Eurocentrism.)
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: rp Date: November 13, 2020, 11:25 am
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Well, at least it's better than nothing. Turanians such as
Richard Spencer (Gentile) exalt Genghis Khan as a "great
conqueror".
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Re: Genghis Khan
By: guest5 Date: February 21, 2021, 2:48 pm
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Mongol Army: How it All Started
[quote]The Kings and Generals animated historical documentary
series on the Mongol History continues with a video on the
evolution of the Mongol armies, showing how the steppe horsemen
bands turned into the most fearsome army in the world by Genghis
khan and would create the largest empire until up to that
point.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvJKJgESP4
Mongols Season 1 Full - from Genghis to Kublai
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzatw32j-i4
Subutai - Genghis's Greatest General DOCUMENTARY
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS9MgymLtxQ
How did the Mongols Conquer Strongholds and Cities?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2khuXqoeE
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