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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 12, 2022, 1:35 am
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HTML https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/san-diego-teacher-defines-fascist-to-class-as-whites-heterosexuals-and-christians
[quote]EXCLUSIVE — A teacher from Madison High School in San
Diego claimed fascists are synonymous with the "modern-day
Republican Party" and "white, Christian, heterosexuals,"
according to a student at the school.
...
The student took a picture during the class that shows how the
teacher defined "fascist." On the classroom's white dry-erase
board, the teacher wrote the word "fascist," underlined it, and
listed the words: Trump, heterosexual, white, Christian, and
hatred of foreigners, immigrants, and minorities, among
others.[/quote]
In reality:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces#Origin_and_symbolism
[quote]The symbolism of the fasces suggests strength through
unity (see Unity makes strength); a single rod is easily broken,
while the bundle is very difficult to break.[/quote]
Clinton's 2016 campaign slogan was the fascist slogan:
[img width=1280
height=853]
HTML https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2019_07/2750901/190212-hillary-clinton-2016-stronger-together-ew-136p.jpg[/img]
The more minorities included, the more rods forming the bundle,
meaning the stronger the fasces! The more immigrants, the more
extra rods joining the bundle, meaning the stronger the fasces!
(Immigrants are also emigrants, which means the bundles of other
countries end up with fewer rods at the same time as your bundle
ends up with more rods, hence fascism should prize immigrants
doubly!) And "heterosexual"? Does this 'teacher' know anything
at all?!
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome
[quote]Homosexuality in ancient Rome often differs markedly from
the contemporary West. Latin lacks words that would precisely
translate "homosexual" and "heterosexual".[1]
...
Love or desire between males is a very frequent theme in Roman
literature. In the estimation of a modern scholar, Amy Richlin,
out of the poems preserved to this day, those addressed by men
to boys are as common as those addressed to women.[20]
...
Homoerotic themes occur throughout the works of poets writing
during the reign of Augustus, including elegies by Tibullus[36]
and Propertius,[37] several Eclogues of Vergil, especially the
second, and some poems by Horace. In the Aeneid, Vergil – who,
according to a biography written by Suetonius, had a marked
sexual preference for boys[38][39] – draws on the Greek
tradition of pederasty in a military setting by portraying the
love between Nisus and Euryalus,[40] whose military valor marks
them as solidly Roman men (viri).[41] Vergil describes their
love as pius, linking it to the supreme virtue of pietas as
possessed by the hero Aeneas himself, and endorsing it as
"honorable, dignified and connected to central Roman
values".[42]
...
When whole objects rather than mere fragments are unearthed,
homoerotic scenes are usually found to share space with pictures
of opposite-sex couples, which can be interpreted to mean that
heterosexuality and homosexuality (or male homosexuality, in any
case) are of equal value.[52][54]
...
The treatment given to the subject in such vessels is idealized
and romantic, similar to that dispensed to heterosexuality. The
artist's emphasis, regardless of the sex of the couple being
depicted, lies in the mutual affection between the partners and
the beauty of their bodies.[56][/quote]
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 27, 2022, 9:35 pm
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Stop comparing Meloni to Mussolini!
Meloni:
HTML https://barenakedislam.com/2022/09/27/italys-newly-elected-prime-minister-on-islam-muslims/
[quote]STOP mass Muslim illegal immigration immediately. Build
walls. Enforce a naval blockade against migrant boats from
Africa. And don’t grant automatic citizenship to Muslim migrants
who are already here, as proposed by the last administration.
Make Islamic fundamentalism and the practice of sharia a federal
crime. Shut down mosques.[/quote]
Mussolini:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Islam_(Mussolini)
[quote]In 1934, after the creation of Italian Libya, Mussolini
adopted a policy for encouraging comparisons with Islam, calling
the local population "Italian Muslims of the fourth shore of
Italy", building or restoring mosques and Quranic schools,
preparing service facilities for the pilgrims going to Mecca and
even making a High School of Islamic Culture in Tripoli.
...
In order to earn the favour of the Arabs and to seal himself the
alliance, Mussolini, although a signatory of the Lateran Treaty
with the Holy See, decided to have bestowed on him the title of
Protector of Islam.[3]
...
Mussolini reaffirmed his closeness to the Muslim population,
guaranteeing "peace, justice, wellness and respect for the laws
of the Prophet."[5][/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/giorgia-meloni/msg15053/#msg15053
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/giorgia-meloni/msg15074/#msg15074
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 27, 2022, 5:49 pm
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Again, Meloni is demonstrably not a fascist:
HTML https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/10/giorgia-meloni-no-more-covid-shutdowns/
Contrast:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg9608/#msg9608
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg9864/#msg9864
Stop calling her what she is not! It just causes confusion!
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: rp Date: November 15, 2022, 10:42 pm
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[size=12pt]How is Donald Trump different from Hitler?
HTML https://www.quora.com/How-is-Donald-Trump-different-from-Hitler
HTML https://www.quora.com/How-is-Donald-Trump-different-from-Hitler/answer/Vik-Rampersad?ch=15&oid=24526319&share=89acb57c&target_type=answer
[Quote]
In many ways.
Hitler was a decorated war veteran who felt betrayed by the
armistice and subsequent occupation and crushing of Germany
(even though he was Austrian).
[B]Trum never served, iand his country has never been occupied.
Hitler lived through the violent upheavals in Germany post WWI
when the complete breakdown of law and order occurred and then
the crushing poverty imposed by the allies (notably France). He
blamed the Jewish banking interests for the economic turmoil
that engulfed Germany and tapped into the pan European anti
Semitism that was present to give a visible target of who was
responsible for all the woes plaguing Germany
Trump lived through the Sept 11 attack. He inherited his wealth
and made and lost several fortunes over his career. In effect he
was "too big to fail" so the banks extended him credit and to
his favour he always managed to come out on top. He uses the
inherent racism in American society to attack Hispanics and more
recently Moslems as those responsible for dragging down America.
Hitler was an accomplished orator who could speak (literally)
for hours while holding his audience spellbound and enthralled
Trump is a loud and obnoxious speaker who loses his audience
after maybe 20 minutes
Hitler was not shy about using force (Brownshirts) against his
opponents and led an attempt to overthrow the government (Beer
hall Pustch)
Trump has not used force against his opponents and has no
private army
Hitler surrounded himself with people who were seen as
responsible, heros and intelligent (e.g. Goering, Speer) He was
virulently anti communist and extremely patriotic
Trump is an avowed capitalist and hence anti anything that
smacks of communism or socialism. He is very anti union but
contradictorily supports American workers trying to preserve
their jobs
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: rp Date: November 15, 2022, 11:03 pm
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Another anti-Hitlerist rebukes the Hitler Trump comparison:
[B][size=14pt]Is Donald Trump more intelligent today than Adolf
Hitler used to be? [/Size][/B]
HTML https://www.quora.com/Is-Donald-Trump-more-intelligent-today-than-Adolf-Hitler-used-to-be/answer/Susanna-Viljanen?ch=15&oid=324901542&share=dbcd7ce2&target_type=answer
[Quote]
No way.
Trump is no idiot - I estimate his IQ being 115–120, he has a
university degree and he was not a total failure as a
businessman - but he is no genius either. He is incredibly
narcissistic - like South Park Eric Cartman grown old - which
distorts the scene here.
But Trump is no genius either. He does not produce coherent
text, he does not have any kind of intuition, he does not have
any kind of psychologic eye and he cannot read his opponents. He
does not know what he is up to nor against to. He does not care
of his nation nor his country. He cares only of himself.
The only way such man in a leadership position can lead is by
bullying his subordinates - which he actually did. “You’re
fired” could actually be his slogan. He is simply so
unpredictable that his opponents have hard time figuring out
what he is up to next, and whether it is sheer idiocy, mere
stupidity - or a genius stroke.
Hitler was evil but he wasn’t corrupt. He wouldn’t like being
compared to someone who is corrupt - like Donald Trump.
Moreover, Trump lived all his presidency on the verge of getting
ousted - there were always a lot of more intelligent and more
ambitious Republicans ready to backstab him, if for nothing
else, to save the Grand Old Party from a total disaster.
Compared to Trump, my estimation is that Hitler had at least one
standard deviation higher IQ. Hitler was a hallmark of a
self-made man. He literally rose from the gutters to leadership
of a superpower. He was an autodidact, he had incredibly wide
general knowledge and he impressed everyone around him. He
worked both hard and smart, he knew his opponents thoroughly, he
read the newspapers thoroughly, he had a library of some 3,000
books and he was a decorated war veteran. And men like Göring,
Himmler, Heydrich and Bormann considered him a genius. After the
Night of the Long Knives, he did not need to resort to physical
or social violence one single time.
But having high IQ does not make anyone a good human being nor
it does not make him dignified, noble or decent. It is only the
great enabler - both in good and in evil. Hitler was no moron -
he was a crackpot. That is not what Trump is, fortunately. Trump
is merely a jerk.
TL;DR: Hitler was Mensa stuff, but so was Ted Bundy. Trump
isn’t.
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Republican Federal Judge Compares Trump to Nazis in January 6 Se
ntencing
By: guest78 Date: November 21, 2022, 8:20 pm
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Republican Federal Judge Compares Trump to Nazis in January 6
Sentencing
[quote]A DC Federal Judge Reggie Walton sentenced January 6
Insurrectionist Dustin Thompson to 3 years in prison and had
powerful words condemning Trump in his sentencing order.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp1kn0gJBTI
Nothing quite says 'I'm an ignorant fool' like comparing Trump
to National Socialists. After the failed Beer Hall Putsch, were
Hitler lead from the front like a true leader and
soldier—walking head-on into a hail of bullets in an attempt to
pull it off— Hitler spent 5 years in prison himself. Trump has
yet to even be convicted of a crime related to his failed coup
attempt, whilst his supporters take on prison sentences for
him...
(Have not listened to this video or read what the Federal Judge
actually said).
Can anyone actually imagine Trump boldly walking into a hail of
bullets, leading from the front?
HTML https://war-documentary.inf
o/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nazi-putsch-annual-1.jpg
Unlike Trump, Hitler was a leftist, a true leader, and a real
soldier!!! This is why people actually followed Hitler!
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: rp Date: December 3, 2022, 3:10 pm
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Trump praises Xi, "President for life! Sounds like a good idea!"
HTML https://youtu.be/09ZCJnf-qMw
Does this seem to indicate Trump has autocratic tendencies,
given that he is willing to get rid of elections?
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: guest90 Date: December 3, 2022, 4:21 pm
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As Retro has explained before, by protesting the results of the
election Trump revealed he is a democrat, albeit a dishonest
one. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have cared about the election
results, and would’ve declared himself the rightful leader with
or without the demos support. Protesting the results showed he
only feels legitimised as a leader if the demos support him,
while a true autocrat wouldn’t care what the demos wanted and
would feel legitimised based on their character and ability. If
Trump was an autocrat, he would’ve declared himself president
for life when he had the chance, but he didn’t, which shows us
he had no intention to and was just trying to encourage his
supporters.
That isn’t to say, however, that there aren’t rightists who
would use autocracy to get what they wanted, but that’s only
until they exterminate us leftists. Traditionalists argue that
women and non-whites should have never been given the right to
vote; this tells us that they don’t have a problem with
democracy itself, only with suffrage. Because democracy is the
tyranny of the mob, and that tyranny is harder to enact when the
people you want to tyrannise can vote against your tyranny.
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 14, 2022, 8:30 pm
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Previously:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg15851/#msg15851
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/msg16208/#msg16208
Now:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/italys-meloni-honours-jewish-journalists-163926408.html
[quote]ROME (Reuters) - Italy's hard-right Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni on Tuesday pledged to fight "every kind of
discrimination and anti-Semitism" as she unveiled a plaque for
35 Jewish journalists persecuted under fascist-era racial laws.
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In her maiden speech to parliament in October, Meloni said she
has "never felt any sympathy for regimes, fascism included," and
that Italy's anti-Semitic racial laws of 1938 had been "the
lowest point of Italian history, a shame that will taint our
people forever."
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Those journalists honoured were barred from doing their job
under fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.[/quote]
Are False Leftists paying attention?
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
By: rp Date: March 15, 2023, 10:29 pm
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Example of Fascism in movies:
HTML https://youtu.be/Y7KD9CM_PjM
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