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#Post#: 14782--------------------------------------------------
Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 19, 2022, 9:57 pm
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See this post content below :
Source :
HTML https://historia.id/politik/articles/istilah-bersiap-yang-problematik-vogKK/page/4
On Nusantara Language :
--- Quote ---
> "Dalam memoarnya, Elien juga mengenang peristiwa kekerasan
yang menimpa orang-orang Belanda yang baru saja bebas dari kamp
tahanan Jepang. Mereka menjadi sasaran kemarahan orang-orang
Indonesia yang dibakar semangat kemerdekaan. Orang Belanda yang
mengalami masa-masa tersebut di Indonesia menyebutnya sebagai
periode "bersiap". Sebuah zaman saat orang Indonesia menjadi
kalap dan akan menyerang warga kulit putih, Indo, Tionghoa,
Ambon atau siapa pun yang mereka nilai sebagai kolaborator
kolonial. Benarkah demikian?
>
> ...
>
> Di Banten, pergolakan dimulai lebih awal. Pada 16 Agustus
1945, sehari sebelum Proklamasi kemerdekaan Indonesia, sejumlah
rakyat Banten di Cinangka, mengepung rumah camat Cinangka,
Tubagus Mohamad Arsad. Mereka menuntut Arsad membagikan beras
kepada rakyat. Arsad yang menolak keinginan tersebut melarikan
diri dari rumahnya yang kemudian dijarah oleh rakyat yang lapar.
Tak lama kemudian Arsad kembali bersama wedana Raden Sukrawadi
disertai dua polisi untuk memadamkan kerusuhan. Nasib malang tak
dapat ditolak, Arsad dan Sukrawadi tewas di tangan warganya.
>
> ...
>
> Pada era revolusi, sejumlah warga Cina mengalami kekerasan.
Mereka dipersepsi sebagai antek Belanda, pemuja keuntungan
ekonomi yang akan bergantung kepada rezim manapun yang sedang
berkuasa. Praduga ini menjadi alasan mengapa banyak warga Cina
di Indonesia terbunuh semasa revolusi. Padahal ada begitu banyak
tokoh Cina yang justru jadi garda terdepan membela kemerdekaan
Indonesia."
>
> ...
--- End Quote ---
On English Colonial Language :
--- Quote ---
> In his memoirs, Elien also recalls the violence that befell
the Dutch who had just been released from the Japanese detention
camp. They became the target of the anger of the Indonesians who
were fueled by the spirit of independence. The Dutch who
experienced this period in Indonesia called it the "prepared"
period. An era when Indonesians went crazy and would attack
whites, Indos, Chinese, Ambonese or whoever they saw as colonial
collaborators. Is that right?
>
> ...
>
> In Banten, the upheaval started early. On August 16, 1945, the
day before the proclamation of Indonesian independence, a number
of Banten people in Cinangka surrounded the house of the
sub-district head of Cinangka, Tubagus Mohamad Arsad. They
demanded Arsad distribute rice to the people. Arsad, who refused
this wish, fled from his house which was then looted by the
hungry people. Not long after, Arsad returned with the wedana
Raden Sukrawadi accompanied by two police officers to quell the
riots. The unfortunate fate could not be denied, Arsad and
Sukrawadi died at the hands of their citizens.
>
> ...
>
> During the revolutionary era, a number of Chinese citizens
experienced violence. They were perceived as Dutch stooges,
worshipers of economic gain who would depend on whichever regime
was in power. This presumption is the reason why many Chinese in
Indonesia were killed during the revolution. In fact, there are
so many Chinese figures who are actually at the forefront of
defending Indonesia's independence.
>
> ...
--- End Quote ---
Explaining again on another trusted source
Source :
HTML https://tirto.id/masa-bersiap-pasca-merdeka-masa-ngeri-tak-ada-sedapnya-cGog
On Nusantara Language :
--- Quote ---
> Masa-masa setelah 17 Agustus 1945, di mata orang Indonesia,
dianggap masa perjuangan. Setelah 3,5 tahun pendudukan Jepang
yang kejam, dan ratusan tahun kolonialisme Belanda, banyak orang
Indonesia merasa merdeka.
>
> Semangat kemerdekaan itu, di kalangan sebagian orang
Indonesia, dicampuri nafsu balas dendam kepada segala hal berbau
Belanda. Orang-orang ini tidak menyukai orang-orang yang dekat
dengan Belanda. Mereka yang bekerja untuk orang Belanda,
terutama orang Belanda yang bekerja untuk NICA, dijuluki sebagai
Andjing NICA.
>
> ...
>
> Semangat kemerdekaan itu, di kalangan sebagian orang
Indonesia, dicampuri nafsu balas dendam kepada segala hal berbau
Belanda. Orang-orang ini tidak menyukai orang-orang yang dekat
dengan Belanda. Mereka yang bekerja untuk orang Belanda,
terutama orang Belanda yang bekerja untuk NICA, dijuluki sebagai
Andjing NICA.
>
> “Kalau badan lagi apes dan kita dicurigai sebagai “andjing
NiCA” (mata-mata Belanda), nasib kita akan jelek sekali. Sudah
bagus kalau cuman dihajar dan digebukin saja,” tulis Kwee Thiam
Tjing dalam Indonesia Raya (15-17 Agustus 1972), seperti dimuat
dalam Menjadi Tjamboek Berdoeri: Memoar Kwee Thiam Tjing (2010).
>
> “Masa Bersiap ditandai maraknya tindakan kriminal dan
kekerasan dengan sasaran orang Belanda dan Indo-Belanda. Keadaan
ini terjadi hampir di seluruh Pulau Jawa dan Sumatera,” tulis
Tri Wahyuning M. Irsyam dalam Berkembang dalam Bayang-Bayang
Jakarta: Sejarah Depok 1950-1990-an (2017).
>
> ...
>
> “[Para korban] yang mati tak hanya ada di antara orang-orang
Belanda yang baru dibebaskan dari kamp—sekitar tiga ribu lima
ratus lebih jiwa—melainkan juga orang-orang Ambon, Cina kaya,
dan yang disebut Indo,” tulis Mischa de Vreede dalam Selamat
Merdeka: Kemerdekaan yang Direstui (2013).
>
> Pembunuhan terhadap orang-orang pro-Belanda atau yang dianggap
pro-Belanda itu, menurut Gert Oostindie dalam Serdadu Belanda di
Indonesia 1945-1950 (2016), “disertai penyiksaan keji dan
pemerkosaan. Perkiraan jumlah orang Eropa yang dibunuh berkisar
antara 3.500 sampai 20.000 orang."
>
> Cerita lain: Bahaya terhadap orang-orang Tionghoa dalam Masa
Bersiap juga membuat mereka rela dipersenjatai oleh Belanda
menghadapi Republik.
>
> “Sekutu dan NICA membentuk Poh An Tui (ada yang menulisnya Pao
An Tui), yang artinya: Pasukan Keamanan Lingkungan Cina,” tulis
Abdul Baqir Zein dalam Etnis Cina Dalam Potret Pembauran di
Indonesia (2000).
>
> Pasukan itu terbentuk untuk menjaga keamanan daerah Pecinan
dari kelompok-kelompok yang mereka sebut sebagai "kaum perampok
dan ekstremis."
--- End Quote ---
On English Colonial Language :
--- Quote ---
> The period after August 17, 1945, in the eyes of Indonesians,
was considered a period of struggle. After 3.5 years of cruel
Japanese occupation, and hundreds of years of Dutch colonialism,
many Indonesians feel free.
>
> The spirit of independence, among some Indonesians, was mixed
with a desire for revenge for all things Dutch. These people
don't like people close to the Netherlands. Those who work for
the Dutch, especially the Dutch who work for NICA, are known as
Andjing NICA.
>
> ...
>
> The spirit of independence, among some Indonesians, was mixed
with a desire for revenge for all things Dutch. These people
don't like people close to the Netherlands. Those who work for
the Dutch, especially the Dutch who work for NICA, are known as
Andjing NICA.
>
> "If the body is in bad shape and we are suspected of being
"NiCA dogs" (Dutch spies), our fate will be very bad. It's good
to just get beat up and beat up," wrote Kwee Thiam Tjing in
Indonesia Raya (15-17 August 1972), as published in Becoming
Tjamboek Berdoeri: Memoirs of Kwee Thiam Tjing (2010).
>
> “The Bersiap period was marked by rampant criminal and violent
acts targeting the Dutch and the Indo-Dutch. This situation
occurs in almost all of Java and Sumatra," wrote Tri Wahyuning
M. Irsyam in Developing in the Shadows of Jakarta: The History
of Depok 1950-1990s (2017).
>
> ...
>
> “[The victims] who died were not only Dutch people who had
just been released from the camp—about three thousand five
hundred and more—but also Ambonese, wealthy Chinese, and the
so-called Indos,” wrote Mischa de Vreede. in Happy Merdeka: A
Granted Independence (2013).
>
> The killings of pro-Dutch or pro-Dutch people, according to
Gert Oostindie in the Dutch Army in Indonesia 1945-1950 (2016),
“are accompanied by heinous torture and rape. Estimates of the
number of Europeans killed range from 3,500 to 20,000."
>
> Another story: The danger to the Chinese people in the Bersiap
also made them willing to be armed by the Dutch against the
Republic.
>
> “The Allies and NICA formed Poh An Tui (some wrote it Pao An
Tui), which means: Chinese Environmental Security Forces,” wrote
Abdul Baqir Zein in Ethnic Chinese In Portrait of Assimilation
in Indonesia (2000).
>
> The troops were formed to keep Chinatown safe from groups they
described as "robbers and extremists."
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 14783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 19, 2022, 10:50 pm
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"Nusantara Language"
By the way:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_orthography
--- Quote ---
> The arrival of European colonial powers brought the Latin
alphabet to the Malay Archipelago. As the Malay-speaking
countries were divided between two colonial administrations (the
Dutch and the British), two major different spelling
orthographies were developed in the Dutch East Indies and
British Malaya respectively, influenced by the orthographies of
their respective colonial tongues.[citation needed] The Van
Ophuijsen Spelling System used in the Dutch East Indies and
later Indonesia was based on the Dutch alphabet. It was replaced
by the simpler Republican Spelling System in 1947.
--- End Quote ---
When are you going to get back to your pre-colonial writing
systems?
--- Quote ---
> Historically, various scripts such as Pallava, Kawi and
Rencong or Surat Ulu were used to write Old Malay, until they
were replaced by Jawi during Islamic missionary missions in
Malay Archipelago.
--- End Quote ---
Until you do, it does not deserve to be called "Nusantara
language".
#Post#: 14784--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 19, 2022, 11:07 pm
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@90sRetroFan
--- Quote ---
> When are you going to get back to your pre-colonial writing
systems?
--- End Quote ---
We in Nusantara already implement Javanese language as a
speaking language. Majority of people here mostly speak with
Nusantara local language rather than modern "Indonesian"
language. Only in a occasion when they meet people from a
Nusantara region which has other local language to speak, they
will use "Indonesian" language, or Bahasa...
#Post#: 14785--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 19, 2022, 11:23 pm
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I am talking about writing.
#Post#: 14787--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 20, 2022, 12:12 am
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@90sRetroFan
--- Quote ---
> I am talking about writing.
--- End Quote ---
Officially, Nusantara still use Indonesia language which means
using words from Melayu people on most writings. So, it still
less Westernized rather than using "Jaksel" language, the type
of communication and writings which using mixture between
"Indonesian" and English colonial language. It usually used by
metropolitans and the fortunate rich people.
#Post#: 14788--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 20, 2022, 12:27 am
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No, I am talking about the actual script used for writing. You
need to get back to, for example:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rencong_script
--- Quote ---
> Rencong is any native writing system found in central and
south Sumatra, including Kerinci, Bengkulu, Palembang and
Lampung.[1] These scripts lasted until the 18th century, when
the Dutch colonized Indonesia. These scripts were used to write
manuscripts in native languages and in Malay, such as the
Tanjung Tanah Code of Law.
--- End Quote ---
or at least:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_alphabet
--- Quote ---
> The script became prominent with the spread of Islam,
supplanting the earlier writing systems. The Malays held the
script in high esteem as it is the gateway to understanding
Islam and its Holy Book, the Quran. The use of Jawi script was a
key factor driving the emergence of Malay as the lingua franca
of the region, alongside the spread of Islam.[15] It was widely
used in the Sultanate of Malacca, Sultanate of Johor, Sultanate
of Brunei, Sultanate of Sulu, Sultanate of Pattani, the
Sultanate of Aceh to the Sultanate of Ternate in the east as
early as the 15th century. The Jawi script was used in royal
correspondences, decrees, poems and was widely understood by the
merchants in the port of Malacca as the main means of
communication. Early legal digests such as the Undang-Undang
Melaka Code and its derivatives including the Codes of Johor,
Perak, Brunei, Kedah, Pattani and Aceh were written in this
script. It is the medium of expression of kings, nobility and
the religious scholars. It is the traditional symbol of Malay
culture and civilisation. Jawi was used not only amongst the
ruling class, but also the common people. The Islamisation and
Malayisation of the region popularised Jawi into a dominant
script.[16]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 14790--------------------------------------------------
Re: Nusantara's Kristallnacht
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 20, 2022, 1:02 am
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@90sRetroFan
--- Quote ---
> No, I am talking about the actual script used for writing. You
need to get back to, for example:
>
>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_alphabet
>
> [quote]The script became prominent with the spread of Islam,
supplanting the earlier writing systems. The Malays held the
script in high esteem as it is the gateway to understanding
Islam and its Holy Book, the Quran. The use of Jawi script was a
key factor driving the emergence of Malay as the lingua franca
of the region, alongside the spread of Islam.[15] It was widely
used in the Sultanate of Malacca, Sultanate of Johor, Sultanate
of Brunei, Sultanate of Sulu, Sultanate of Pattani, the
Sultanate of Aceh to the Sultanate of Ternate in the east as
early as the 15th century. The Jawi script was used in royal
correspondences, decrees, poems and was widely understood by the
merchants in the port of Malacca as the main means of
communication. Early legal digests such as the Undang-Undang
Melaka Code and its derivatives including the Codes of Johor,
Perak, Brunei, Kedah, Pattani and Aceh were written in this
script. It is the medium of expression of kings, nobility and
the religious scholars. It is the traditional symbol of Malay
culture and civilisation. Jawi was used not only amongst the
ruling class, but also the common people. The Islamisation and
Malayisation of the region popularised Jawi into a dominant
script.[16]
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
I'm recently know that Javanese or Jawi language historically
have ever been used by all of Nusantara people. So I'm glad
about that
So, I'm also need to gradually make Nusantarans to write and
speak with the local Nusantara language which contain less
Eurocentric meaning other than "Bahasa Indonesia". Which needs
more time to accomplish that.
#Post#: 15352--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: guest30
Date: August 26, 2022, 7:08 pm
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Even the Nusantarans during 1930s ever created the Fascist Party
which it's song were same like Hitler's party song. And the
strange was, they keep named our homeland "Nusantara" meanwhile
the other national parties were using "Indonesia" as a national
name to our homeland. See this video link/URL below to hear the
song :
Nusantara's Fascist Party Song 1933
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Y42FfMTuLsZ/
Again, and the strange was, they keep named our homeland
"Nusantara" meanwhile the other national parties were using
"Indonesia" as a national name to our homeland. See their
party's national symbol below
[img]
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/9a5ee6f9209ac6869315935b3bc797b8/68f09fadec0ac6ca-bb/s1280x1920/c6e10baa0ae7861909478a4bbce7daafc9e75042.pnj[/img]
The written sentence from the national symbol : Nusantara Raya
Abadi (English Colonial Language : Eternal Greater Nusantara)
#Post#: 15734--------------------------------------------------
Ideal Malaysia would be Anti-Western Malaysia
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: September 20, 2022, 12:52 am
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We can know that today's Malaysia are politically and
ideologically Western. See this information below :
--- Quote ---
> We commit to a closer coordination through multilateral fora,
including the United Nations, the Commonwealth and within the
framework of ASEAN. This will include exchanges on promoting the
rules based international system; ... human rights; democracy;
media freedom;
>
> We together with Australia, Singapore, and New Zealand will
continue to support the long-standing multilateral defence
relation under the Five Power Defence Arrangements.
--- End Quote ---
Source : Malaysia–United Kingdom Strategic Dialogue, February
2022 - Published 24 February 2022
(
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-malaysia-strategic-dialogue-2022/malaysia-united-kingdom-strategic-dialogue-february-2022)<br
/>
They must remember that it's them who colonized them hundreds of
years until their freedom during the end of World War 2. See
this historical information below :
--- Quote ---
> In 1511, Malacca fell into the hands of the Portuguese and
that was the beginning of the colonial era in Malaya. After
that, Malaya fell into the hands of the Dutch in 1641 and
British in 1824 through the Anglo–Dutch Treaty. British
colonization was the longest compared to others. The British had
integrated all the Malayan administration which was previously
managed by the Malay Rulers with the help of state dignitaries.
The British intervention had aroused dissatisfaction among the
local population. Some individuals rise up against the colonial
yet it was easily defeated by the British as their efforts were
more towards individuality. Among the heroes that went against
the colonialists were Dol Said, Tok Janggut, Datuk Bahaman,
Rentap, Dato Maharajalela, Rosli Dobi and several others.
--- End Quote ---
Source : Government of Malaysia's Official Gateway
(
HTML https://www.malaysia.gov.my/portal/content/30120)
...
--- Quote ---
> Muslim chief Mat Salleh fought expanding British power in
North Borneo from 1895 to 1900. ... British officials believed
that the rural Malay farmers needed to be protected from
economic and cultural change and that traditional class
divisions should be maintained. Hence, most economic development
was left to Chinese and Indian immigrants, as long as it served
long-term colonial interests.
--- End Quote ---
Source : The impact of British rule - Britannica
(
HTML https://www.britannica.com/place/Malaysia/The-impact-of-British-rule)
If the Malaysians are realize that they ever suffered under
British colonialism, they should implement a political system
which contrary to the current political system which they use.
That's liberal democracy which resulting opportunistic economic
way of life, social gentrification, social imbalance, and
unopposed westernization. And their alliance with the
Anglophiles will insult the victim and the heroes who resisted
their colonial rule in the past
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