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Re: Communism
By: rp Date: April 16, 2023, 8:02 pm
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Gottfried is correct on what communism is, but he still makes
the error of calling wokeism (or at least the False Left version
of it) "Cultural Marxism". Here is Duchesne correcting him on
it:
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[quote]Gottfried is of course correct that Marxism is not woke,
though it was a radically progressive ism for its time --- but
he is not right identifying wokeism with cultural Marxism, and
calling it a new form of collectivism: it is liberalism and it
is individualistic.
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: June 16, 2023, 2:11 am
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The real Communist View towards Society
If you don't have time, read the sentences which given by red
bold
[quote]On September 14, 1901, the Social Democratic Herald
characterized Negroes as inferior, depraved elements who went
around “raping women [and] children.”20 In an article in the
same organ, dated May 31, 1902, Victor L. Berger, one of the
national leaders of the Socialist Party, wrote that “there can
be no doubt that the negroes and mulattoes constitute a lower
race” and that “free contact with the whites has led to further
degeneration of the negroes.[/quote]
A Conservative History of the American Left by Daniel J. Flynn
page 161
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[quote]Apparently the International Socialist Bureau was content
with this explanation.
Despite differences of opinions as to the causes of race hatred,
both Center and Right agreed that socialism was exclusively an
economic movement and had nothing to do with social equality.
The party would insist that under socialism both Negro and white
workers received all they produced. But that did not mean that
the two races would work in the same factories or even live in
the same cities. Center and Right-wing Socialist explained that
Negroes and whites did not want to associate. It was capitalism
that forced them to live and work together. Socialism would
solve the race question in the only possible manner-complete
segregration.128 Until socialism was achieved there was no
objection to separate Negro communities, schools, and Socialist
locals.129 There were no Negroes in southern Socialist
locals,130 but the Center and Right-wing Socialist insisted that
this was not discrimination. Jews also live apart from gentiles,
and "no one will claim that there is, in any civilized community
deserving the name, any vestige of ill-will between the two
peoples."131
There is no record that the party ever actively opposed
discrimination against Negroes from 1901 to 1912. Only one
resolution on the subject was offered to the National Committee.
In 1906 President Roosevelt dismissed without trial and
apparently without justification three companies of Negro troops
in connection with a riot at Brownsville, Texas.132 A member of
the Socialist National Committee moved that the committee
condemn Roosevelt's action. The Right and Center objected to
this "attempt to inject the negro question into the Socialist
Party." The Left objected because the army was a "capitalist
tool" and Socialist were not interested in army justice. The
motion was defeated, 28 to 4, with 25 abstentions.133
The party Left wing had no use for distinctions between
economic, political, and social equality. Debs opposed all
discrimination and toured the South calling on the Negro to
reject the false doctrines of "meekness and humility." Only
through organized struggle in the labor and socialist movement,
said Debs, would the Negro win equality.134 The Left held that
the South should not be permitted to build segregrated locals.
Southern Socialist should work to wipe out race prejudice and
discrimination.135 The party must engage in active propaganda
and organization among Negroes.136 As the years passed with no
organized work among Negroes and with race prejudice apparently
increasing among Socialist, some members of the Left became
increasingly bitter in their criticism of party chauvinism.137
But despite their theoretical stand for Negro equality, the Left
made virtually no effort to use the party in a struggle for
Negro rights. Those Socialist who felt the urgency of work among
minorities turned more and more to the Industrial Workers of the
World as the organization that was not afraid to fight.138
From these conflicting conceptions of socialist theory,
organization, and activity it is not possible to generalize with
certainty on what the Socialist Party as a party thought it was
doing or accomplishing. At best it can be said that from 1901
through 1904 most Socialist considered socialism a science whose
leading expounders had been Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. This
science showed that new industrial techniques were rendering
obsolete the capitalist form of production and distribution.
Economic law made the transition to socialism inevitable. The
Socialist Party was to be exclusively a political or electoral
organization for which workers and farsighted farmers and
members of the middle class would cast their votes. Socialism
would be ushered in either after the national and local
electoral triumph of the Party (Center-Left position) or as the
almost unnoticed culmination of a long series of reforms
(Right-wing position). Participation in the problems of minority
groups or in the economic struggles of labor was at most of
secondary importance. The major concern of the party was
education leading to votes for Socialist candidates. And that
meant speeches and distribution of literature.[/quote]
The American Socialist Movement by Ira Kipnis, 1897-1912 page
132 until 134
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How can American communists behave like today's the American
republicans and Europe's western conservatives? Are they the
real implementer of Cultural Marxism?
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Re: Communism
By: rp Date: August 2, 2023, 1:22 pm
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It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the
blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why -
the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even
harder to understand where to go next.
But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on
the world we live in. A scientific and logical analysis of
systems of limited resources - Marxism. When we undertake a
Marxist analysis of the sexual economy, we immediately find its
nuances explained and its realities presented for all to see.
The fundamental element of inequality is exploitation. In
economic Marxism, exploitation occurs when a capitalist takes
most of the value a worker's labor creates, leaving them barely
enough to survive. In other words, the worker's surplus value is
stolen from them. This is how capitalists make profits.
Sometimes, the capitalists let some segments of workers keep
more of their value, in order to bribe and pacify them.
In the sexual economy, there are two distinct classes of men -
Chads...and everyone else. There is a group which keeps most
women for itself - the Chad-Bourgeois - and a much larger group
which, despite being responsible for maintaining global
civilization with their labor so that Chad is free to take all
he wants, is denied most women. These are the sexual
proletariat.
[B]The sexuality of women should be evenly spread among
society,[/b] but it is not. Instead, it is commodified by sexual
capitalism and given to Chad. The Chad-Bourgeoisie allow the
sexual proletariat to have just as much pussy as they need to
keep the human race alive through reproduction. But even here is
it not fair; the proletariat get Chad's leftovers - only when
the Chad-Bourgeois no longer want a woman does she go to settle
down, marry, and reproduce with a non-Chad.
Now, I mentioned before that the economic bourgeois sometimes
bribe workers by giving them more than they would otherwise. In
the modern era, the Chad-Bourgeois are facing a world where the
proletariat is no longer consigned to the feudal life of
arranged marriages without any questions asked, and can see the
reality of sexual inequality via media and their own insights.
The Chad-Bourgeois responds by bribing the sexual proletariat -
they, too, are now allowed to have sex before marriage, and
perhaps fuck many women. These women are, of course, still the
ones Chad doesn't want, but it bribes most of the world.
Remember, this happened when the sexual free market, where women
can now choose their partners without having to marry a non-Chad
in the end, replaced the Feudal system of arranged marriage.
This is sexual capitalism.
The people so bribed are normies. This is the main reason why
normies are blind to the sexual capitalist system and lack
revolutionary potential.
But the system is imperfect. Due to the female's nature, not all
members of the proletariat can be bribed just by the
Chad-Bourgeois allowing (pseudo) free sex for everyone. A group
at the bottom is inevitability left out - incels.
As sexual feudalism shifted to sexual capitalism, a
contradiction was exposed - the Contradiction of Sexual
Capitalism is the existence of incels, and the conclusion of the
capitalist stage of history must be the resolving of this
contradiction. Due to how females are hardwired to be only
attracted to Chads, incels always lose in a sexual free market.
Many females would rather be single than marry an incel, and a
result the incels become a class which doesn't even get
marriage, much less any additional bribes. Due to their extreme
condition, the incels become "blackpilled" and see the system as
it is. The incels thus attain class consciousness.
The basic structure of the sexual world is that the
Chad-Bourgeois take all the pussy they can, especially the
desirable kind, while eventually passing their leftovers to the
sexual proletariat as bribes and allowances. Among the latter
group, those are who successfully bribed are normies, and those
who become class conscious are incels.
So how do the Chad-Bourgeois manage to keep society under their
control, even with incels attain class consciousness? In
Marxism, the answer is the Base and superstructure. In a sexual
capitalist society, all we know is shaped by the system of
sexual economy we live in. Our culture, beliefs, and so on are
bent to conform to and reinforce the Chad-Bourgeois narrative.
In order to prevent the sexual proletariat from attaining class
consciousness, the Chad-Bourgouse use culture to create a false
consciousness for them to live in instead.
The key to understanding this is to understand that truth is
relative to one's class. Comrade Lenin explained this with his
concept of partiinost, party truth. What is "true" depends on
your class, truth for one class may be falsehood for another.
Thus, what class's "truth" you're listening to is very
important.
For example, let's take the Chad-Bourgeois idea of "confidence."
Confidence is an intentionally vague idea to explain Chad's
sexual success as anything besides winning the genetic lottery.
It is said that someone - anyone - with "confidence" can also
live like Chad does. For the Chad-Bourgoise, this is true. All a
Chad has to do is be willing step outside or set up an online
dating profile and they will get all the pussy they want.
However, for the rest of the world, this is not the case. By
enforcing the idea of confidence instead of genetic luck, Chad
yet again bribes the sexual proletariat - bribes them with hope.
The idea of confidence explains structural inequality as
personal failure - in the same way the capitalist tells the
exploited worker that he, too, would be rich if he only worked
harder, so does the Chad tell the sexual proletariat that they
could have sex if they were only just a little more confident.
In this way, the sexual proletariat are blamed for their own
oppression - their celibacy is a result of their own moral
failings, because they were not "confident" enough. The
Chad-Bourgeois present themselves as having earned the pussy
they inherent, while the rest of the world deserves to live
without. Confidence is just one example of how sexual capitalism
distorts culture and creates false narratives to keep people
blind.
Normies love false narratives because they are bribed. A normie,
who may have even had sex, believes that his success in the past
means the confidence narrative and so on is true - he can truly
be a Chad, if he works hard enough! Thus the normies convince
themselves Chad's world is not only fair but desirable, because
they too might have a chance of being chad.
Normies are deceived to varying degrees.
A regular normie has had their bribe a few times and doesn't
bother to think about the realities of exploitation and the
sexual economy. These normies can be blackpilled with evidence,
but most of them just double down on the false consciousness due
to their hope that they can be a Chad.
A beta is a normie who is faced with the reality of sexual
inequality. He may be an orbiter, hanging around women in the
hope he'll get sex. He may be a nice guy, who is nice to women
for the same reason. He may be cucked, whereby he shares a
single woman with other men so that he can at least get laid.
Though he may deny it, he is painfully aware of these material
and sexual realities.
A white knight has come against a blackpill before, and it
scared them. They swing the other way - they actively try and
spread Chad's narrative and enforce it, because they are trying
convince themselves. There is great overlap between white
knights and Betas, as the latter often exhibit white knight
behavior. Many Betas turn into white knights when confronted
with the black pill.
All normies have one thing in common - they do not want to
accept the reality of the blackpill because they want to
continue to believe they can be Chad. Another element is that
they enjoy Chad's narrative when it suits them - regarding
incels. They don't like to remember that Chad is sexually more
successful then them because he is just better....but that's not
so bad if it means that they are better than incels in turn,
since they at least "earned" some sex and incels could not! In
economic capitalism, the reality of economic status defined by
class is ignored in favor of an individualist, democratic
narrative, and sexual capitalism works the same way. The
realities of incels and the Chad-Bourgeois are overlooked in
favor of the lie that it's all about individual action, that any
individual can work his way to the top of the sexual marketplace
through hard work and imaginary concepts like "confidence."
By the methods described above, the Chad-Bourgeois extract all
of the surplus value - in this context, surplus pussy - from the
workers/sexual proletariat for themselves, and maintain the
system through bribing normies and creating false consciousness.
But here's where it gets really interesting - the immortal
science of historical materialism explains even more than this.
Everyone knows that even among Chads there is a hierarchy - a
racial hierarchy, with white Chad at the top. In the 1960s,
Comrade Mao Zedong developed Marxist-Leninist-Maoism to explain
the differences between the first world and the third world.
Maoism reveals the first world exploits the third world through
imperialism, and sets up a global class hierarchy of sorts. This
economic hierarchy in turn ties into a sexual hierarchy - one
where the imperialist white Chads are above the colonized Chads.
A critique of imperialism explains the racial Chad hierarchy -
which, of course, filters down into the sexual proletariat as
well.
Following this trend, we can see the close interconnection
between looks (Chad privilege) and economic success. Females
like money and power...and it seems Chad ends up with those as
well.
We all know that studies have proven Chads are much more likely
to succeed in economic sphere. They are given quality jobs and
often end up in very social, very prestigious positions like
executive officers. But this shows us that wealth comes second.
Poor Chads still dominate the sexual proletariat, and their
poverty, on average, never lasts long. In other words, sexual
inequality comes before economic inequality, and due to how
intertwined they are, it means that economic inequality is a
consequence of sexual inequality due to society's constant
preference for Chad. Sexual inequality predates economic
capitalism, feudalism, even primitive tribalism - sexual
inequality is the original and eternal form of hierarchy, it is
harbinger of all other inequalities in other areas.
Thus, the Revolutionary and Immortal Science of
Marxist-Rodgerism is born. We see that the fundamental conflict
is between the well endowed Chad-Bourgeoisie and the sexual
proletariat, and that all other conflicts ultimately derive from
this great inequality. We see that the Chad-Bourgeois
manipulates culture and society to further its narratives and
worldview to maintain this power structure. Finally, we must
conclude that the only way forward for humanity is to dismantle
the system of sexual capitalism so that sex can be distributed
fairly to all members of society.
Incels of the world, rise up! You have nothing to lose but your
chains!
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Re: Communism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 2, 2023, 4:41 pm
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[quote]There is a group which keeps most women for itself - the
Chad-Bourgeois - and a much larger group which, despite being
responsible for maintaining global civilization with their labor
so that Chad is free to take all he wants, is denied most
women.[/quote]
Here is the fundamental fallacy: it is not that Chads are
prohibiting women who want to have sex with incels from doing
so; it is that that the women themselves do not choose incels to
have sex with when allowed to choose freely!
[quote]The sexuality of women should be evenly spread among
society[/quote]
This is a defining characteristic of patriarchy. And this is
what Western civilization historically did to a greater extent
than non-Western civilizations:
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: August 22, 2023, 6:37 am
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Real-Marxism historically ever implemented
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Real example of [b]Cultural Marxism. Western Conservativism
tradition with radical industrialism and democratization[/b]
Recall :
HTML https://chroniclesmagazine.org/view/marx-was-not-woke/
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Re: Communism
By: .. Date: September 13, 2023, 10:21 pm
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The Bolshevik poison has no boundaries and has no limits, it's
like a swift moving virus that has now infected the globe.
Hitler was right about this danger, what people has enough
stamina to give it the death blow?
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Re: Communism
By: . Date: September 14, 2023, 4:59 pm
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No expense can be spared, all forces must be strengthened and
totally united to deal with this plague wherever it manifests.
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: November 28, 2023, 1:26 am
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The Dark History of Paris Commune
[quote]The early history of France’s Third Republic provides
another example of the passage to working-class respectability
in a colonial context.The new regime was born in the crisis of
military defeat and revolution, dramatized above all by the
fiery apocalypse of the Paris Commune, which represented the
final major manifestation of the insurgent Parisian crowd that
had haunted French politics since 1789. The bloody defeat of the
Communards definitively exorcised this threat, rendering the
creation of a viable liberal democracy possible in the last
quarter of the nineteenth century.68
Conquest of the Commune by the forces of conservatism in 1871
was a victory for both liberal democracy and empire. The images
of savagery that surrounded the Communards, most notably the
portrayals of Communard women as incendiary Amazons, strongly
suggested the triumph of civilization over barbarity.69 It is
worth noting that a leading punishment for those insurgents who
survived the government’s vicious repression was deportation to
the colonies: more than four thousand were sent to New Caledonia
alone. When in 1878 the indigenous peoples of the island staged
a major revolt against the French, the bulk of the Communard
exiles sided with the colonial authorities against the
insurgents, some even taking up arms and joining the forces of
order to suppress the Kanaks. As Alice Bullard has noted, in New
Caledonia two visions of savagery, political and racial,
confronted each other. A year later, the Communard veterans
were allowed to return to France and the French state amnestied
them in 1880. By abjuring their own insurgent traditions and
taking up the cause of imperial authority, the former Communards
symbolized the alliance of liberal democracy and empire that
lay at the heart of the Third Republic.70[/quote]
Source :
White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall
2021 Princeton University Press page 167, 168
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: November 28, 2023, 7:44 pm
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Discriminative Communist Movement Post-World War I
[quote]Workers of the world, unite and fight for a white South
Africa. - South Africa Industrial Federation, 1922[/quote]
[quote]The renewed emphasis on whiteness after World War I also
took place within several Western nations. As we have seen, the
war itself had brought large numbers of men of color to Europe,
especially France, and in the United States had fueled the first
Great Migration of African-Americans to the North.64 The end of
the war brought a powerful rejection of this wartime
multiculturalism and a reassertion of whiteness, at times in
conjunction with radical and revolutionary labor movements. The
ultimate example of this came in 1922, when striking South
African miners adopted the slogan Workers of the world unite and
fight for a white
South Africa, but this was not an isolated incident.65 The year
1919 in particular saw intense labor and revolutionary struggles
as well as widespread race riots. From January to August of that
year, for example, a series of riots erupted in Britain’s port
cities, as white sailors and longshoremen attacked men from the
Caribbean, Africa, and South Asia and the Middle East. In a
climate of postwar economic downturn, white port workers and
their unions attacked nonwhites for “taking” their jobs, often
successfully expelling them from increasingly white workplaces
on the docks of Liverpool, Bristol, London, and other cities.
This took place in a climate of radical working-class politics
in general, so that in Glasgow Scottish workers seemed to
threaten revolution.66
The situation was more extreme in France. During the war France
had brought in more than 300,000 workers from its colonies and
China to labor in its factories and fields. With the end of the
war, tensions increased between industry, the government, and
the unions over the role of labor in the postwar period. Dazzled
by the specter of the Russian Revolution, many French workers
moved sharply to the left, leading to the creation of the French
Communist Party at the end of 1920.67 At the same time,
however, France needed labor more than ever. Roughly 1.6
million Frenchmen had died in the war, and many more had
returned wounded and unable to work. Moreover, the nation had
one of the lowest birth rates in Europe and would soon achieve
negative population growth in the interwar years, while at the
same time it needed more workers to rebuild the country and
repair the destruction caused by the war.68
In this revolutionary climate, however, the one thing all the
major parties could agree on was the need to get rid of colonial
workers. By the end of 1919 French authorities had rounded up
and repatriated 90 percent of the “exotic” workers in the
country. At the same time, it made new arrangements to bring
foreign workers from Southern and Eastern Europe, whose numbers
would swell to the millions in the 1920s. In making the
argument for European over colonial labor, French authorities
made clear their desire to reverse the multiracial immigration
that had begun during the war, saying “[It is necessary] To call
upon labor of European origin, in preference to colonial or
exotic labor, because of the social and ethnic difficulties
which could arise from the presence upon French soil of
ethnographic elements too clearly distinct from the rest of the
population.”69 The choice of European over “exotic” workers was
a clear statement of the importance of whiteness to the
character of the nation, and it paralleled the contrast between
the extension of liberal democracy in postwar Europe and the
continuation of imperial rule in postwar Asia and
Africa.70[/quote]
Source :
White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall
2021 Princeton University Press page 219, 222, 223
Recall :
Marx Was Not Woke April 2023 by Paul Gottfried
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Re: Western Democracy
By: antihellenistic Date: December 18, 2023, 12:25 am
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[quote]At the beginning of his research, Prof. Vanhanen
theorized that democratic countries were more likely than
authoritarian ones to be able to contain ethnic discord, because
people could express nepotism thorough politics rather than
through violence. In order to test this theory he calculated
something called the Index of Democracy for each country, and
plotted it against levels of group conflict. He found that as a
general rule, the presence or lack of democratic government
seems to account for only about 10 percent of the level of
conflict, leading him to conclude that “the level of ethnic
conflicts seems to be nearly independent from the degree of
democratization.” Part of the problem is that democracy is
usually found in countries that are ethnically homogeneous,
where there is probably not much conflict anyway. When the EH
index is held constant, differences in the degree of democracy
do not seem to have much effect on the level of conflict.
...
As a general rule, Prof. Vanhanen finds that former Communists
countries and former parts of the Soviet Union have higher
levels of conflict than their levels of diversity would suggest.
This is probably because Communist regimes kept ethnic struggles
bottled up, and they are only now reappearing. Prof. Vanhanen
predicts that although Cuba has followed the Communist practice
of suppressing racial strife; as soon as Cubans are free to
express themselves, conflict is likely to break into the open.
Prof. Vanhanen finds that miscegenation can take the edge off
ethnic conflict. He offers Brazil as an example of extensive
interbreeding that dilutes racial boundaries that would
otherwise be much sharper.[/quote]
Source :
The Anatomy of Ethnic Conflict Thomas Jackson, American
Renaissance, June 2002 Posted on April 17, 2019
HTML https://www.amren.com/news/2019/04/anatomy-ethnic-conflict-tatu-vanhanen/
Recall :
[quote]“We must accept the mixing of blood as it is. We must not
call one blood worse than another, one mixture better than
another. Rather, we must employ other means to breed a higher
form from this gray mass. We must try’ to bring to the surface
the valuable traits ofthe people living in Germany, to cultivate
and to develop them, and we must find ways and means to prevent
the propagation of all the bad, inferior, criminal, and decadent
tendencies and all the congenital diseases so damaging to the
Volk. - Adolf Hitler[/quote]
Source :
Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant page 214
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