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Re: Communism
By: rp Date: November 29, 2022, 11:55 am
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I wanted to mention another thing rightists have in common with
communists is the use of economic argumentation to rationalize
the behavior of mass shooters and "incels", and more broadly the
bad behavior of "white" men.
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Re: Communism
By: guest78 Date: November 29, 2022, 1:11 pm
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"White" economics have made non-"whites" behave just as badly as
"whites" themselves though. Economic considerations seem to be
the main driving factor for the spread of "white" bad behavior
among non-"white" populations....
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Re: Communism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 29, 2022, 4:45 pm
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Rightists use economics to excuse "white" failure but blame
"non-white" failure on heredity. This is a different approach
than communists, who at least avoid this double-standard and
apply economic explanations across the board.
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Re: Communism
By: rp Date: December 8, 2022, 9:04 pm
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Good point. When it's a "white" shooter it's always "broken
families", "lack of a strong father figure". But when it's a
"black" shooter it's the "MAOA gene".
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Re: Communism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 8, 2022, 9:24 pm
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Re: Communism
By: Communism Date: March 5, 2023, 6:01 pm
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The Communist Cookbook That Defined Prague’s Cuisine
[quote]For years, one book dictated how and what people could
eat.[/quote]
[quote]In the newly independent Czech Republic of the 1990s,
cheap comfort food—such as goulash, pork knuckle, and
dumplings—dominated every eatery. Meanwhile vegetarians were
encouraged to feast on fried cheese and stewed cabbage. (The
late Anthony Bourdain famously called it “the land vegetables
forgot” in an episode of his travel show No Reservations.) For
the most part, tourists loved Prague in spite of the food rather
than because of it. But Czechs didn’t understand the criticism.
After 40 years of communism, the culinary splendor that once
dominated Czech culture was a distant memory due, in part, to
one very specific cookbook.
As a former cultural capital of both the Holy Roman and Habsburg
Empires, ingredients and ideas once flowed freely between Prague
and major metropolises in Austria, Hungary, Italy, France, and
beyond. By the time Napoleon’s army claimed victory in the
Battle of Austerlitz, the city was an epicurean epicenter
rivaling Paris and Vienna. Czechs were roasting goose better
than Germans, using gnocchi in ways the Italians never thought
of, and incorporating French techniques that made their meat
sauces even richer. Royal banquets often featured delicacies
including pheasant, turtle, and Španělské ptáčky
(Spanish birds), a Czech version of roulade made from beef or
veal. Economic and gastronomic excellence even survived the
First World War.
It wasn’t until the Nazis invaded in 1939, implementing
stringent rationing and 10-12-hour workdays, that Czechoslovak
cuisine took its first big hit. Every person was issued coupons
that signified the amount of bread, sugar, meat, and fat they
could obtain (children under ten were given additional rations
of butter and milk). But after a few years, Jews were forbidden
to purchase fruit, cheese, and meat. Daily life was such a
challenge and access was so limited that cooking was no longer a
priority. Occupiers encouraged Czechs to cook Eintopf (a one-pot
potato stew), but this was a far cry from traditional Sunday
roast, and it never quite caught on. Those fortunate enough to
have family in the country would meet them at quiet train
stations to receive black market eggs and meat.[/quote]
This was during war-time...
Continuing with the article:
[quote]When communists came to power in 1948, citizens were
hopeful they could return to a life containing more prewar
luxuries. Though the quality of food improved, life under
socialist ideas still proved restrictive. Twenty years later,
when liberalization started to gain traction, the party saw a
need for even stricter control. In an effort to consolidate
power, they purged reformist officials from the government and
established a range of restrictions on everyday activities.
Eating was no exception.
The state Restaurants and Cafeterias company soon issued a
national cookbook entitled Receptury teplých pokrmu, or Recipes
for Warm Meals. Dubbed “normovacka,” or “the book of standards,”
it dictated what cooks in the country could serve in 845
recipes. Ladislav Pravaan, curator of the Gastronomie Muzeum of
Prague, explains that the book even specified sources and
serving styles for everything from sauces to side dishes.
The cookbook’s authors, František Syrový and Antonin Nestával,
were relatively well-known chefs at the time (Nestával had even
represented Czech gastronomy at the 1967 Montreal Expo). But the
book emphasized limiting food imports and cooking economically,
so it didn’t include anything you might expect to try at a
culinary competition. Nutrition was also a core component of the
book: The idea was that the the better-balanced people’s meals
were, the harder people would work. In the book, calorie count
and vitamin details were listed alongside ingredients and
instructions, and certain recipes were suggested for certain
professions. Portion sizes were designed by the hundreds,
indicating that select dishes were to be cooked in large
quantities each day.[/quote]
In comparison, National Socialism and Aryanism are only
concerned with cooking ethically, not economically.
Continuing:
[quote]Cooks that wanted to deviate from these recipes had to
get approval from the Ministry of Health, a request that could
take years to go through. Most people opted for the easier
route, which is how thousands of nearly identical menus came to
be established across the country. Paired with limited
ingredient diversity, the nation suffered a creative drought: It
wasn’t just that all the same dishes were served, but the dishes
were prepared exactly the same way, resulting in identical
versions of dishes, too. Each bite was calculated as a means of
productivity, and dining for pleasure was considered
extravagant. “Special” meals were no longer considered, and the
scope of Czech cuisine shrunk...[/quote]
Entire article:
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All western ideological considerations in regards to diet,
whether it be communism or capitalism, merely focus on growth
and productivity\economics. Only National Socialism and Aryanism
have ever truly be concerned with a diet based on the ethical
consideration of "do unto others as you would want done unto
you". Westerners prove that they are immoral and unethical
people simply by their diets alone.
(Not an endorsement of pro-Western Ghandi):
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Is nature\Yahweh also not cruel? Human-beings worked hard to
remove themselves as much as possible from nature's laws via
civilization, yet left all the other non-human people behind to
continue to suffer from nature's laws, did they not?
There was widespread support for animal welfare in Nazi
Germany[1] (German: Tierschutz im nationalsozialistischen
Deutschland) among the country's leadership. Adolf Hitler and
his top officials took a variety of measures to ensure animals
were protected.[2]
[quote]Several Nazis were environmentalists, and species
protection and animal welfare were significant issues in the
Nazi regime.[3] Heinrich Himmler made an effort to ban the
hunting of animals.[4] Hermann Göring was a professed animal
lover and conservationist,[5] who, on instructions from Hitler,
committed Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to
concentration camps. In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda
Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian whose
hatred of the Jewish religion in large part stemmed from the
ethical distinction this faith drew between the value of humans
and the value of other animals; Goebbels also mentions that
Hitler planned to ban slaughterhouses in the German Reich
following the conclusion of World War II.[6] Nevertheless,
animal testing was common in Nazi Germany.[7][8][9]
The current animal welfare laws in Germany were initially
introduced by the Nazis.[10] [/quote]
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Ghandi did not realize that Hitler was not Western either:
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Ghandi was a Humanist, just like Westerners still are today!:
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Ethically and morally speaking, do westerners not deserve to be
treated the same exact way they have been treating non-human
people, if not worse? Could non-humans ever wage an effective
and just war against human-beings without the help of an
anti-Western human?
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Re: Communism
By: rp Date: March 15, 2023, 6:26 pm
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[quote]
Dr. Ricardo Duchesne
@dr_duchesne
Blaming socialism is a strategy orchestrated by right wing
establishment to sidetrack from the equal culpability of
capitalist globalists in the promotion of immigration
replacement and transsexualism. As Marx said, capitalism
destroys traditions and makes the world homogenous.
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[quote]
Carl Benjamin
@Sargon_of_Akkad
The salt that emerges when someone correctly points out that the
Nazis were a socialist party, followed a form of socialism, and
engaged in political violence as socialists is just
delicious.[/quote]
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: March 22, 2023, 11:43 pm
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Communism only worked on the people who already adapt to
industrialism and already accept capitalism
See the sentences which given bold if don't have time to read
all of the quoted content
[quote]Movement is the mode of existence of the entire material
universe. Energy and matter are inseparable. Moreover, movement
does not come "from outside", but is a manifestation of internal
tensions which are inseparable not only from life, but also from
all forms of matter. Development and change occur through
internal contradictions. Thus, dialectical analysis begins by
exposing these internal contradictions through empirical
investigation which then results in development and change.
From a dialectical point of view all the "opposites" are
one-sided and inadequate, including the contradiction between
"truth and error". Marxism does not accept the existence of
"Eternal Truth". All "truth" and "wrong" is relative. What is
right at one time and context is wrong at another: right and
wrong cross one another.
So the progress of knowledge and science does not start from the
negation of an "incorrect theory". All theories are relative,
explaining one side of reality. Initially they were assumed to
have universal validity and application. They are "right". But
at some point, the shortcomings of this theory began to be
recognized; they can't be used for all situations, exceptions
always exist. This had to be explainable, and at some point, new
theories were developed to explain the exceptions. But these new
theories not only "negate" the old, but also incorporate them in
a new form.
We can set aside contradictions only by considering objects as
inanimate things, static and situated separately from one
another, that is, metaphysically. But once we understand things
in their movement and change, in their life, in their
interdependence and interaction, we encounter a series of
contradictions.
...
All forms of human society exist because it is a necessity of
time: "No special order disappears before all the productive
forces to which it belongs, have been developed: and new, higher
relations of production never arise until the material
conditions of their existence have sufficiently matured." in the
womb of the old society. Mankind has therefore always taken up
problems only which he can solve, for, on observing these
problems more closely, we will always find that the problem
itself arises only when the necessary material conditions for
its solution already exist or are at least in the process of
being formed. ”. (Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of
Political Economy).
Slavery, at its time, represented a great leap beyond barbarism.
Slavery was a necessary stage in the development of the
productive forces, culture and society. As explained by Hegel:
"It is not from slavery, but through slavery that humans become
free". (Hegel, Philosophy of History)
Likewise capitalism is also a necessary and progressive stage in
society. However, like slavery, primitive communism and
feudalism (see section 2), capitalism has long ceased to
represent a necessary and progressive social system. It is
already rickety because of the deep contradictions that lie
within it, and will in time be overthrown by the rise of
socialism, which is represented by the modern proletariat.
Private ownership of the means of production and the
nation-state, which are the basic features of capitalist
society, which originally marked a step forward, now only
hinders the development of the productive forces and threatens
all the progress that has been made after centuries of human
development.
Today capitalism is a porous and backward social system, which
must be overthrown and replaced by its opposite, Socialism, if
human culture is to survive. Marxism is determinist, but not
fatalist, because the alignment of contradictions in society can
only be achieved by humans who consciously seek to bring about
the transformation of society. The struggle between these
classes is not something that is natural. Who succeeds depends
on many factors, and a rising progressive class has many
advantages over an aging force of reaction. But in the end, the
result must depend on which side is stronger determined, bigger
organization and more talented and formidable leadership.
Therefore Marxist philosophy is essentially a guide to action:
“Philosophers have interpreted the world in various ways;
but the aim, after all, is to change it.” (Marx,
Feuerbach's theses)
The victory of socialism will mark a new and clearly different
stage in the history of mankind. More accurately, it would mark
the end of humankind's prehistory, and begin real history.
But, on the other hand, socialism signifies our return to the
earliest form of society - tribal communism - but at a much
higher level, which stands above all the tremendous
contributions made over the thousands of years of class society.
An abundant economy will be made possible by the application of
socialist planning to industry, science and engineering, which
has been established by capitalism, on a global scale. This
would in turn abolish the division of labour, the distinction
between mental and physical labor, between town and country, and
the barbaric and unnecessary class conflicts, and allow humanity
to finally be able to allocate its resources to the domination
of nature: in the words of Engels who famous, "Humanity's Leap
from the world of necessity to the World of Freedom". (Marx and
Engels,Capital Vol. III)
Translated by Sekar from “What is Marxism?” by Rob
Sewell and Alan Woods (In Defence of Marxism)14th September
2018[/quote]
In short, communism need capitalist and western colonialism in
order to made the colonized being educated to manage the
industry and technological advancements. And then they will
support communism because feel oppressed by the capitalist
unjust economic system which enforced by the colonialist.
Communism can be applied only on highly industrialized and
technologically advanced society. Therefore only the nation or
community which expert to exploiting world's resources which
able to accept communism. And the nations who can't do that will
got preyed by the communist states in order to got introduced to
industrialist oppressive system by the communist states. I hope
China will not do this to the non-western states and instead see
their main enemy is Western Civilization. Communism don't
believe absolute truth, only relativism. Because it promoting
human interest to reform into different way of life which suited
for communist western industrial advancement. Communist viewed
slavery are not evil, but necessary conditions to accept "human
development"
Source :
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: April 1, 2023, 11:24 pm
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[color=red]Inferiority of Communist Doctrine[/color]
Communist saw everything relative depending on the society's
material's progressive condition
[quote]b) Everything is determined by circumstances, place and
time
Recognizing that there is an organic mutual relationship between
phenomena also means that the existence of something cannot be
separated from the circumstances around it, or the existence of
something that has certain conditions. The meaning of something
is determined by the circumstances or situation. When the
situation changes, the meaning also changes. For example, the
growth of the capitalist mode of production or capitalism
requires certain conditions, that is, on the one hand there is
capital, on the other hand wage labor is available. And these
conditions only existed at the end of the feudal era in Europe.
At a time when capitalism has a revolutionary meaning against
feudalism, the bourgeoisie has a revolutionary role against
feudalism. But capitalism and the bourgeoisie in the countries
of Western Europe and America are no longer revolutionary, but
reactionary. Because the bourgeoisie in these countries no
longer wants revolutionary changes in society, they are
desperately defending a system of society that is no, they
repeated what the feudal lords they had overthrown had done.
Thus it is clear that dialectical materialism is opposed to a
frozen metaphysical view, which seeks to perpetuate or absolute
something, or to look at and analyze something that is separated
from its surroundings, from being separated from other things.
For example, viewing capitalism as something that stands alone;
because capitalism is a system of exploitation of humans by
humans, it is considered a reactionary system and must be
opposed absolutely anywhere and at any time. As a continuation
of this erroneous assumption, is to assess the position of the
national capitalists in our present country definitively as a
reactionary class, because they consider the paying class. Thus,
they do not see each other in conflict with imperialism and
feudalism, so that the revolutionary role of the national
bourgeoisie is not seen at the present stage of the Indonesian
revolution which is objectively anti-imperialism and
anti-feudalism.
In short, with this view of mutual relations, we teach that when
looking at and solving a problem, do not separate it from the
relationship as a whole, because there is nothing that has no
cause or effect, everything is determined by circumstances,
place and time.[/quote]
Source :
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Recall on what Marx view on "black" slavery by the "whites"
[quote]"Without slavery, North America, the most progressive of
countries, would be transformed into a patriarchal country. Wipe
out North America from the map of the world and you will have
anarchy— the complete decay of modern commerce and civilization.
Abolish slavery and you will have wiped America off the map of
nations.10- Karl Heinrich Marx
What Marx was saying in effect was that Negro slaves were needed
to produce raw cotton; cotton was the basic raw material of
modern capitalist industry; therefore, Negro slavery was
necessary to the survival of America and to the survival of
modern civilization.[/quote]
Source : Karl Marx Racist by Nathaniel Weyl, page 75
[quote]Slavery, at its time, represented a great leap beyond
barbarism. Slavery was a necessary stage in the development of
the productive forces, culture and society. As explained by
Hegel: "It is not from slavery, but through slavery that humans
become free". (Hegel, Philosophy of History)[/quote]
Source :
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Try to compare what Marx say with what Hegel say. They both not
consider slavery as absolutely bad for the sake supporting
"material progress"
Memory
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Kill Western Civilization, no Compromise
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Re: Communism
By: antihellenistic Date: April 13, 2023, 7:49 am
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Communism's theory of Dialectical Materialism justify
colonialism for the sake forcing people of a community into
history and western industrial way of life
[center][size=12pt]Marx in Neue Rheinische Zeitung February 1849
Democratic Pan-Slavism [314]
by Frederick Engels
Neue Rheinische Zeitung No. 222
Translated by the Marx-Engels Institute
Transcribed for the Internet by director@marx.org,
1994[/size][/center]
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels on this letter justified "white
German" people's colonization of the "white Slavic" peoples for
the sake their adoption into western industrial living and they
more prefer the Slavs to live under German colonialism rather
than subjugated by the Islamic Ottoman Caliphate
[quote][b][color=black]Cologne, February 14, 1849...Peoples
which have never had a history of their own, which from the time
when they achieved the first, most elementary stage of
civilization already came under foreign sway, or which were
forced to attain the first stage of civilization only by means
of a foreign yoke, are not viable and will never be able to
achieve any kind of independence.[/b][/color]
...
In point of fact, the position of the Germans and Magyars would
be extremely pleasant if the Austrian Slavs were assisted to get
their so-called rights! An independent Bohemian-Moravian state
would be wedged between Silesia and Austria; Austria and Styria
would be cut off by the "South-Slav republic" from their natural
debouche [outlet] - the Adriatic Sea and the Mediterranean; and
the eastern part of Germany would be torn to pieces like a loaf
of bread that has been gnawed by rats! And all that by way of
thanks for the Germans having given themselves the trouble of
civilizing the stubborn Czechs and Slovenes, and introducing
among them trade, industry, a tolerable degree of agriculture,
and culture!
But it is precisely this yoke imposed on the Slavs under the
pretext of civilization that is said to constitute one of the
greatest crimes of the Germans and Magyars! Just listen to this:
"Rightly do you rage, rightly do you breathe vengeance against
the damnable German policy, which has thought of nothing but
your ruin, which has enslaved you for centuries...." p.5
"... The Magyars, the bitter enemies of our race, who number
hardly four millions, have presumed to seek to impose their yoke
on eight million Slavs...." p.9
"I know all that the Magyars have done to our Slav brothers,
what crimes they have committed against our nationality, and how
they have trampled underfoot our language and independence."
p.30
What then are the great, dreadful crimes committed by the
Germans and Magyars against the Slav nationality? We are not
speaking here of the partition of Poland, which is not at issue
here, we are speaking of the "centuries of injustice" supposed
to have been inflicted on the Slavs.
In the north, the Germans have reconquered from the Slavs the
formerly German and subsequently Slav region from the Elbe to
the Warthe; a conquest which as determined by the "geographical
and strategical necessities" resulting from the partition of the
Carolingian kingdom. These Slavs areas have been fully
Germanized; the thing has been done and cannot be undone, unless
the pan-Slavists were to resurrect the lost Sorbian, Wendish,
and Obodritian languages and impose them on the inhabitants of
Leipzig, Berlin and Stettin. But up to now it has never been
disputed that this conquest was to the advantage of
civilization.
In the south, the Germans found the Slav races already split up.
That had been seen to by the non-Slav Avars, who occupied the
region later inhabited by the Magyars. The Germans exacted
tribute from these Slavs and waged many wars against them. They
fought also against the Avars and Magyars, from whom they took
the whole territory from the Ems to the Leitha. Whereas they
carried out Germanization here by force, the Germanization of
the Slav territories proceeded much more on a peaceful basis, by
immigration and by the influence of the more developed nation on
the undeveloped. German industry, German trade, and German
culture by themselves served to introduce the German language
into the country. As far as "oppression" is concerned, the Slavs
were not more oppressed by the Germans than the mass of the
German population itself.
As regards the Magyars, there are certainly also a large number
of Germans in Hungary, but the Magyars, although numbering
"hardly four millions", have never had the occasion to complain
of the "damnable German policy"! And if during eight centuries
the "eight million Slavs" have had to suffer the yoke imposed on
them by the four million Magyars, that alone sufficiently proves
which was the more viable and vigorous, the many Slavs or the
few Magyars!
But, of course, the greatest "crime" of the Germans and Magyars
is that they prevented these 12 million Slavs from becoming
Turkish! What would have become of these scattered small
nationalities, which have played such a pitiful role in history,
if the Magyars and Germans had not kept them together and led
them against the armies of Mohammed and Suleiman, and if their
so-called oppressors had not decided the outcome of the battles
which were fought for the defense of these weak nationalities!
The fate of the "12 million Slavs, Wallachians, and Greeks" who
have been "trampled underfoot by 700,000 Osmans" (page eight),
right up to the present day, does not that speak eloquently
enough?
And finally, what a "crime" it is, what a "damnable policy" that
at a time when, in Europe in general, big monarchies had become
a "historical necessity", the Germans and Magyars untied all
these small, stunted and impotent little nations into a single
big state and thereby enabled them to take part in a historical
development from which, left to themselves, they would have
remained completely aloof! Of course, matters of this kind
cannot be accomplished without many a tender national blossom
being forcibly broken. But in history nothing is achieved
without violence and implacable ruthlessness, and if Alexander,
Caesar, and Napoleon had been capable of being moved by the same
sort of appeal as that which pan-Slavism now makes on behalf of
its ruined clients, what would have become of history! And are
the Persians, Celts, and Christian Germans of less value than
the Czechs, Ogulians, and Serezhans?
Now, however, as a result of the powerful progress of industry,
trade and communications, political centralization has become a
much more urgent need than it was then, in the 15th and 16th
centuries. What still has to be centralized is being
centralized. And now the pan-Slavists come forward and demand
that we should "set free" these half-Germanized Slavs, and that
we should abolish a centralization which is being forced on
these Slavs by all their material interests!
In short, it turns out these "crimes" of the Germans and Magyars
against the said Slavs are among the best and most praiseworthy
deeds which our and the Magyar people can boast in their
history.
Moreover, as far as the Magyars are concerned, it should be
specially pointed out here that, particularly since the
revolution, they have acted too much submissively and weakly
against the puffed-up Croats. It is notorious that Kossuth made
all possible concessions to them, excepting only that their
deputies were not allowed to speak the Croatian in the Diet. And
thus submissiveness to a nation that is counter-revolutionary by
nature is the only thing with which the Magyars can be
reproached.[/quote]
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