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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: rp Date: January 17, 2024, 5:41 pm
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#WATCH | Gujarat: Remains of a 2800-year-old settlement found in
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> It's real guys.......
He was born on the samadhi of The Great Priest King , He is him.
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: rp Date: January 18, 2024, 10:44 pm
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Anyway, I think the "non-proselytizing" image of Hinduism has
been thoroughly destroyed. Hindu nationalists want to make the
world Hindu; although their reasoning for it is somewhat flawed
(convert "Abrahamic monotheistic" lands back to "Pagan
polytheism", ignoring the fact that Hinduism although
polytheistic is not a "Pagan" (animist) religion, and also the
fact that not all monotheism is Abrahamic). This is where the
traditionalist Hindu could help provide better argumentation, as
it seeks to restore not blind paganism but Hinduism throughout
the world. It is unfortunately hampered by the caste system, but
it can be reformed by incorporating new bloodlines into the
system and eventually, done away with altogether by establishing
a new Aryan racial ideal across castes.
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 19, 2024, 1:46 pm
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""Pagan" (animist)"
It is possible to be animist without being pagan, if we count as
fellow prisoners the beings recognized by animists. Most
eventual Gnostics started out as anti-nature animists. It is the
pro-nature animists who became pagans.
"the fact that not all monotheism is Abrahamic"
Historically, India's first contact with monotheism should have
been with Zoroastrianism from Iran. That Hindutva types today
would rather associate monotheism with Abraham is actually a
reflection of their Westernized worldview.
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: rp Date: February 15, 2024, 12:17 am
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While many chessmasters today are Jews and Gentiles, it should
be noted that chess is Aryan in origin:
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Re: Indian attitudes
By: rp Date: January 7, 2025, 9:30 am
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Hindu wewuz nashyonalysts who insist Aryan takeover didn’t
happen are pathetic but let’s not pretend this is a problem
unique to them; prehistory because the record is so vague and
rarely written texts allows Researchers to construct theories
with ethnocentric ends.
Two examples: Marija Gimbutas elevating her own people the
Lithuanians to an absurd preeminence re prehistory; theories now
that Dacians are the origin of the Latin language; most Biblical
scholarship is like this too btw
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you're a jew - lower than dalits. so what are you chirping
about?
whether Aryan homeland is in ancient India (incl.
Afghanistan/eastern Iran) or central asia, the point is that
westoids are most definitely NOT Aryan. westerners are anarya
(the exact opposite).
cope, untouchable
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I agree with your point. Aryanism is about attitudes, not
beliefs. An Aryanist who mistakenly believes that Central Asia
is the Aryan urheimat, but who correctly identified Aryan traits
as Aryan (e.g. old school German indologists) surely has more in
common with us than a Turanist. Additionally, more people are
correctly promoting the narrative that Aryans are indigenous to
India, and although they confusingly conflate the Vedics with
Aryans, this camp still has more in common with us than "Indian"
Turanists, so long as they share our attitudes. However, in
order for us to recognize that Westerners are non Aryan, we must
first stop calling Turanians (or at least Turanian traits/DNA,
even if one mistakenly still claims "Vedic culture" (which in
their mind is referring to post Vedic Hindu culture) is Aryan)
as Aryan, even if we accept that Aryans are not from Central
Asia, as Westerners can (accurately) just point out the high
frequency of Turanian DNA/traits in Western countries compared
to non Western countries and claim they are "Aryan" since the
underlying premise of Turanian haplogroups/attitudes/traits
being "Aryan" was never challenged.
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 7, 2025, 6:29 pm
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"An Aryanist who mistakenly believes that Central Asia is the
Aryan urheimat, but who correctly identified Aryan traits as
Aryan (e.g. old school German indologists) surely has more in
common with us than a Turanist."
You mean someone who believes cereal farming started on the
steppe? Or do you mean someone who believes veganism started
among herders?
The problem with steppe-worship, even if delusionally associated
with Aryan traits, is that it leads to giving present-day
Turandom inhabitants too much positive bias, such as imagining
that they can be easily converted. This goes against our
anti-Duginist drive. What we need today (more pressingly than
ever) is nothing less than a genocidal attitude towards
present-day Turandom inhabitants (exactly the attitude Hitler
had).
"Additionally, more people are correctly promoting the narrative
that Aryans are indigenous to India, and although they
confusingly conflate the Vedics with Aryans, this camp still has
more in common with us than "Indian" Turanists, so long as they
share our attitudes."
This is slightly better, as it at least associates Aryans with
warmer habitats. In any upcoming conflict between warm-evolved
and cold-evolved, we must side with the former.
On the other hand, among those who believe Indian Aryans are
indigenous to India, there are some who reject the idea of other
Aryans indigenous to other regions (in effect believing Indian
Aryans to be the only Aryans in the world). We need to clear
this up also.
Among the above are a subset who, while believing Indian Aryans
are indigenous to India, still manage to feel closer to
present-day Turandom inhabitants than to present-day inhabitants
of other regions with indigenous Aryans via a belief that the
Indian Aryans later migrated into Turandom. I do not consider
these to be Aryanists.
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: rp Date: January 7, 2025, 10:01 pm
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"You mean someone who believes cereal farming started on the
steppe? Or do you mean someone who believes veganism started
among herders?"
Mainly the first category.
"The problem with steppe-worship, even if delusionally
associated with Aryan traits, is that it leads to giving
present-day Turandom inhabitants too much positive bias, such as
imagining that they can be easily converted. This goes against
our anti-Duginist drive. What we need today (more pressingly
than ever) is nothing less than a genocidal attitude towards
present-day Turandom inhabitants (exactly the attitude Hitler
had)."
I agree. The view I was describing was mainly held by
indologists before discovering IVC, so it's no longer as
prevalent.
"On the other hand, among those who believe Indian Aryans are
indigenous to India, there are some who reject the idea of other
Aryans indigenous to other regions (in effect believing Indian
Aryans to be the only Aryans in the world). We need to clear
this up also."
Most of them believe in an "Indocentric" form of Aryan diffusion
(however sometimes using incorrect terminology and calling PIE
diffusion "Aryan").
"Among the above are a subset who, while believing Indian Aryans
are indigenous to India, still manage to feel closer to
present-day Turandom inhabitants than to present-day inhabitants
of other regions with indigenous Aryans via a belief that the
Indian Aryans later migrated into Turandom. I do not consider
these to be Aryanists."
I agree. The people I am talking about (e.g. my father) do not
belong in this category, as they talk about mainly present day
non Turandom inhabitants (e.g. Amerindians) as belonging to
extant Aryan cultures due to Aryan diffusion from India (see
Legend of Atlantis page), rather than explicitly talking about
present day Turandom inhabitants (e. g. Russians).
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: rp Date: January 15, 2025, 8:31 am
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"India is the only place that has continuously remained
non-anthropocentric through the preservation of its culture,
unlike most other places in the world."
My worry is that emigrating Indians often fail to export this
attitude to their destination countries, so that even if India
itself is able to maintain this attitude into the future, it
will have trouble promoting it elsewhere.
The problem is that there is insufficient pride attached to
being non-anthropocentric. It does not seem to be that they are
opposed to displaying pride in general, but they seem to prefer
to display pride in other aspects of India rather than this
one.....
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I agree. On the other hand, there seems to be an inordinate
amount of pride attached to space travel, machinism, scientific
discovery etc....
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Re: Did Civilization Begin in India?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 22, 2025, 7:58 pm
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