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Abortion
By: rp Date: June 26, 2022, 5:44 pm
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It is about time that abortion cease to be associated with
leftism. What are some good True Leftist arguments against
abortion?
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Re: Abortion
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 26, 2022, 8:51 pm
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Prevention is better than cure. With rigorously implemented
state control over conception, the only scenario I can imagine
in which abortion would be required is in the case of severe
deformation:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-face-of-western-civilization/comment-page-5/#comment-173794
[quote]I cannot endorse a policy of abortion even of illegally
conceived children, because the children cannot consent to this
either, any more than they can consent to being conceived in the
first place. (I would only support abortion of children who are
so severely deformed that they would be physically incapable of
expressing a wish for euthanasia after birth.) It is precisely
because abortion is NOT an ethically acceptable option for us
that we must be absolutely merciless in punishing
conception.[/quote]
In the case of illegal conceptions where the conceivers are not
racially dangerous, I would execute the impregnator at once, let
the child be born and then execute the carrier.
In the case of illegal conceptions where the carrier is racially
dangerous, I would execute the carrier with the child still
unborn. While this would result in the child dying also, it is
technically not abortion in the sense that the child was not
sacrificed to convenience the carrier. Instead the child can die
at least knowing that their oppressor did not escape either. The
child will be recognized as a martyr.
The worst scenario is when the impregnator is judged to be
racially dangerous but the carrier is innocent (e.g. ****
victim). I would execute the impregnator and then try to
persuade the carrier to voluntarily commit suicide (with martyr
recognition for both themselves and the unborn child). If
persuasion fails, I would let the child be born but keep the
child under special observation to ensure no further bloodline
transmission occurs.
You are welcome to describe other potential scenarios that we
might have to deal with, and I will try to respond.
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Re: Abortion
By: rp Date: June 26, 2022, 9:00 pm
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"prevention is better than cure"
I agree. The very premise of the abortion debate is
"reproductive rights(!)". In other words, it is not even about
having sex without giving birth to children, but about having
more control about choosing when to give birth to children.
Anyone who would support getting an abortion should be stripped
of their reproductive potential, but I doubt False Leftists
would voluntarily consent to this given that they have made it
clear that they would like to reproduce.
TLDR, state control of reproduction is the strongest
counterargument to "reproductive rights". Yes, we do want to
control people's reproductive "rights".
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Re: Abortion
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 26, 2022, 9:23 pm
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With that said, we must for now reluctuantly ally with False
Leftists against rightists, because we are in the middle of
all-out demographic warfare:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/rep-miller-thanks-trump-victory-040856101.html
[quote]U.S. Rep. Mary Miller immediately drew fierce backlash on
social media and elsewhere at a Saturday night rally with former
President Donald Trump when she credited him for the Supreme
Court overturning Roe v. Wade calling it a “victory for white
life.”
“I want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in
the Supreme Court yesterday,” Miller said, then raised her arms
in an animated clap amid cheers from the crowd, which numbered
in the thousands on a sweltering day in West Central
Illinois.[/quote]
Miller and her supporters must have their bloodlines eliminated
first, before we start even thinking about False Leftist
boodlines.
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Re: Abortion
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: June 27, 2022, 12:21 am
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Doesn't Buddhism prohibit abortion and suicide? In "Buddhism"
version in Thailand, they are considered sins. There are stories
of agonizing souls from suicide and aborted babied haunting who
their supposed parents.
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Re: Abortion
By: Soulhound Date: June 27, 2022, 5:10 pm
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"With that said, we must for now reluctantly ally with False
Leftists against rightists, because we are in the middle of
all-out demographic warfare:"
The reluctance is strong in this one. Remember this:
[quote]Horst Ludwig Georg Erich Wessel (9 October 1907 – 23
February 1930) was a Berlin Sturmführer ("Assault Leader", the
lowest commissioned officer rank) of the Sturmabteilung (SA),
the Nazi Party's stormtroopers. After his killing in 1930, he
was made into a martyr for the Nazi cause by Joseph Goebbels.
Wessel first joined a number of youth groups and extreme
right-wing paramilitary groups, but later resigned from them and
joined the SA, the brownshirted street-fighting stormtroopers of
the Nazi Party. He rose to command several SA squads and
districts. On 14 January 1930, he was shot in the head by two
members of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD). Albrecht "Ali"
Höhler was arrested and charged with his murder. Höhler was
initially sentenced to six years in prison, but was forcibly
taken out of jail and killed by the SA after the Nazis came to
power.
Wessel's funeral was given wide attention in Berlin, with many
of the Nazi elite in attendance. After his death, he became a
major propaganda symbol in Nazi Germany. A march he had written
the lyrics to was renamed the "Horst-Wessel-Lied" ("Horst Wessel
Song"), and became the official anthem of the Nazi Party. After
Adolf Hitler came to national power in 1933, the song became the
co-national anthem of Germany, along with the first verse of the
"Deutschlandlied", also known as "Deutschland über alles".
[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1978-043-14%2C_Horst_Wessel.jpg/220px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1978-043-14%2C_Horst_Wessel.jpg
Most false-leftist types are extremely corrupt...
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Re: Demographic Blueshift
By: guest78 Date: July 5, 2022, 8:19 pm
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SHOCK: Dems Suddenly Winning Every 2022 Poll
[quote]--In a stunning reversal, Democrats are suddenly winning
every major recent 2022 generic ballot poll[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osr7wj0DUGQ
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Re: Abortion
By: Polinc_Socjus Date: July 6, 2022, 2:29 am
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Where life begins is a gray area. The bible says first breath.
The Quran says four months. But abortion still causes harm, and
it should be treated as a medical issue like drug addiction. In
our current situation, criminalization would create more
problems than it would ever solve. The best way to reduce
abortions is comprehensive sex education, contraception, and
better childcare services. That's the real pro-life position.
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Re: Abortion
By: guest63 Date: July 7, 2022, 12:26 pm
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[quote author=Polinc_Socjus link=topic=1392.msg14531#msg14531
date=1657092574]
Where life begins is a gray area. The bible says first breath.
The Quran says four months. But abortion still causes harm, and
it should be treated as a medical issue like drug addiction. In
our current situation, criminalization would create more
problems than it would ever solve. The best way to reduce
abortions is comprehensive sex education, contraception, and
better childcare services. That's the real pro-life position.
[/quote]
You mean by the Bible, you mean the Tanakh[s]Old Testament[/s].
The teachings of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) himself doesn't
specify when life starts.
Even with the [s]Old Testament[/s]Tanakh, Jews and
Judeo-Christians are strongly divided on when life begins. Jews
are some of the most pro-choice people out there, compared to
Judeo-Christians (with few exceptions on both sides).
I'd say once we are Aryanized enough, we (re)-implement asexual
reproduction in humans, and make it mandatory.
In the meantime, I'd say we should also implement reproduction
licensing or a kind of reproduction passport some time in the
near future. They would have to get approval from the government
before having sexual intercourse, let alone reproducing.
I'd even go so far to say implement reproduction theaters, where
the act of procreation or even any kind of sexual intercourse
would be mandated to take place only in theaters, after the
couple who reproduces, is approved to reproduce.
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Re: Abortion
By: guest78 Date: July 7, 2022, 12:37 pm
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I was wondering what people thought of this idea: Since we're
still stuck in the Western capitalist system, perhaps in the
meantime, and while this system still exists, we could offer to
pay people a reward for not reproducing?
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