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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 21, 2023, 12:10 am
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> The idea of a racial nation was National Socialism’s point of
departure, but from the outset it was a comprehensive theory of
applied government designed to funnel the energies of every
German into collective goals. It was similar to Communism in
this respect, and similar also in the sweeping institutional
changes it imposed. In its historical period, however, racial
policy was not the most striking aspect of Nazism. In the 1930s,
the view that race was an essential element of the nation was no
more foreign to Americans than to Germans indeed, no more
foreign than it is to virtually every non-white living today. It
was hardly the distinctive characteristic of the regime. What
was distinctive? What, in fact, did racially aware Americans of
the period–people whose ideas would, today, be called “Nazi”
think of the Third Reich? We have a fascinating answer in Into
the Darkness, the last book by one of the most influential
American champions of racial consciousness, Lothrop Stoddard
(see AR of Jan. 2000 for an account of his life and thought)
--- End Quote ---
Source :
What Makes a Nazi? Lothrop Stoddard, Into the Darkness, Noontide
Press, 2000, $13.95, 311 pp. (facsimile soft-cover reprint) An
American racialist meets the Nazis. reviewed by Thomas Jackson
HTML https://www.amren.com/ar/pdfs/2000/200005ar.pdf
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 29, 2023, 5:11 pm
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Our enemies report:
HTML https://barenakedislam.com/2023/12/28/rumor-has-it-israeli-defense-forces-destroyed-the-popular-hitler-2-store-in-gaza/
HTML https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Screenshot-2023-12-28-at-2.22.30%E2%80%AFAM.png
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> The name of the shop is ‘Hitler,’ and I like him because he
was the most anti-Jewish person,” said then-20-year-old Hijaz
Abu Shanab
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 12, 2024, 6:06 pm
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Enemy article:
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/03/12/caliphate-for-the-uk/
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> One act in the tragedy of war is the destruction of venerated
architecture. Göring’s Luftwaffe tried desperately to bomb St.
Paul’s Cathedral in London during World War II, the bombs
falling all around the famous dome but never finding the target.
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More evidence that National Socialist Germany was anti-Western
(and that Yahweh is pro-Western).
This is what our enemies venerate, and what the Luftwaffe was
trying to destroy:
HTML https://cdn-imgix.headout.com/microbrands-content-image/image/41a656c75d19cb46a27e5e11bb22ae11-St-Paul's-Cathedral-Location.jpg
HTML https://historyreclaimed.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/St-Pauls-Cathedral-scaled.jpeg
HTML https://lp-cms-production.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2021-04/shutterstockRF_577073740.jpg
HAIL HITLER! One day we will finish the job! Not just St Paul's,
but all Western architecture in the world, and more importantly
the bloodlines that came up with such designs!
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/hitler-the-face-of-anti-tribalism/msg16998/#msg16998
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg11512/#msg11512
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg8213/?topicseen#msg8213
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg9452/?topicseen#msg9452
Back to enemy article:
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> Finally, the question every politician asks secretly in that
little part of themselves where they think what they really
mean. Is it good for the Jews? Anti-Semitic violence is
increasing in Britain (although every identitarian group claims
the same thing), and the first Jew to die at pro-Palestinian
hands in the UK — should that happen — may strike a match to a
situation every bit as potentially explosive as the stash of
dynamite with which Guy Fawkes attempted to blow up Parliament
in 1605.
--- End Quote ---
No, it is not good for the Jews.
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> British-Jewish interests are about to discover that there are
different types of power and different ways to exert political
influence than just money.
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At least our enemies openly admit that British and Jewish
interests are aligned.
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: April 7, 2024, 1:55 am
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Hitler's last broadcast speech against Western Turanism
HTML https://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/second-world-war/hitlers-last-broadcast-speech/806932973001
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> However grave the crisis may be at the moment, through our
unalterable will, our readiness for sacrifice, and our own
abilities, we will overcome the crisis. We will endure. It is
not Central Asia that will win but Europe, led by this nation,
which for 1500 years has defended and will continue to defend
Europe against the East our Greater German Reich, the German
nation. - Adolf Hitler, January 30th 1945
--- End Quote ---
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: April 28, 2024, 2:54 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMyzTnIessE
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: July 13, 2024, 10:37 pm
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Recorded Hitler's racial view from A. James Gregor Analysis
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> It is not our purpose here to inspect the scientific
credibility of this alternate volkish tendency any more than it
is to inspect the Nordicist hypothesis. All we have attempted to
establish is that two distinct and mutually incompatible
tendencies in National Socialist thought existed in reality,
although that mutual exclusivity was often obscured by Hitler's
systematic ambiguity of expression. The confusion was further
compounded by Hitler's indisposition, for obvious tactical
reasons, to base an individual's merit exclusively on his
anthropological characteristics. "One cannot," Hitler
maintained, "only infer from the fact of race that certain
capacities will be present, one can also start from the
capacities and infer the race." Rosenberg similarly maintained
that "nothing would be more superficial than to measure a man's
worth by his physical appearance. ... A far more accurate
measure of worth is conduct."*? These qualifications appeared
and reappeared in National Socialist literature. In mid-1936 the
Nationalsozialistische Korrespondenz could maintain, "From his
deeds one can recognize the Nordic man not from the length of
his nose and the color of his eyes."
>
> The tactical necessity for such qualifications were obvious.
National Socialist literature identified Hitler as a
Nordic-Dinaric, and Goebbels (who had precious little of the
Nordic in his appearance) as a Nordic-Mediterranean cross. Some
theorists went so far as to suggest that the amount of Nordic
blood an individual possessed meant nothing in the Nordic scheme
of things because "it has often enough been the case that men of
extremely mixed race ("stark gemischter Rasse") have conceived
and more powerfully grasped these notions than the predominantly
Nordic."*8 These pronouncements, conjoined with Hitler's public
statements that the Nordic "core-people" who had conquered the
land that was to become Germany had merged with the conquered to
create a single, unified community, had given heart to thinkers
in the volkish tradition.
>
> The fact that these two conflicting traditions persisted
unresolved throughout the National Socialist period made
exposition and analysis of doctrine extremely difficult, even
for National Socialists themselves. There were some interesting
attempts to synthesize the two. Among the best perhaps was
Lothar Stengel von Rutkowski's Was ist ein Volk? Der biologische
Volksbegriff. As late as 1942 Rutkowski could indicate that
"race and volk are the very foundations of the Third Reich" and
yet go on to illustrate that the relationship between the two
critical concepts remained problematic and confused in the
theoretical literature. The entire National Socialist concept of
leadership and the unity of the individual and the community,
which afforded substance to its concept of freedom, rested on a
meaningtul account of race and volk and their conceived
interrelationship. If either concept were conceived as primary
and determinant with the other secondary and derived, the entire
structure of justificatory argument was fundamentally altered.
If racial identity were fundamental, political leadership could
only represent members of the same racial fraternity, and
members of the national community who were not members of the
core-people would have to be relegated to second-class
citizenship. If volkish identity were fundamental, then the
concept of leadership rested on the credibility of the evidence
that established the uniformity of will and feeling in the
volkish community that licensed one man to speak for that
community. Moreover. if membership in the volk were determined
by conduct rather than anthropological characteristics, how
could Jews who behaved in the best volkish manner be
legitimately excluded from the historic community? For most
volkish thinkers, the answer was simple. They were not.
Chamberlain argued:
>
> One does not need to have the authentic Hittite nose to be a
Jew... the term Jew rather denotes a special way of thinking and
feeling. A man can very soon become a Jew without being an
Israelite; often he needs only to have frequent intercourse with
Jews, to read Jewish newspapers, to accustom himself to Jewish
philosophy, literature, and art. On the other hand, it is
senseless to call an Israelite a "Jew," though his descent is
beyond question, if he has succeeded in throwing off the fetters
of Ezra and Nehemiah, and if the law of Moses has no place in
his brain, and contempt of others no place in his heart. "What a
prospect it would be," cries Herder, "to see the Jews purely
humanized in their way of thinking!" But a purely humanized Jew
is no longer a Jew because, by renouncing the idea of Judaism,
he ipso facto has left that nationality. . . .79
--- End Quote ---
Source :
Contemporary Radical Ideologies: Totalitarian Thought in the
Twentieth Century, New York: Random House, 1969 by Gregor, A.
James (Anthony James), 1929- page 206 - 208
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: August 27, 2024, 2:28 am
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Hitler's Racial View, from TIKHistory's YouTube account
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> I agree with Richards that Hitler's racism isn't a scientific
racism based on genetics or Darwinism. It may have been
influenced by these concepts, but its origins were clearly in
the mysticism realm. I've say before about gnosticism... but
even if it wasn't that specifically, it's clearly got a
religious or cult-like origin based on purifying the soul of the
people, guided by Providence, a change requiring contradictions
(Aufheben), and a spiritual salvation and rebirth. Hitler is
waging a spiritual war, and National Socialism is a religion -
there's no science here, which is also why they believed in
World-Ice Theory, a concept whose origins I've N discovered
comes from the first known philosophers in Ancient Greece -
Thales.There are a couple of things in Samaan's narrative that I
do agree with though. Darwin clearly wasn't the only guy who
came up with the Theory of Evolution - others were there doing
the work at the time. So it is weird that it's become Darwin's
Theory. And I do agree with Samaan when he says that eugenics is
inherent within the idea of "natural selection" and "survival of
the fittest". Darwinism and Social Darwinism are one and the
same thing.
>
> ...
>
> And at this time, despite the Civil War, black Americans were
still second-class citizens under the law, and the way they were
treated was noted by the Nazis themselves. In Mein Kampf,
Hitler's Second Book, and the Nazi Party Program, the idea of
there being two classes of people, "citizens" and non-citizens,
was laid out with inspiration from American Law. Hitler actually
mentions American racial law in his Second Book. And in Nazi
texts from the time where they explained the concept of
citizenship, they made reference to American racial laws,
stating in one instance that "America possesses a proud
consciousness of Gemeinschaft" (community). Whitman makes clear
that the Blood Law - the Third Nuremberg Law - was a copy of an
American law. Now, Whitman makes the case that the language of
the law wasn't a direct copy, but rather a heavily influenced
copy, so there are differences, most-notably the fact that the
Nazis targeted Jews rather than blacks.
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Source :
References: Whitman, "Hitler's American Model," p37, p73,
p123-126, p129.
Did Darwin cause Hitler? (The Eugenics Debate)
HTML https://youtu.be/AWYjBfe0I9s?si=zsHX4Hs-aD_bx08Z
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: August 31, 2024, 12:37 am
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Trueleft's quote on Hitler's racial view confirmed :
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> There is one cardinal principle. This question of the
Germanisation of certain peoples must not be examined in the
light of abstract ideas and theory. We must examine each
particular case. The only problem is to make sure whether the
offspring of any race will mingle well with the German
population and will improve it, or whether, on the contrary (as
is the case when Jew blood is mixed with German blood), negative
results will arise.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
Population and Demographics - Aryanism
HTML https://web.archive.org/web/20180406093509/http://aryanism.net/politics/population-and-demographics/
German version and translated into English with Google Translate
Adolf Hitler's view on Race
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> In all Germanization measures, one should not start from any
kind of abstract collective term, but rather consider in each
individual case whether the person to be Germanized belongs to a
race that could grow into our national identity and improve it,
or whether he or she shows characteristics of a race that, like
Jewish blood, would have a negative effect if mixed with German
blood. If one does not have the firm conviction that individual
Germanization can improve our national identity, one must
refrain from it, no matter how many emotional considerations
speak in favor of it. How many blond, blue-eyed Jews are there
who are always advocates of Germanization?
>
> But it has been clearly demonstrated, particularly in the case
of Jews, that even if their appearance and character were
completely different in one or two generations, they would
clearly coincide and appear in the next.
>
> These considerations had led Hitler to end his particularly
warm relationship with the popular Berlin operetta soubrette
Gretl Slezak at Christmas 1932. Gretl Slezak, the daughter of
the famous Viennese heroic tenor and later German film comedian
Leo Slezak, had become acquainted with Hitler through the
Goebbels family. She was blonde, blue-eyed, a great artist, full
of temperament and as cuddly as a Viennese "Tschapperl", in
other words a partner like Hitler dreamed of. But he could not
get over the fact that she had a Jewish grandmother among her
grandparents and did not even try to conceal this in a
contemporary way. In addition, at Christmas 1932 - not without
the help of his housekeeper, Mrs. Winter-Brunner - his
relationship with Eva Braun in Munich deepened into an intimate,
permanent lifelong relationship. A visit to the armory in Graz
drew his attention to another interesting phenomenon that also
had to be taken into account when taking measures to Germanize
foreign blood. There were around 1,000 suits of armor on display
that were so small that no Styrian or Carinthian could fit into
them today. In his opinion, this was proof that the
representatives of Germanic tribes who had settled in Styria and
Carinthia had not only refreshed the blood there, but had also
asserted themselves with their racially stronger blood. He was
therefore determined to place racially superior military units,
such as Waffen-SS formations, in all areas where the existing
ethnic group was poor and to use them to replenish the blood of
the population. - Adolf Hitler, 12 May 1942
--- End Quote ---
Source :
Hitlers Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier Page 287 - 288
Adolf Hitler Table Talk page 473 - 474
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: August 31, 2024, 7:40 pm
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Hitler's Racial View was different from Himmler's (Part 1)
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> Hitler did not share Himmler’s or Rosenberg’s Nordic-occult
“mysticism”224; nor Himmler’s “primitive biologism.”225 Hitler
remained consistent about this. In reference to the Nordic
cultists in the Party, he told Schemm: “I have expressly and
repeatedly forbidden this sort of thing…[a]ll the rubbish…they
dredge up from German prehistory! Then they read Nietzsche with
15-year-oldboys and, using incomprehensible quotations, paint a
picture of the superman, exhorting the boys: ‘That is you—or
that is what you are to become.’” He went on to conclude, “We
Germans in particular…must avoid anything that works to create
even more divisiveness.”226 Recent advances in lip reading
technology have shown that this was precisely how he felt.227
Albert Speer also argued that Hitler and Himmler had very
different ideas about race and culture.228
>
> ...
>
> Neither Christian nor conservative, Hitler maintained that God
created Germany and put the Germans into conflict, not with
similar competitors, but against a predatory and corrupting
evil: an evil whose victory meant the destruction of the human
world. The Germans were a Volk, as were the other peoples of
Europe and the world. Each Volk had unique qualities that
differentiated it from any other Volk. When a Volk recognized
and emphasized these qualities, it was successful and
prosperous; when a Volk neglected these qualities, it broke up
into smaller unsuccessful groups. The blood that is the nexus
between members of a Volk is not a simple biological fact but is
a spiritual connection that transcends the mere material.
Indeed, Hitler used the word, Volksgenossen, to address his
fellow Germans: the term has the force of “blood-related
comrades in life.” True Volksgenossen dealt with each other in a
manner Hitler described as Volksgemeinshaft indicating an open,
cooperative, selfless family, with loving ways. Such a way of
life was possible only if a Volk had sufficient Lebensraurn,
living area for crops and natural resources. Since there was
only so much land in the world, different Volk were in fierce
competition with other Volkforfavorable lands and those peoples
who failed to gain and hold good lands would perish and those
who did gain the best lands would survive and prosper. Thus, God
made the world and this is good, according to Hitler.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
1. The Essential Hitler Speeches And Commentary Max Domarus
(Author), Patrick Romane (Editor), Jr. Sydnor, Charles W.
(Foreword) page 133
HTML https://archive.org/details/TheEssentialHitlerSpeechesAndCommentary1/page/n151/mode/2up
2. Kuzniar-Clark - Black Nazis II Ethnic Minorities and
Foreigners in Hitler's Armed Forces page 133
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: August 31, 2024, 7:47 pm
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Hitler's Racial View was different from Himmler's (Part 2)
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> There was nothing new about his use of such terminology. In
this in stance as well, it was clearly Hitler’s intent to put an
end to the preposterous ideas of Rosenberg and Himmler. Their
importunate efforts to revive a Wotan cult had long been a thorn
in the side of Hitler. Their attempts consisted of constructing
sites for the worship of mystical Germanic cults with the goal
of exchanging Christian rituals for “Nordic” consecration
ceremonies—including different marriage and burial rites. Such
aspirations could only detract from what Hitler believed to be
the crucial mission of National Socialism: to expand upon and
maintain its power base.
>
> Starting from the assumption of the pernicious “mysticism of
Christianity,” he announced that the “cultural work of the
German Volk” strove to fulfill “one mission” [Hitler’s]. This
undertaking must perforce be achieved in the pursuit of the
commands issued by “one spirit”—which, of course, was again that
of Hitler. The “subversion by occult mystics in search of an
afterlife” could not be tolerated. Cult facilities, cult sites,
cult performances and rituals were dangerous. There must be only
one teaching of a “volkisch” and political” nature and the
“brave fulfillment of the duties entailed.”
>
> While Hitler did not mention the names Rosenberg or Himmler,
everyone knew that the admonishment was aimed specifically at
these two adherents of mysticism. Hitler detailed the following
considerations:
>
> In this period of the most inward orientation, Christian
mysticism demanded an approach to the solution of structural
problems and hence to an architecture whose design not only ran
contrary to the spirit of the time but also helped produce these
mysterious dark forces that made the people increasingly willing
to submit themselves to cosmopolitism. The germinating
resistance to this violation of the freedom of the spirit and
the will of man that lasted for centuries immediately found an
outlet in the forceful expression of a new form of artistic
design. The cathedrals’ mystical narrowness and somberness gave
way to more generous room and light, reflecting the increasingly
free spirit of the time. More and more the mystical twilight
gave way to light. The uncertain and probing transition to the
twentieth century finally led to the crisis we face today and
that will find its resolution in one way or another.
>
> And in this manner the cultural evolution of a Volk resem bles
that of the Milky Way. Amongst countless pale stars a few suns
radiate. However, all suns and planets are made of the same one
material, and all of them observe the same laws. The entire
cultural work of a Volk must not only be geared toward
fulfillment of one mission, but this mission must also be
pursued in one spirit. National Socialism is a cool and highly
reasoned approach to reality based upon the greatest of
scientific knowledge and its spiritual expression. As we have
opened the Volk’s heart to these teachings, and as we continue
to do so at present, we have no desire of instilling in the Volk
a mysticism that transcends the purpose and goals of our
teachings.
>
> Above all, National Socialism is a Volk Movement in essence
and under no circumstances a cult movement! Insofar as the
enlightenment and receptivity of our Volk demand the use of
certain methods, which by now have become part of its
traditions, these methods are rooted in experience and
realizations that were arrived at by exclusively pragmatic
considerations. Hence it will be useful to make these methods
part of our heritage at a later date. They have nothing to do
with other borrowed methods or expressions derived from other
viewpoints that have to this date constituted the essence of
cults. For the National Socialist Movement is not a cult
movement; rather, it is a volkisch and political philosophy that
grew out of considerations of an exclusively racial nature. This
philosophy does not advocate mystic cults but rather aims to
cultivate and lead a Volk determined by its blood.
>
> Therefore we do not have halls for cults but halls for the
Volk. Nor do we have places for worship but places for assembly
and squares for marches. We do not have cult sites but sports
arenas and play areas. And it is because of this that our
assembly halls are not bathed in the mystical twilight of cult
sites but rather are places of brightness and light of a
beautiful and practical nature. In these halls, no cult rituals
take place; they are exclusively the site of Volk rallies of the
type that we conducted in the years of our struggle, that we
have become accustomed to and which we shall preserve in this
manner.
>
> Hence the National Socialist Movement will not tolerate
subversion by occult mystics in search of an afterlife. They are
not National Socialists but something different, and in any
event, they represent something that has nothing to do with us.
At the heart of our program you will not find any mysterious
presentiments; rather you will find succinct realization and
hence open avowal. Since we place the sustenance and securing of
a creature created by God at the center of this realization and
avowal, we sustain God’s creation, and it is in this manner that
we serve this will. We do not do so at a new cult site bathed in
mysterious twilight but rather in the open for the Lord to see.
> There were ages when twilight was the prerequisite for the
propagation of certain teachings. In this day and age, however,
light is the prerequisite if our work is to succeed. God have
mercy on him who attempts to subvert our Movement and our state
by insisting upon convoluted orders or introducing vague
mystical elements to them. It suffices for this lack in clarity
to be contained in words only.
>
> It is already dangerous to order the construction of a
so-called cult site because this already entails the necessity
of coming up with cult games and rites at a later date. The only
cult we know is that of a cultivation of the natural and hence
of that which God has willed. We stand in complete and un¬
conditional humility before the divine laws as revealed to man.
>
> These laws we respect, and our prayer is one of brave
fulfillment of the duties entailed. We cannot be held
responsible for acts of worship; after all, that is the domain
of the churches!
>
> Therefore, truly great solutions to the problems of
architecture today can be found only if architecture is charged
with great and timely tasks. To abandon this principle would
render the undertaking hideous. The attempts at resolution would
become artificial, dishonest, and wrong, and hence would lose
their significance for the present and future.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
1. The Essential Hitler: Speeches and Commentary by Max Domarus
(Author), Patrick Romane (Editor), Jr. Sydnor, Charles W. page
158 – 160
HTML https://archive.org/details/TheEssentialHitlerSpeechesAndCommentary1/page/n175/mode/2up<br
/>
2. Kuzniar-Clark - Black Nazis II Ethnic Minorities and
Foreigners in Hitler's Armed Forces page 133
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