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Historian View that Hitler was Pro-British and her Colonial
Empire Debunked
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 4, 2022, 12:27 am
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Let's see the written Hitler's thoughts on Book "Political
Testament of Adolf Hitler Hitler-Bormann Documents as taken down
by Martin Bormann". Recorded on 4th February 1945. 2 months 23
days, or 85 days before his honorable suicide on 30th April
1945.
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Transcript :
"The laws of nature follow a logic which does not
necessarily always conform to our own ideas of logic. We
ourselves were disposed to compromise. We were ready to
throw our forces into the scales for the preservation of the
British Empire; and all that, mark you, at a time when, to
tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically inclined to
the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant islanders.
Later on, the Germans will be pleased that they did not
make any contribution to the survival of an out-dated state
of affairs for which the world of the future would have
found it hard to forgive them. We can with safety make one
prophecy: whatever the outcome of this war, the British
Empire is at an end. It has been mortally wounded. The
future of the British people is to die of hunger and
tuberculosis in their cursed island." - Adolf Hitler's recorded
conversation on 4th February 1945
The conclusion is, Hitler's speeches which tend to support
Britain and her colonial empire were just pragmatic political
program and not the real goal of Hitler's regime and National
Socialism ideology.
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Hitler against Western Civilization
DIR By: guest30
Date: July 18, 2022, 12:28 am
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Let's see the content from the pages which photographed below
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Photographed on 2th July 2022, 11 : 37 Jakarta Time
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Photographed on 2th July 2022, 11 : 37 Jakarta Time
Important Transcript :
“The World War had as one of its consequences that, wherever
capitalism reigns, America has supremacy. And since America
suffers from industrial overproduction, it will exploit this
supremacy to dispose of its overproduction. That concerns
everyone—Germany as well as France, England as well as South
America, China, and Japan. Only where capitalism has been
broken, abolished, replaced by something new does America’s
power stop.
Herein lies our greatest mission and at the same time our best
chance! Here is the bedrock where we may cast anchor. From there
an anti-industrial world can be erected.” - Adolf Hitler
Source : Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant halaman 160,
161
To make this happen, we must defeat [b]Liberalism and Communism,
and Western Civilization, which it's people forcing everyone to
be an industrialist machinist[/b]
Compare what Hitler envisage to what Karl Marx envisage
"Without slavery, North America, the most progressive of
countries, would be transformed into a patriarchal country. Wipe
out North America from the map of the world and you will have
anarchy— the complete decay of modern commerce and civilization.
Abolish slavery and you will have wiped America off the map of
nations." - Karl Heinrich Marx
Defeat Cultural Marxism
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: July 19, 2022, 7:42 am
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--- Quote ---
> How were the communists able to promote an anti-ethnocentric
worldview in predominantly white countries at the same exact
time as the National Socialists then?
--- End Quote ---
I won't disagree that certain historic NS writings on "race"
were too bogged down by ethnocentrism at times, but Soviet
policy was explicitly ethnocentric as well. Perhaps much more so
than Germany, arguably:
--- Quote ---
> Through Joseph Stalin's theory on nationality, borders were
drawn to create national homelands for various recognized ethnic
groups.[4] Early republics like the Kazakh ASSR and the
Turkestan ASSR in Central Asia were dissolved and split up to
create new union republics.[5] With delimitation came the policy
of indigenization which encouraged the de-Russification of the
country and promotion of minority languages and culture.[6] This
policy also affected ethnic Russians and was particularly
enforced in ASSRs where indigenous people were already a
minority in their own homeland, like the Buryat ASSR.[7]
Language and culture flourished and ultimately institutionalized
ethnicity in the state apparatus of the country.[8]
> [...]
> By the 1930s the mood shifted as the Soviet Union under Joseph
Stalin stopped enforcing indigenization and began purging
non-Russians from government and intelligentsia. Thus, a period
of Russification set in.[6] Russian became mandatory in all
areas of non-Russian ethnicity and the Cyrillic script became
compulsory for all languages of the Soviet Union.[11] The
constitution stated that the ASSRs had power to enforce their
own policies within their territory,[12] but in practice the
ASSRs and their titular nationalities were some of the most
affected by Stalin's purges and were strictly controlled by
Moscow.[13] From 1937, the "bourgeois nationalists" became the
"enemy of the Russian people" and indigenization was
abolished.[11]
> [...]
> When the Soviets gained the upper hand and began recapturing
territory in 1943, many minorities of the country began to be
seen as German collaborators by Stalin and were accused of
treason, particularly in southern Russia.[15] Between 1943 and
1945 ethnic Balkars,[16] Chechens,[17] Crimean Tatars,[18]
Ingush,[17] and Kalmyks[19] were deported en masse from the
region to remote parts of the country. Immediately after the
deportations the Soviet government passed decrees that
liquidated the Kalmyk ASSR on 27 December 1943,[19] the Crimean
ASSR on 23 February 1944,[20] the Checheno-Ingush ASSR on 7
March 1944,[17]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republics_of_Russia#History
--- Quote ---
> Besides national republics, oblasts, and okrugs, several
hundred national districts (with populations between 10,000 and
50,000) and several thousand national townships (population 500
to 5,000) were established. In some cases this policy required
voluntary or forced resettlement in both directions to create a
compact population.
> [...]
> In the 1920s and the 1930s, the policy of national
delimitation, which assigned national territories to ethnic
groups and nationalities, was followed by nation-building,
attempting to create a full range of national institutions
within each national territory. Each officially recognized
ethnic minority, however small, was granted its own national
territory where it enjoyed a certain degree of autonomy, in
addition to national elites.[5] A written national language was
developed (if it had been lacking), national language planning
was implemented, native teachers were trained, and national
schools were established.
> [...]
> Following the introduction of the Soviet passport system in
1932, each adult citizen's ethnicity (Russian:
национальность)
was necessarily recorded in their passport. Where parents'
nationalities differed, a citizen was able to choose which
nationality to register in their passport.[37] This practice did
not exist in the Russian empire and has been abolished in the
Russian Federation
>
--- End Quote ---
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--- Quote ---
> Map showing the ethnic republics of the Russian Federation
(2008) that succeeded the national territories of Russian SFSR
(pre-1990)
--- End Quote ---
Map showing all the former ethnic republics:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liquidated_national_territorial_administrative_units_of_the_Russia.jpg
--- Quote ---
> How Stalin Created Some of the Post-Soviet World's Worst
Ethnic Conflicts
> [...]
> Terry Martin, director of the Davis Center for Russian and
Eurasian Studies at Harvard University and coauthor of "A State
Of Nations: Empire And Nation-Building In The Age Of Lenin And
Stalin," agrees, but adds that the Soviets created problems from
the beginning by trying to draw borders too precisely along
ethnic lines in places where ethnic identities were still
evolving.
>
> "If they did anything that created ethnic conflict, they
created ethnic conflict by trying to draw the borders too
precisely," he says. "That is, they created a lot of ethnic
mobilization around borders in the 1920s as people lobbied to
get one border and lobbied various people to identify with their
nationality and not with another in areas where nationality was
very fluid, like Central Asia. Most of the modern nationalities
that we have [today] hadn't even been formed yet."
--- End Quote ---
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Stalin even created the first Israel:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
Instead of Hitler trying to create provinces for each of the 5
or so "sub-races" that existed in Germany, Hitler's goal was to
unify them into something new.
--- Quote ---
> He was already struggling in a war where everyone was
attacking him on all sides, so he really had nothing to lose by
openly promoting something more similar to what we promote now.
--- End Quote ---
Hitler was not a biologist, so I do not blame him for not having
a sufficient understanding to precisely express the ideology
which he intuitively felt.
Here is Walter Gross attempting to clarify the official stance
of the party regarding racial matters in 1939, from Der deutsche
Rassengedanke und die Welt. This was just as the party was
trying to distance itself from Nordicism.
--- Quote ---
> Germany goes here in 1933 and introduces a completely new
concept into law and international law, namely a classification
of people according to their descent from a racial point of
view. In practice, we were treading Judaism, and quite
exclusively Judaism, because we did not have a foreign race
problem of a different kind in Germany to a significant extent
at that time, nor did we have any contact with foreign breeds
outside our borders, which would be significantly impaired by
the German racial laws. First of all, it is a conflict between
us and Judaism. But for reasons that matter here, we
deliberately did not speak of Jews but of non-Aryans in the
first legal measures (such as the law on the restoration of the
professional civil service) and thus put the whole problem on a
much broader basis than, for example, the conflict between Jews
and Germans.
> [...]
> But a very serious situation arises from the fact that now
other peoples and states feel directly attacked and defamed in
their honor and dignity as a nation, namely as a non-Aryan
nation, by the German racial rule and the segregation from the
racial alien. I do not want to count all the peoples and
countries with whom there have been serious debates for this
reason. It is appropriate to point out that, for example, the
whole world of the Far East was for a long time under the
impression that the German in his new National Socialist
conception described it as non-Aryan, and that he considered the
non-Aryans as an inferior rabble. So: The German distinguishes
us as inferior, secondary people and himself as the actual
bearer of culture. Suffice it to say that such a conception
could understandably cause infinite excitement and hatred
against this new Nazi Germany among proud, self-confident,
reverent national peoples, such as Japan. We have had the same
phenomenon in India, for example, and we have experienced it in
many Near Eastern peoples.
>
> All this manifested itself in two ways. Once in a mood-based
bias against the Third Reich, against Germanness in general.
> [...]
> sooner or later this government was forced by its own people
to ask Berlin now, so to speak, what is actually going on about
it: Whether their people are actually regarded and treated as
second-class people and semi-savages because of their race and
discord? This has indeed led to diplomatic steps in Berlin at a
time when any tension of any kind on this globe, if it was not
absolutely inevitable, has been annoying, unpleasant and
actually unbearable.
> [...]
> What could we do about this tendency to see in the German
racial idea a fundamental defamation of people of other races?
We could do nothing but repeatedly present the German racial
idea in its actual form with calm and superiority and make it
clear to people that the essence of racial knowledge is not the
evaluation or even the devaluation of other groups of people in
this world, but nothing more than the cool, yes I would like to
say scientific, statement, that there are different groups of
people in this world and that there is primarily no talk of an
evaluation at all, that the statement: You are of a different
race towards us--first contains no more and no less value
judgment than the objective observation of a person who walks
through the forest and says: "It is not only trees in the
forest, but this and this is an oak tree." -- This is not an
insult or a value judgment.
> [...]
> We are sometimes there--that I must also pronounce--disturbed
by clumsiness over even stupidity in our own country, when
somewhere a wild fool produced his ideas of race, or that if we
had just made it painstakingly clear to some people that we
respect and honor them and that we completely concede to them
his peculiarity on the basis of his bloody and racial internal
legality, with one fool in his leaflet or book wrote that this
people was racially inferior, that they were under cow and
donkey, that their qualities were wickedness and uncleanliness,
and what do I know. With such stupid derailments, not only
foreign-race peoples in distant parts of the world, but even
neighboring peoples in Europe, often even historically,
fatefully determined friends of National Socialist Germany, have
sometimes been irritated and alienated to the blood. I say
openly that the two great peoples and powers who first began
with us the political-organizational struggle against all the
forces of decay and decline in the world, namely Italy and
Japan, have shown an infinitely strong reserve against the
German racial idea for years, out of misunderstanding, but
unfortunately also partly as a result of the nonsense of
individual irresponsible people in our own people, because they
believed that the content of this German racial idea was an
immediate degradation and defamation of their own national and
cultural values.
> [...]
> If today we can speak with the Japanese in this field in a
completely clear and unbiased way: you are like this and we are
different, we are deeply different in nature, -- then this will
never give us a single hint of cause for friction and
explosions, we will precisely out of respect for otherness from
the outset remove the possibility from the outset, which can
give a dilution, mixing and blurring of these natural boundaries
between us, and in the end there remains the deep respect for
the culture of a very nation that has become a strong, proud and
great nation out of completely different bloody foundations and
completely different historical conditions and is thus somewhere
closely related to ourselves, which, of course, we possess and
must preserve other styles and other forms from our inner racial
law and racial content.
>
> Exactly the same thing, as you know, has occupied us for a
long time in the position on fascism and Italy. All the greater
is our concern that the Italian people have now lost all
sensitivity to the racial idea of Germany not only in this area,
but are even the first other people to have established their
own racial idea, which is directly related to ours, and has thus
moved into the common front in the struggle for the racial idea.
--- End Quote ---
I would say Gross's apparent ethnocentrism may be arising from a
failure to fully pry apart nationality, ethnicity, and "race".
Particularly in the last 2 paragraphs. In reality, racially, the
Japanese are deeply similar to Germans (which is why they were
Aryans allied with Germany). In terms of ethnicity, obviously
they are different, but this is irrelevant for political
matters. In terms of nationality, culture, and the corresponding
"national idea" which Japan must base their nationalism
on--their history and culture are very different from Germany's,
so they must have a distinct "national idea". This
interpretation is more obvious in the final paragraph about
Italians. Italians are, ethnically, not too distantly-related
from Germans, yet they have an entirely different "racial idea"
than Germany.
If Gross was around today, perhaps he would have worded things
more precisely. But the core of what he is saying is that (1)
different "peoples" exist, (2) different "peoples" are not
inferior to Germans simply for being different (i.e.
anti-ethnocentrism), and (3) non-Aryans are inferior (i.e. Jews,
specifically, and exclusively in the case of Germany. Not
"Rhineland bastards", but exclusively Jews). Logically, Aryans
and non-Aryans must be qualitatively similar to each other
within each category, regardless of differences in ethnicity or
nationality.
In A. James Gregor's article on NS and race, he explains
similarly:
--- Quote ---
> In effect this last phase of National Socialist race theory
was a complete rejection of Guenther's Nordicism.
> [...]
> We are told that "the races distinguish themselves not through
their characteristics; for the same characteristics can be found
in different races…For example a Mediterranean can be as
courageous as a Nordic, an Alpine as musical as a Dinaric, an
East Balt as cunning as a Nordic. On the other hand not all
Mediterraneans are courageous, nor all Nordics. But when a
Mediterranean is courageous he is courageous in a 'Mediterranean
fashion' as a Nordic would be courageous in a 'Nordic
fashion'."[102]
>
> Here is an entirely different racism, an entirely different
Nordicism than that of Guenther and his followers. Here there
was no question of general inferiority - it was a question of
maintaining an ideal as an archetype for an entire civilization.
Germany had a Nordic archetype; its art form was Nordic; its
literature and philosophy, its music and institutions were
inspired by Nordic ideals. Each German was bequeathed this
patrimony from the original racial elements, now inextricably
mixed into the German Nation, among which the Nordic
predominated. It was not a question of intrinsic worth, national
and racial superiority and inferiority tearing asunder the
peoples of Europe. There is no transcendental standard by which
to evaluate racial differences.[103] A people characteristically
Mongolian treasures a Mongolian heritage and ideal, a
Mediterranean people a Mediterranean one.[104]
--- End Quote ---
But to Hitler, "Nordics", "Alpines", etc. are not truly races.
Aryan is a race. The so-called racial classifications made by
academics are just ancient ethnic groups or nationalities whose
mixture gave rise to the modern nationalities. The grand task is
understanding the traits which have been inherited by a modern
nationality and promoting the noble ones. Germany, Italy, and
Japan were formed from different historic mixtures, and it was
not possible to judge whether one of those mixtures was better
than the other, since they all had positive and negative traits.
Today, we know now the racial process which likely gave rise to
noble traits in the first place (selection for a farming
lifestyle) and on this basis we can see the underlying noble
characteristics in Germany, Italy, and Japan are not so
different after all.
--- Quote ---
> Although I'm sure plenty of white nationalists would argue
that Hitler was simply slandering Eastern Europeans for
propagandistic purposes, since they were warring against him
--- End Quote ---
The term Underman was originally used to describe the quality of
individuals/nations which had succumbed to Communism (National
Socialists did not coin the term). However, National Socialists
consistently used this definition. In the image below, note that
this type of anti-Communist/anti-Underman propaganda was
translated into multiple Slavic languages (for nations allied
with Germany). The fact that Communism's hold was strongest on
Slavic nations may have been a coincidence, or, as we would
assert, due to Turanism...
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Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: July 21, 2022, 4:56 pm
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Just did some digging and apparently the NSDAP considered jazz
'degenerate' because it had 'Negro' and 'Jewish' origins. While
this is true, I assume this isn't the actual reason why jazz was
considered degenerate, as the laws enforcing jazz were not
widely enforced, and as you probably already know, Goebbels had
his own propaganda band known as 'Charlie and His Orchestra.'
What did Hitler and Goebbels really think about jazz? Did they
consider it 'degenerate' and 'jungle music'?
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 21, 2022, 9:50 pm
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_music
--- Quote ---
> Degenerate music (German: Entartete Musik, German
pronunciation: [ɛntˈaʁtɛtə
muˈziːk]) was a label applied in the 1930s by the
government of Nazi Germany to certain forms of music that it
considered harmful or decadent. The Nazi government's concerns
about degenerate music were a part of its larger and
better-known campaign against degenerate art (German: Entartete
Kunst). In both cases, the government attempted to isolate,
discredit, discourage, or ban the works.
> ...
> Jewish composers such as Felix Mendelssohn and Gustav Mahler
were disparaged and condemned by the Nazis.[1] In Leipzig, a
bronze statue of Mendelssohn was removed. The regime
commissioned music to replace his incidental music to A
Midsummer Night's Dream.[2]
> ...
> From the Nazi seizure of power onward, these composers found
it increasingly difficult, and often impossible, to get work or
have their music performed. Many went into exile (e.g., Arnold
Schoenberg, Kurt Weill, Paul Hindemith, Berthold Goldschmidt);
or retreated into "internal exile" (e.g., Karl Amadeus Hartmann,
Boris Blacher); or ended up in the concentration camps (e.g.,
Viktor Ullmann, or Erwin Schulhoff).
--- End Quote ---
Let's listen to these composers!
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEkcP8lZvZA
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8LZ43LA2nY
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXhAtBT57zA
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Q-4JcqEa8
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkFbrUEhSCc
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQLoIlUnu8
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0agKt_ZKBg
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mvuHJIZGg
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkKwuCnr4JY
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ZZ4SkzCBw
Most music considered degenerate by National Socialism was
WESTERN CLASSICAL MUSIC! But somehow this is overlooked.....
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: July 22, 2022, 8:31 am
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I'll take that as a 'Hitler and Goebbels actually enjoyed jazz
music and 'historians' like Lusane and Kater are lying when they
say they hated jazz music and wanted it banned.'
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 22, 2022, 8:09 pm
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The only NSDAP members who definitely disliked jazz:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negermusik
--- Quote ---
> On 4 May 1930, Wilhelm Frick, the Reich's newly appointed
Minister of the Interior and Education for Thuringia made a
decree called "Against the Negro Culture – For Our German
Heritage".[8][9]
--- End Quote ---
Frick again! We have covered him before:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/summer-cleaning/comment-page-1/#comment-176176
--- Quote ---
> “A supplementary decree issued on 26 November 1935 extended
the law to “Gypsies, Negroes, and their bastards.
> Also non Aryans could not be considered for the Ahnenpass.
> Africans were not considered part of the Aryan race, Africans
could not join.the Sturmabteilung”
>
> The decree was established by Wilhelm Frick, a minister under
Hitler’s rule, and was quickly sacked from power and influence
by Hitler after he established that decree.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Frick
--- Quote ---
> His power was greatly reduced in June 1936 when Hitler named
Himmler the Chief of German Police, which effectively united the
police with the SS. On paper, Frick was Himmler's immediate
superior. In fact, the police were now independent of Frick's
control, since the SS was responsible only to Hitler.[13][14]
--- End Quote ---
Who else? Back to first link:
--- Quote ---
> Eugen Hadamovsky, who purportedly stated:
>
> Mit dem heutigen Tag spreche ich ein endgültiges Verbot des
Negerjazz für den gesamten Deutschen Rundfunk aus. (As of today,
I decree a definitive ban on the negro jazz for the entire
German Radio.).[8][12]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Hadamovsky
--- Quote ---
> Goebbels was not entirely pleased with him, as is evident by
many references in Goebbels' diaries.
--- End Quote ---
And again, as with general hostility towards "blacks", hostility
towards jazz actually predated the National Socialist era,
therefore it would be more accurate to consider Frick and
Hadamovsky as carrying over these attitudes from the Weimar era:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_jazz
--- Quote ---
> After the Great War in Germany, Negrophobia coalesced with the
preexisting anti-Semitism and flourished, especially since Jews
were often depicted as having a racial affinity with blacks,
possessing similar objectionable qualities. Jews were prevalent
figures in new art forms such as jazz, cabaret, and film. Often,
a great number of jazz band leaders were Jews, many from Eastern
Europe, including Bela, Weber, Efim Schachmeister, Paul Godwin,
and Ben Berlin.[6]
> ...
> the deeply engrained and institutionalized racism of German
society was not tolerant of blacks. For instance, many
nationalistic student fraternities rejected student members who
were of color or married to women of color. Furthermore, in
1932, all the conservative musicians and critics were
denigrating jazz as a product of "Negro" culture, which provided
the government the fodder to forbid the hiring of black
musicians. Thus, for many African-American artists, popularity
was a mere facade of a grim reality of being seen as a "racial
alien". One critic even went as far as to call jazz a mere
"negro noise", having only one purpose: "to introduce
obscenities into society."[6]
>
> Paul Schewers, a music critic, brought forth crude images of
lewdly dancing black boys and girls in the service of
procreation, implying that the lower forces were always surging
through blacks, overtaking the rational light of morality and
reason the way the white man grasped it. Undoubtedly, sensuality
has an affinity with dance, and it was pervasive in jazz and in
the lyrics, but this became a means of judging it as void of
morality, and even aesthetics, reduced to being inferior to
"high German culture".[6]
> ...
> This burgeoning hatred of jazz and its subculture infected the
entire Nazi party structure that Adolf Hitler and his followers
were trying so desperately to erect.[6]
--- End Quote ---
As for Hitler himself:
--- Quote ---
> Even though he never publicly spoke out against jazz
specifically in the Weimar Republic, one can infer that Hitler's
sentiments toward jazz must have had strong ties to his
perception of racial hierarchy, with jazz, not surprisingly,
being at the very bottom.[6]
--- End Quote ---
No, one cannot infer this! If anything, that Hitler never
explicitly criticized jazz despite how politically easy it would
have been for him to do so gives us a reason to infer in the
opposite direction. There is also no information that I have
come across that positively suggests Hitler enjoyed jazz
personally. However, it is not necessary to personally be a fan
of something in order to not be hostile towards that thing.
Another possibility is that Hitler disliked jazz for different
reasons than the rightists did, but avoided talking about it in
order to not cause confusion. It is actually possible to
criticize jazz from the left, by arguing that it is an
improvement over Western classical music but still shares some
of its values, such as gratuitous
complexity/decorativeness/showboating, and therefore needs
further purification. From this perspective, the musical
developments of the Counterculture era can be viewed positively
as the removal of more Western aesthetical assumptions from
composition. (I myself fall into this camp.)
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: July 23, 2022, 11:45 am
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I have also read that Goebbels made several attempts to create a
German version of jazz and swing due to popular demand for music
that was more 'swinging'. His results were varied, but Charlie
and His Orchestra lasted for the entire duration of the war.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
DIR By: guest30
Date: August 1, 2022, 7:31 pm
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Hitler's Diplomatic Decolonization :
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“Let us not lose sight of an alliance with the Arab League. We
Germans have gotten into the habit of looking for friends only
in Europe — if possible, among people of the same race. Perhaps
that’s a mistake. Perhaps it’s much easier to find friends among
other races. If the Arabs know that we—that is, a new
Germany—can offer them understanding, support, and firm backing
in their own struggles for freedom, and that we consider them
competent to enter into alliances—welcome them, in fact—such a
realization might have significant repercussions on our position
in Europe as well. Furthermore, an alliance of interests between
Germany and the Arabic-Semitic race might also have far-reaching
significance for our relations with the millions of the African,
Indian, and yellow peoples" - Adolf Hitler
Source : Wagener - Hitler Memoirs of a Confidant page 271 (PDF
format's page) paragraph 4 and page 272 (PDF format's page)
paragraph 1
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Re: Hitler: The Face of Anti-Tribalism
DIR By: guest30
Date: August 14, 2022, 11:24 pm
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The differences between how Hitler's soldiers and the Western
Allied soldiers treated the "colored" people was on how they
treat them during the war.
The Hitler's soldiers placed the "colored" people's volunteers
on the battles which less brutal. Like how the "Free Arabian
Legion"'s soldiers placed on a battle against the Greece
partisans on the territory of Greece. The "SS Handschar" Muslim
legion wo are placed on a battle against the Communist partisans
on the territory of Balkans. The "white" soldiers from Germany
and her other "white" volunteers were kept placed in primary and
large battle, like on Battle of Moscow, Battle of Kursk, Battle
of Normandy, Battle of Italy, and other famous war theatres
The Western powers, like French for example, placed the
"colored" troops on the frontline of battle and got segregrated
from the "white" French counterparts. And they got task to large
battle against the difficult enemy positions. So, the French
"white" troops will saved from large cassualties. During their
succeed on defeating the German troops and pushed them back.
They all got removed from the frontline and changed with the
"white" French troops who almost did not do anything to succeed
the war. That phenomena was happened during "Liberation of
France" during 1944
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