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Re: Re: Western civilization is a health hazard
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 26, 2022, 5:45 pm
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""Africans" not to experience starvation during colonial era."
They did not typically experience starvation in pre-colonial
times! The correct comparison is between pre-colonial and
colonial, not between colonial and post-colonial. Western
colonial powers often set up problems that will emerge over time
in colonies that they are about to withdraw from. Therefore
comparing between colonial and post-colonial is unfair.
Current starvation in former Western colonies is the fault of
the Western colonial powers for making the former colonies
dependent on imports during the colonial era. Did you not read
this post?
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/east-timor/msg13492/#msg13492
[quote]In Portuguese Africa (e.g. Mozambique), the Native Labour
Regulations of 1899 stated that all able bodied men must work
for six months of every year, and that "They have full liberty
to choose the means through which to comply with this
regulation, but if they do not comply in some way, the public
authorities will force them to comply." [16]
Africans engaged in subsistence agriculture on their own small
plots were considered unemployed.[/quote]
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Human Lives and Empathy
By: antihellenistic Date: September 21, 2022, 2:07 am
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Today's view say that anything which improve human comfort
considered as empathy, whereas anything which reduce human's
comfort and happiness considered as "barbaric", "evil", and
"unempathic". What about that? This is the most difficult
argument which we engaged
My only answer is that anything which keep people's alive longer
and want to live longer are bad. Because they will experienced
suffering, boring, and exhaust everyday of their life while they
receive "happiness". If not every day, every month or year, or
maybe more than forty years.
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Re: Human Lives and Empathy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 21, 2022, 3:25 am
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"Today's view say that anything which improve human comfort
considered as empathy"
The correct term for what you are describing is indulgence.
"whereas anything which reduce human's comfort and happiness
considered as "barbaric", "evil", and "unempathic".
The correct term here is anti-indulgent. It is indulgence which
is barbaric. Austerity and asceticism been associated with
personal cultivation and refinement since ancient times.
Anti-indulgence is the truly empathic attitude, as we should
feel guilty to indulge when we remember the cruel victimization
that occurred in the past in order to make indulgence possible
in the present. For example, knowing a comfort-enhancing product
was developed via experimentation on animals (who did not
consent to being experimented upon), we would not want to use
that product even though all the experimentation is now over.
Similarly, what about all the children violently forced into
Western compulsory schooling for the last few centuries just so
that a small fraction of the adults they eventually grew up to
be applied their knowledge (founded on the same compulsory
schooling) to invent comfort-enhancing machines? How can we want
to indulge in modernity when we remember this? And so on.
From the perspective of empathy, anti-indulgence is solidarity
with the victims of violence from the past.
(In contrast, barbarians often do not even remember the victims
of their own initiated violence, let alone victims of violence
initiated by others from long ago.)
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Re: Debate with the Progressives
By: antihellenistic Date: September 21, 2022, 6:36 pm
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I'm already talk to my fellow people online, that progressivism
and industrialism resulting pollution and harming both
environment and community of people outside of us who are being
target of natural exploitation. But they call me as "monkey" and
promoting "theory of fart".
My only answer that the progressivism and industrialism only
harm them with the overtime on learning to be competent on it.
And if they succeed they will be an oppressor to another
communities of people to got the resources from them, for the
sake keep their industrial living alive. And it was not monkey
who are colonized us but the people who humiliate monkey. Have
you got an another answer?
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Re: Debate with the Progressives
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 21, 2022, 8:11 pm
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Can you post screencaps of your recent online debates? It will
be easier to comment if I see what they are saying in full.
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Re: Debate with the Progressives
By: antihellenistic Date: September 21, 2022, 9:35 pm
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I'm talking through voice call unfortunately
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Re: Debate with the Progressives
By: christianbethel Date: July 20, 2023, 6:33 pm
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@antihellenistic What's your Discord name/number?
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