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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 9, 2022, 10:28 pm
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""mentally unstable", "immature", "not grateful", "stuck in the
past", "not want to compete", "jealously""
Do you know who else uses all these exact terms, and when?
Answer: parents trying to crush their offspring's Original
Nobility. This is what you should compare liberals to whenever
they start doing this to us.
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: guest30 Date: June 10, 2022, 8:12 pm
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@90sRetroFan
[quote]""mentally unstable", "immature", "not grateful", "stuck
in the past", "not want to compete", "jealously""
[quote]Do you know who else uses all these exact terms, and
when? Answer: parents trying to crush their offspring's Original
Nobility. This is what you should compare liberals to whenever
they start doing this to us.[/quote][/quote]
That terms always used by the psychologist to educate us. And
also, they say that they will help parents to be more caring and
less oppressive to their children. But they still use that
abusive term. And many childrens who got their treatment have no
problem with that, and also their parents, what about that?
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 10, 2022, 8:33 pm
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"many childrens who got their treatment have no problem with
that"
They are not children any more, but low-age adults. They will
now also call those younger than themselves "immature" etc.. And
in future they will call their own offspring "immature" etc. and
give them the same treatment. This cycle is called tradition.
This cycle is what we are here to break.
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: guest30 Date: June 10, 2022, 8:50 pm
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@90sRetroFan
I already debate with many so-called Nusantara's "tolerant"
leftist who are politically liberal. And their answer only
satire and banning me. Not giving me every single arguments. Any
solutions or alternative? My project now is spreading
information about the danger of Westernization and
democratization (Rightism) and liberalism (Moderatism or
False-Leftism) to every Islamic mosque and their community. And
the bad news is, Nusantara today is dominated by the moderates
and rightist politicians. Leftist Islamic political movement are
seriously targeted by the police and anti-terror authorities.
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 10, 2022, 9:10 pm
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"banning me."
Challenge them to debate on neutral ground where neither side
can ban the other.
Also, you can try debating rightists and see how their response
differs from that of False Leftists.
"Nusantara today is dominated by the moderates and rightist
politicians."
Then they are not Nusantarans, but Indonesians. Only people who
reject Westernization deserve to be called Nusantarans.
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: June 10, 2022, 10:22 pm
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How is the current president of Indonesia, Joko Widodo?
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: guest30 Date: June 11, 2022, 1:56 am
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@Zhang Caizhi
[quote]How is the current president of [s]Indonesia[/s]
Nusantara, Joko Widodo?[/quote]
He democratically elected from 2014 until his limit of
presidency on 2024. And he implementing capitalistic debt-based
economic system which make our people's suffer. And also he let
the liberal organizations which already made and funded by
Western nations operate well. The result is our people character
and behaviour are tend to less good, even bad and evil, because
they are ignorance to empathy. And our people and also
governmental officials tend to politically side with the liberal
West rather than the East, Islamic nations, and China because of
liberal education and their Western education which they got
from college in Western nations. This is immoral and
economically oppressive and contrary to our founding fathers's
ideals which policies is anti Western and oppose colonialism to
the death.
That is why I politically side with the oppressed
true-left-leaning political figures like Habib Mohammad Rizieq
Shihab, Habib Hanif Al-Attas, Habib Muhammad bin Hussein
Al-Attas, Babeh Aldo, Lieus Sungkharisma, Rizal Ramli, Fadli
Zon, Khalid Basalamah, Riza Basalamah, Detektif Aldo, and Refly
Harun. They politically correct to our national ideology
Pancasila, which means implement Islamic National Socialism,
anti-colonialism, anti-capitalism, anti-communism, and
anti-Judaism
In contrast, our enemies and traitorous to our fatherland are
the famous retard liberal capitalist Westerners like Ade
Armando, Denny Siregar, Syafiq Hasyim, Eko Kuntadhi, Megawati,
Luthfie Assyaukanie, Akhmad Sahal, Husein Hadar Jafar, Nadirsyah
Hosen, Yaqut Cholil Choumas, Ulil Abshar Abdalla, Ayang Utriza
Yakin, Saidiman Ahmad, Nong Darol Mahmada, Cania Citta Irlanie,
Prita Ghozie, Analisa Widyaningrum, Adjie Santosha Putra, Henry
Manampiring, Saiful Mujani, Yorien Hallatu, Abu Janda or Heddy
Setia Permadi, Deodatus Andreas Deddy Cahyadi Sunjoyo or Deddy
Corbuzier, Rizka Putri Abner, Eno Bening, Ratih Ananda Putri,
Raja Juli Antoni, Grace Natalie, Dara Nasution, and Goenawan
Mohamad.
All of Western liberal famous influencer people whom I mention
are have more than fifty thousands of followers on social media,
and they got degree mostly from the United States or Western
European liberal nations. And their books are distributed widely
to society. And also they granted to show themselves on popular
TV shows and YouTube podcast. Whereas the books from famous
people from our political movement got banned, not just found
difficulties on distribution.
For example, the political figures whom I support is behave like
this on photo, and that is good :
1. Lieus Sungkharisma
[img]
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/b7ea7ac99e90c0533c3893b48f506a96/c6905657119d8a74-e8/s640x960/0371c734e1622c98fe49488f43b87dd2d9c19392.pnj[/img]
HTML https://foto.wartaekonomi.co.id/files/arsip_foto_2021_09_22/lieus_sungkharisma_103502_big.jpg
In contrast to, Eurocentrist Prita Ghozie for example
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/55c0811bda5237c343148afd122da863/09d654186037207c-a1/s500x750/9b0f51e71d20033b38cdc048a6cfb4395c3f00d8.jpg
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/46ddceb6fd4141d25e29966ff6a26c4e/2971b35849c25271-2e/s640x960/7e3338e1524922fa7b7992546923123331f02eb1.jpg
Again, another example...
Habib Mohammad Rizieq Shihab
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HTML https://statik.tempo.co/data/2020/11/10/id_979685/979685_720.jpg
Eurocentrist Ayang Utriza Yakin
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/84f4e139925c66b5bfad6974866edef0/ea764dd5a30c906a-51/s640x960/7751d4bac4b26c434a88bcc6f687c9cd52e8c575.jpg
HTML https://assets.pikiran-rakyat.com/crop/0x0:0x0/x/photo/2021/09/19/2067486454.jpg
He is like a girl even though he is man, hahahahaha...
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: June 11, 2022, 2:36 am
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It's interesting that in the last Nusantara election on 17 April
2019, Prabowo Subianto is the only opponent against Jokowi.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Indonesian_general_election#Candidates
But after losing to Jokowi, Prabowo Subianto got appointed as
the Minister of Defence of Nusantara on 23 October 2019.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabowo_Subianto#2019_presidential_election
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: June 11, 2022, 2:41 am
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Another interesting thing is the current party Jokowi belongs to
is the "Indonesian" Democratic Party of Struggle, which is
headed by Megawati Sukarnoputri, the eldest Sukarno's daughter.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Democratic_Party_of_Struggle
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawati_Sukarnoputri
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Re: Debate with the Liberals
By: guest30 Date: June 11, 2022, 4:04 am
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@Zhang Caizi
[quote]Another interesting thing is the current party Jokowi
belongs to is the "Indonesian" Democratic Party of Struggle,
which is headed by Megawati Sukarnoputri, the eldest Sukarno's
daughter.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Democratic_Party_of_Struggle
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawati_Sukarnoputri[/quote]
Megawati and his party members are keep ignoring Sukarno's last
interpretation of Pancasila ideology during his speech on July
05 1959, which means Islamic National Socialism. Instead they
see Sukarno's ideological interpretation on June 01 1945 as a
true according to them. Which means Westernized Secular Liberal
Democracy. And they don't want to hear the truth about the
Sukarno's real will of his ideology. And also don't believe
Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle, their cadres already
influenced with liberal capitalist democratic ideology.
[quote]It's interesting that in the last Nusantara election on
17 April 2019, Prabowo Subianto is the only opponent against
Jokowi.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Indonesian_general_election#Candidates
But after losing to Jokowi, Prabowo Subianto got appointed as
the Minister of Defence of Nusantara on 23 October 2019.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabowo_Subianto#2019_presidential_election[/quote]
Prabowo indeed a traitor to the Islamic Nusantara people and the
rest of Nusantarans.
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