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The west
DIR By: guest19
Date: April 17, 2022, 3:00 pm
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Hi, i would like to know how you guys expect to destroy the
west? It seems too powerful.
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Re: The west
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 17, 2022, 9:10 pm
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If we reach the stage where AI can independently maintain and
develop Western civilization, it will indeed be hard:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg103/#msg103
Until then, however, maintenance/development of Western
civilization still remains dependent on the availability of
compatible humans, which means it can be destroyed simply by
sufficiently interrupting the supply of compatible humans:
HTML https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886911001073
Therefore, if we can totally cut off the supply of compatible
humans before AI becomes advanced enough, we succeed. On the
other hand, if AI becomes sufficiently advanced first, we are in
trouble. As such, any measures to slow down the advancement of
AI in effect buys us more time to cut off the supply of
compatible humans, and hence are also welcome.
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Re: The west
DIR By: guest19
Date: April 18, 2022, 12:30 pm
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Usually its the compatible non westerners who emigrate to the
west. Yes most of them might not be intelligent enough to create
high level A.I, but with enough molding from the west it might
be possible that they can be
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Re: The west
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 18, 2022, 8:11 pm
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"Usually its the compatible non westerners who emigrate to the
west."
This is why we need:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/refugees-welcome/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/
"with enough molding from the west"
This is why we need:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/academic-decolonization/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/
etc..
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Re: The west
DIR By: guest19
Date: April 18, 2022, 10:51 pm
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So basically the world has to keep getting worse for the west
to get weaker
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Re: The west
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 18, 2022, 11:41 pm
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I am not saying we should deliberately further worsen global
warming. But even if we stopped all greenhouse emissions today
(which I would like to happen), the accumulated effect since the
beginning of the Industrial Revolution would be enough to make
large regions of the world uninhabitable in the near future. The
important thing is to ensure the people currently inhabiting
those regions can relocate.
As for ordinary refugees, I do not see every refugee crisis as a
sign of the world getting worse. For example, the Taliban
returning to power in Afghanistan is to me the world getting
better. But I also know that plenty of Afghans do not like the
Taliban. Therefore they should emigrate to Britain etc.. In so
doing they make Britain less Western, so the world becomes
better on this account too!
And decolonization is also the world getting better, not getting
worse. Only Westerners will perceive decolonization as the world
getting worse.
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Re: The west
DIR By: guest19
Date: April 28, 2022, 11:53 pm
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It will be difficult to do these things effectively as long as
the world super powers remain democratic, especially in these
times which are challenging and changing rapidly.
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Re: The west
DIR By: guest19
Date: April 28, 2022, 11:57 pm
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I feel like most people in the west are delusional, even
entertaining the thought of having an autocratic style of
government has been wiped from there minds
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