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Re: Legal decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 8, 2023, 1:41 pm
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/childcare-issues/msg23499/#msg23499
This same ethical principle also applies elsewhere. If a new
machine is invented, the inventors and those who voluntarily
funded them are the only ones who chose to put themselves (and
everyone else) into a world where that machine exists, while
everyone else is put into that world not by their own choice.
Therefore, everyone except the inventors/funders should be the
ones who get to decide what happens with that machine. This is
the opposite of what we currently have:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
It goes without saying that patent law is uniquely Western:
[quote]Although there is some evidence that some form of patent
rights was recognized in Ancient Greece in the Greek city of
Sybaris,[9][10] the first statutory patent system is generally
regarded to be the Venetian Patent Statute of 1474. However,
recent historical research has suggested that the Venetian
Patent Statute of 1474 was inspired by laws in the Kingdom of
Jerusalem that granted monopolies to developers of novel
silk-making techniques.[11] Patents were systematically granted
in Venice as of 1474, where they issued a decree by which new
and inventive devices had to be communicated to the Republic in
order to obtain legal protection against potential infringers.
The period of protection was 10 years.[12] As Venetians
emigrated, they sought similar patent protection in their new
homes. This led to the diffusion of patent systems to other
countries.[13]
The English patent system evolved from its early medieval
origins into the first modern patent system that recognised
intellectual property in order to stimulate invention; this was
the crucial legal foundation upon which the Industrial
Revolution could emerge and flourish.[14][/quote]
If my principle were used instead, machinism would be
disincentivized: what country would invest in machinism if
inventing a machine meant every other country would possess it
except the inventing country?
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: rp Date: January 15, 2024, 11:58 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/Times4India/status/1746540279073804490
[quote]Pagan-Wing
@Times4India
Vishwaguru is probably the only spineless country in the whole
map. Without either a moral principle or might of State. Just
the lengthiest document for peak virtue signalling.
[quote]
Ravi Kant 🪔
@Ravi3pathi
Should #polygamy be legal?
[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDzVz1rWYAAEXow?format=jpg&name=medium[/img]
[/quote][/quote]
Polygamy should be legal regardless of religion.
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Re: Social decolonization
By: rp Date: February 15, 2024, 8:10 pm
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Western hypocrisy:
[img width=1280
height=1280]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGSneUxX0AAU2is?format=jpg&name=4096x4096[/img]
So forcing children to get married is not ok, but forcing them
to go to school is?
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 15, 2024, 9:19 pm
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"So forcing children to get married is not ok, but forcing them
to go to school is?"
Child marriage being legal does not imply it is compulsory,
whereas compulsory schooling is exactly that. We are comparing
between a law that allows children to get married (no violence
initiated by the state) and another law that forces children to
attend school (violence initiated by the state). Clearly the
latter is worse.
If anything, child marriage being made illegal (apparently what
the poster wants) is in effect a law that forces children to be
unmarried (violence initiated by the state). So in both cases it
is the Western law which directly involves the state initiating
violence.
(Of course I understand that child marriage being legal (though
not compulsory) opens a potential avenue for parents to initiate
violence by forcing children to get married, but the correct
response should be an additional law prohibiting parents from
doing so. Similarly, schooling being legal (though not
compulsory) leaves a potential avenue for parents to initiate
violence by forcing children to attend school, but here too the
correct response should be an additional law prohibiting parents
from doing so. But at least the state itself is not directly
initiating violence in either case.)
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: rp Date: February 15, 2024, 9:25 pm
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"schooling being legal (though not compulsory) leaves a
potential avenue for parents to initiate violence by forcing
children to attend school, but here too the correct response
should be an additional law prohibiting parents from doing so."
In the case with schooling, if we are referring to Western
education specifically, it should be noted that such instiutions
didn't exist in non-Western countries prior to colonialism.
Parents in non-Western countries force their children to attend
school because (in the case of daughters) they feel it is a
burden to take care of them and want to marry them off, but
can't do so without educating them as the propsective husband
almost always demands a college degree.
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Re: Gnosticism
By: my observations Date: February 26, 2024, 6:52 pm
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- The rational mind has reached it's maximum level of
development and now mankind is being pushed in the opposite more
musical direction.
Kids should be spending 85% of their time outside in physical
education and 15% in the classroom, unfortunately it's the
opposite that is happening in the school's today.
-Alot of the problems in society is due to its accepting
attitude of fornication and adulterous behaviors. I used to
think that stoning was a harsh punishment for adultery, but more
and more I'm understanding the wisdom behind it. The age of
stoning needs to be reintroduced into the world, maybe not in a
literal sense but metaphysically speaking.
-Of course, western civilization is the one which most lacks
awareness and appreciation of the divine feminine, which is
probably why it is the one which has oppressed and mistreated it
the most.
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 26, 2024, 7:16 pm
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"Kids should be spending 85% of their time outside in physical
education and 15% in the classroom"
Kids should choose for themselves as individuals how to spend
their time. Maintaining compulsory schooling but merely altering
the distribution of activities does not reduce the violence
initiated.
"I used to think that stoning was a harsh punishment for
adultery, but more and more I'm understanding the wisdom behind
it."
Death penalty for adultery is a must. The method of execution
can vary by culture.
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 16, 2024, 9:53 pm
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If jury trials were not in use in the first place, all this
could be avoided:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-tGFvrNZhc
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 9, 2024, 8:28 pm
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Another legal practice that reveals Western ethical depravity:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/last-supper-death-row-america-100049799.html
[quote]Hours before convicted murderer Jamie Mills became the
latest man to be executed in America, he was granted a special
last request: What would he like to eat on his final day on
Earth?
The man convicted in the beating deaths of an elderly couple in
told Alabama prison officials he wanted a seafood buffet of
sorts, with three large shrimp, two catfish filets, three
oysters, three onion rings and one stuffed crab.
Mills got that meal before he was taken to the death chamber to
die by lethal injection. But the choice of a last meal is no
guarantee in U.S. prisons. The age-old tradition is shrouded in
controversy, ethical disagreement and even concern over how much
the meal may cost taxpayers.
...
The special meal also is a recognition of a person’s humanity
before their end, Denno said, and a means to assuage the guilt
of bystanders.
Though even the most lavish final feasts ultimately amount to a
pittance when compared with the overall cost of convicting and
executing a death row prisoner, the idea that taxpayer dollars
could be spent on their pleasure is "horrifying to even think
about" for the victims, Denno said.
...
Lawrence Brewer, who along with two co-defendants were convicted
of torturing and killing a 49-year old disabled Black man in
Jasper County in 1998.
Brewer requested for his last meal:
Two chicken-fried steaks with gravy and sliced onions
A triple-patty bacon cheeseburger
A cheese omelet with ground beef, tomatoes, onions, bell
peppers and jalapeños
A bowl of fried okra with ketchup
One pound of barbecued meat with half a loaf of white bread
Three fajitas
A meat lover’s pizza
One pint of Blue Bell Ice Cream
A slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts
Three root beers[/quote]
Woke comments:
[quote]I wonder if these criminals gave their victims a choice
of a last meal????? [/quote]
[quote]no they shouldnt gett a big last meal. they didnt give
the people they killed a last meal.[/quote]
[quote]we give them extra years to live which is a big mistake
that's enough.[/quote]
[quote]Don't waste the food.[/quote]
[quote]So the people they murdered didn't get a last meal, why
should they? Death penalty should be slow and agonizing[/quote]
Yes, this is indeed a uniquely Western ritual:
HTML https://www.thetakeout.com/history-of-the-last-meal-on-death-row-1848470453/
[quote]A faculty publication from the Mercer University School
of Law titled "Cold (Comfort?) Food: A Systematic Examination of
the Rituals and Rights of the Last Meal" cites ancient Greece as
the origin of this tradition.
...
In the paper, author Sarah Gerwig-Moore and her colleagues also
write that in 18th-century Germany, a "Hangman's Meal" was often
held: Lawyers, judges, clergy, local dignitaries, and even the
executioner would attend what was essentially a feast for the
condemned. In Nuremberg, providing an entire roasted goose to
the person set to be executed was an established part of this
tradition. During the Hangman's Meal, the condemned would
participate in a scripted exchange in which they were told to
seek forgiveness for their actions. The sharing of a meal
between the condemned and those who had condemned them was
symbolic, representing both forgiveness and acceptance.
In the same time period, in London, prisoners were allowed to
hold a similar celebration with outside guests. On the day of
the execution, the procession would stop at a pub for a
customary "last refreshment in life." These traditions could be
seen both as a bittersweet celebration of life and an attempt to
comfort someone facing death.[/quote]
When will we get rid of this absurdity, especially in former
Western colonies which never had such a practice prior to the
colonial era?
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Re: Legal decolonization
By: rp Date: January 11, 2025, 3:57 pm
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HTML https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1878008040877654254?t=-k0iO1hjpKm1GGwlMHTndg&s=19
[quote]
Even days: Indian Constitution was copied from American,
British, etc.
Odd days: Indian Constitution was authored by BN Rau.
Biradar, the Constitution is mostly Government of India Act,
1935 with some inputs from the committee, that included both Rau
and Ambedkar.
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