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       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 21, 2022, 8:41 pm
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       Let us hope it escalates:
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       #Post#: 14364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 27, 2022, 11:20 pm
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       In recent comments, there is more support for invasion into
       Russia, which is of course what I have been recommending since
       February:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/scenes-horror-putin-hits-mall-151404362.html
       [quote]You have to put Russia on the defense. Go after them on
       their own turf.[/quote]
       [quote]It's time Russia start defending an invasion of their own
       country.[/quote]
       [quote]I didn't think that Ukraine should launch rockets into
       Russia - now I fully support it.  It's time the Russians got a
       taste of what they're handing out.[/quote]
       [quote]I think a missile into Moscow for every missile they fire
       at a civilian target may change things up a lot. Just keep
       aiming them at the Kremlin.[/quote]
       [quote]Me Too!!! Time to take the war to them!!!![/quote]
       [quote]If I was Ukraine, I'd be hitting nearby Russian cities
       water treatment facilities. with drones.  No water means
       citizens must leave and become refugees. Clogs the roads and
       makes reinforcements difficult.[/quote]
       [quote]It's time we give the Ukraine some long range missles so
       they can hit the Kremlin and other military installations inside
       Russia It's time they take the war to them[/quote]
       [quote]I now support Ukraine launching missiles into
       Russia...[/quote]
       [quote]Since nothing is stopping Russia, time for Ukraine to
       bomb Moscow![/quote]
       [quote]Give Ukraine the long-range missiles and the ability to
       start hitting some Russian cities. I can't understand how the
       civilized world can sit back and let this continue to go
       on.[/quote]
       #Post#: 14640--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 12, 2022, 10:36 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-precious-key-invading-more-160046009.html
       [quote]“As Putin continues his war in Ukraine, the United States
       must be prepared to address the challenges he’s created in the
       immediate and long term for European and U.S. security,” Shaheen
       told The Daily Beast. “That is precisely what our legislation
       seeks to do by looking at a critical geopolitical region: the
       Black Sea.”
       ...
       Focusing on the Black Sea region is necessary to cut Putin off
       at the source, Shaheen told The Daily Beast.
       “Control over access to the Black Sea is fundamental to his
       delusional dream of building a Russian empire and the United
       States cannot allow that to happen,” she said.
       ...
       It’s not just about the prospect of future Russian attacks.
       Putin’s already leveraging the Black Sea to his advantage,
       holding hostage grain and wheat exports through Ukraine’s Black
       Sea ports, which could cause famine in Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia,
       and beyond, as the International Rescue Committee has warned.
       The United States hasn’t had a comprehensive strategy towards
       the Black Sea region, and Russia’s aggression shows we need to
       step it up, Bill Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, told
       The Daily Beast.
       ...
       The strategy would include plans to increase NATO capabilities
       in the region, including land and air forces, and military
       assistance specifically to Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, and
       Georgia. The strategy would also include schemes to improve
       coordination with NATO forces, better intelligence operations
       and systems to track Russian ops in the region, and help
       defending against hybrid warfare—including plans to support more
       independent media to counter Russian influence
       operations.[/quote]
  HTML https://swzmaritime.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Black_Sea_map.png
       Why not capture at least enough territory from Russian control
       so as to cut off Russian land access to the Black Sea
       altogether? None of the Black Sea coast originally belonged to
       Russia anyway:
  HTML https://i.stack.imgur.com/3rjLH.gif
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov-on-Don#History
       [quote]It was the site of Tanais, an ancient Greek colony, Fort
       Tana under the Genoese, and Fort Azak in the time of the Ottoman
       Empire.[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiysk#History
       [quote]From 1722, the bay was controlled by an Ottoman fortress
       (qale) named Sujuk (also transliterated Sudzhuk, Sudschuk and
       Soğucak).[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#History
       [quote]the current location of the city of Sochi
       (Ş̂açə) known as Ubykhia was part of historical
       Circassia, and was controlled by the native people of the local
       mountaineer clans of the north-west Caucasus, nominally under
       the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire[/quote]
       MAKE AZAK, SUJUK, UBYKHIA (AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN) OTTOMAN
       AGAIN!
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       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 20, 2022, 11:44 am
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  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099
       [quote]The obvious move is to wait until all the reinforcements
       are inside Ukraine, and then open up multiple new fronts of war
       on Russian territory itself![/quote]
       Finally someone understands!
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-faces-second-war-front-133842667.html
       [quote]Putin faces second war front as Chechens threaten new
       offensive in Russia
       ...
       "We know the enemy’s positions, where Russian military bases
       are," spokesman for the Sheikh Mansur Battalion, Islam Belokiev,
       said in a video message obtained by Fox News Digital this week
       while announcing a plan to once again fight for Chechen
       independence.  "We have divided the Chechen Republic of Icheriya
       into three fronts and 16 sectors."
       ...
       At least two volunteer Chechen battalions, including veteran
       soldiers from both the first and second Chechen wars, have taken
       up arms against Russia in Ukraine, including the Sheikh Mansur
       Battalion and the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion.
       Both groups have been vocal in denouncing the leader of the
       Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, who was appointed to the post
       in 2007 by Putin and has brutally backed his war efforts against
       Kyiv.
       ...
       "The possibility of them taking advantage of Putin’s forces
       being tied up in Ukraine to assert their independence is very
       plausible," she explained.
       It is unclear if the Chechen volunteer forces are strategizing
       with Kyiv by creating a second front, but Koffler noted that
       even if a second front is not fully launched in Chechnya it
       could still strain Putin’s forces.
       It would "at least make Putin and the Russians believe that they
       will have to divert their attention and take eyes off Ukraine,
       so Ukrainians could launch a counter-offensive," she said.
       "That’s very clever."[/quote]
       If two fronts are better than one, then three would be even
       better than two, and four would be better still, and so on! Who
       else wants to join in? Now is the time!
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       #Post#: 15051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 8, 2022, 1:23 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/origins-chinese-sovereignty-over-taiwan-080028301.html
       [quote]The foolish trip of Nancy Pelosi, our speaker of the
       House of Representatives, to Taiwan recently has raised again
       the dangerousness of our relationship with the People's Republic
       of China (herein PRC), a growing nuclear and world power in
       Asia. My purpose here is to provide a historical description of
       events that lay at the foundation of the PRC’s right to
       sovereignty over Taiwan.
       Han Chinese started visiting Taiwan during the Yuan dynasty
       (1271-1368 A.D.). The first written account of a visit was 1349.
       By the 16th century, the early European explorers, the
       Portuguese, had entered the region and named Taiwan Ilha Formosa
       (“beautiful island”). Also, by the 16th century, more Chinese
       had come to the island, about 100 miles off the Chinese coast.
       By the 17th century, the Dutch had entered the scene. At first,
       they were driven away by the Ming, but eventually built Fort
       Zeelandia, on the southwest coast of the island. In 1626, the
       Spanish built a settlement on the northeast coast. In 1642, the
       Dutch defeated the Spanish and drove them out.
       In 1664, the Ming dynasty was defeated by the Manchu forces.
       Koxinga was a Ming loyalist. In 1662, after a nine-month siege,
       Koxinga captured the Dutch fortress Zeelandia. Taiwan then
       became his base. The Qing (Manchu) dynasty (1644-1911) defeated
       Koxinga’s progeny in 1683. They ruled part of the island as
       Taiwan Prefecture. In 1875, the island was divided into two
       prefectures (north and south). In 1887, Taiwan became the
       Fokien-Taiwan Province of China. (The above brief history is
       from Wikipedia, July 30, 2022).[/quote]
       We also cover this:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/formosa/
       Continuing:
       [quote]On Oct. 1, 1949, the PRC became the successor government
       of China. Therefore, the PRC claims sovereignty over all of the
       Chinese territories, including Taiwan.
       ...
       What is the problem now?[/quote]
       I fully support PRC viewing itself as the successor to the Qing
       Dynasty. However, if so, it should claim sovereignty over Outer
       Manchuria also:
  HTML https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2021/11/fa706736f71647e980a59460.jpg
       which (due to Xi's dripping Eurocentrism) it currently is not
       doing, thereby making its claim over Taiwan appear arbitrary.
       This is the problem now. The solution is for China to invade
       Outer Manchuria at once.
       #Post#: 15414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 30, 2022, 8:25 pm
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       Imagination is important:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y13SpjMgGE
       Woke comments:
       [quote]It is in fact very very possible. Contrary to popular
       belief, china and russia really aren't friends. Its just an
       alliance of enemies that can break at any time. China would
       really like to take back Vladivostok.[/quote]
       [quote]1938 Vladivostok massacre, 300000 Chinese were killed by
       Stalin.[/quote]
       [quote]it's not only
       海參崴(Hǎishēnwǎi)(Vladivostok)
       ,
       most of chinese want to gain back the whole outer
       Northeast(outer dongbei or outer manchuria), since those dongbei
       provinces can take back the coastline, the
       吉林(JiLin province) owned the longest coastline
       than any other provinces in china during the Qing dynasty, and
       now it's landlcoked province, and the economy of northeast china
       were **** up because they don't have coastline and
       landlocked.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/China-Russia-signed2.jpg
       #Post#: 15522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 8, 2022, 2:50 am
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       Will our dream become reality?
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/greece-warns-another-european-war-211422261.html
       [quote]Erdogan over the weekend accused Greece of occupying
       demilitarized islands in the Aegean, warning that Turkey will do
       "what's necessary" when the time comes. In what was seemingly a
       veiled threat of an invasion or attack against Greece, Erdogan
       warned that Turkey could "come down suddenly one night."
       "Look at history, if you go further, the price will be heavy,"
       Erdogan said.
       During a visit to Sarajevo on Tuesday, the Turkish leader
       doubled down on this threat.
       "What I'm talking about is not a dream," Erdogan said after he
       was questioned about his earlier comments toward Greece, the
       Associated Press reported. "When the time comes, we can come
       suddenly one night."[/quote]
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       #Post#: 15691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 16, 2022, 8:59 pm
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       Now with Sweden and Finland joining NATO, we should also recall:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyenschantz
       [quote]Nyenschantz (Russian:
       Ниенша́нц,
       Nienshants; Swedish: Nyenskans; Finnish: Nevanlinna) was a
       Swedish fortress at the confluence of the Neva River and Okhta
       River, the site of present-day Saint Petersburg, Russia.
       ...
       the Swedish fortress Landskrona, built in the year 1300 by
       Tyrgils Knutsson, who was the Lord High Constable of Sweden.
       Landskrona was a very large and unusually well fortified wooden
       fortress with eight towers. In the spring of 1301 the Russians
       amassed a large army and laid siege to the fortress. When a fire
       broke out inside the fortress the Swedes retreated to the
       basement. The last of the Swedish defenders were captured and
       the Russians burned down the fortress.[2]
       ...
       In 1609, the Vyborg Treaty was signed by Sweden and Tsardom of
       Russia as a package of military agreements that were supposed to
       be mutually beneficial to both countries.
       ...
       The Ingrian War was triggered in 1610 as the new stability of
       Russia led to increased resistance to Polish occupation and
       Swedish influence in the country. As the Poles were defeated in
       Moscow, Russia began to actively resist the Swedish influence as
       they sought to regain control over occupied territories,
       including the province of Ingria, which Sweden insisted on
       keeping based on Russia violating conditions in the Vyborg
       Treaty. Sweden constructed a fortress in Ingria at a strategic
       position at the confluence of the prominent Neva River and one
       of its tributaries, the Okhta River. The new fort was officially
       named Nyenskans, derived from the Swedish terms Nyen-, the name
       for the Neva, and -skans meaning "bastion", and was capable of
       housing 500 people. The Ingrian War ended in Swedish victory in
       1617 after the signing of the Treaty of Stolbovo, resulting in
       Russia ceding the territories to Sweden.
       ...
       According to church records, the town's population was largely
       made up of Finns, secondarily Swedes, and some Germans.[3]
       ...
       On May 1, 1703, Sweden lost Nyenskans to the Russians when the
       fortress was taken by Peter the Great during the Ingrian
       campaign of the Great Northern War.
       ...
       Nyenskans was gradually demolished over the following decades,
       as Saint Petersburg expanded onto the land in the direct
       vicinity of the fort.[/quote]
       Time to Make St Peterburg Nyenskans Again?
       [img width=1280
       height=672]
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       Hitler had a similar idea:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
       [quote]Although various theories have been put forward about
       Germany's plans for Leningrad, including making it the capital
       of the new Ingermanland province of the Reich in Generalplan
       Ost, it is clear Hitler intended to utterly destroy the city and
       its population.
       ...
       Hitler's ultimate plan was to raze Leningrad to the ground and
       give areas north of the River Neva to the Finns.[20][21][/quote]
       [img]
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/NevaRiverLabelled.PNG[/img]
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       See also:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silver_Fox
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Platinum_Fox
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Fox
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Silberfuchs-plan.png
       HAIL HITLER!
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       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 25, 2022, 12:16 am
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  HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/estonian-premier-warns-blackouts-russia-132309877.html
       [quote](Bloomberg) -- Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas warned
       that Russia could be preparing to disconnect the three Baltic
       countries from its electricity grid, leading to potential
       blackouts amid a broader energy crisis.[/quote]
       Is this not enough reason to invade Russia at once in order to
       secure the energy sources? Is there a better time to do so than
       now?
       #Post#: 15951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 3, 2022, 3:35 am
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       Continuing from:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg11692/#msg11692
       more and more commenters agree with us:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl3mpFe4cjc
       [quote]Japan should launch a "Special Recovery Operation" and
       get its territories back.[/quote]
       [quote]Japan used to have half of Shakalin!![/quote]
       [quote]Japan should just go in and take the land back by
       force[/quote]
       [quote]This is the right time for Japan to recover this islands
       now. Russia will never leave this territories peacefully. Japan
       must taken from them now or never.[/quote]
       [quote]In the conventional warfare the Japanese  can easily took
       the sakhalin and the kurile island from the Russian.[/quote]
       [quote]Go on Japan , let’s give Vlad the Insurger a second front
       .[/quote]
       [quote]This is the  moment to go for it[/quote]
       [quote]Very good opportunity for Japan to grab this land along
       with its valuable resources[/quote]
       [quote]Russia has NO right to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
       These areas belong to Japan and will be regained within a short
       time.[/quote]
       And even:
       [quote]Japan should first drive US out off its islands to prove
       its seriousness, then Russia will give the Kurils back[/quote]
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