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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 21, 2022, 8:41 pm
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Let us hope it escalates:
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 27, 2022, 11:20 pm
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In recent comments, there is more support for invasion into
Russia, which is of course what I have been recommending since
February:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/scenes-horror-putin-hits-mall-151404362.html
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> You have to put Russia on the defense. Go after them on their
own turf.
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> It's time Russia start defending an invasion of their own
country.
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> I didn't think that Ukraine should launch rockets into Russia
- now I fully support it. It's time the Russians got a taste of
what they're handing out.
--- End Quote ---
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> I think a missile into Moscow for every missile they fire at a
civilian target may change things up a lot. Just keep aiming
them at the Kremlin.
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> Me Too!!! Time to take the war to them!!!!
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> If I was Ukraine, I'd be hitting nearby Russian cities water
treatment facilities. with drones. No water means citizens must
leave and become refugees. Clogs the roads and makes
reinforcements difficult.
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> It's time we give the Ukraine some long range missles so they
can hit the Kremlin and other military installations inside
Russia It's time they take the war to them
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> I now support Ukraine launching missiles into Russia...
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> Since nothing is stopping Russia, time for Ukraine to bomb
Moscow!
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> Give Ukraine the long-range missiles and the ability to start
hitting some Russian cities. I can't understand how the
civilized world can sit back and let this continue to go on.
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 12, 2022, 10:36 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-precious-key-invading-more-160046009.html
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> “As Putin continues his war in Ukraine, the United States must
be prepared to address the challenges he’s created in the
immediate and long term for European and U.S. security,” Shaheen
told The Daily Beast. “That is precisely what our legislation
seeks to do by looking at a critical geopolitical region: the
Black Sea.”
> ...
> Focusing on the Black Sea region is necessary to cut Putin off
at the source, Shaheen told The Daily Beast.
>
> “Control over access to the Black Sea is fundamental to his
delusional dream of building a Russian empire and the United
States cannot allow that to happen,” she said.
> ...
> It’s not just about the prospect of future Russian attacks.
Putin’s already leveraging the Black Sea to his advantage,
holding hostage grain and wheat exports through Ukraine’s Black
Sea ports, which could cause famine in Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia,
and beyond, as the International Rescue Committee has warned.
>
> The United States hasn’t had a comprehensive strategy towards
the Black Sea region, and Russia’s aggression shows we need to
step it up, Bill Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, told
The Daily Beast.
> ...
> The strategy would include plans to increase NATO capabilities
in the region, including land and air forces, and military
assistance specifically to Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, and
Georgia. The strategy would also include schemes to improve
coordination with NATO forces, better intelligence operations
and systems to track Russian ops in the region, and help
defending against hybrid warfare—including plans to support more
independent media to counter Russian influence operations.
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HTML https://swzmaritime.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Black_Sea_map.png
Why not capture at least enough territory from Russian control
so as to cut off Russian land access to the Black Sea
altogether? None of the Black Sea coast originally belonged to
Russia anyway:
HTML https://i.stack.imgur.com/3rjLH.gif
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov-on-Don#History
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> It was the site of Tanais, an ancient Greek colony, Fort Tana
under the Genoese, and Fort Azak in the time of the Ottoman
Empire.
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiysk#History
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> From 1722, the bay was controlled by an Ottoman fortress
(qale) named Sujuk (also transliterated Sudzhuk, Sudschuk and
Soğucak).
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#History
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> the current location of the city of Sochi
(Ş̂açə) known as Ubykhia was part of historical
Circassia, and was controlled by the native people of the local
mountaineer clans of the north-west Caucasus, nominally under
the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire
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MAKE AZAK, SUJUK, UBYKHIA (AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN) OTTOMAN
AGAIN!
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 20, 2022, 11:44 am
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099
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> The obvious move is to wait until all the reinforcements are
inside Ukraine, and then open up multiple new fronts of war on
Russian territory itself!
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Finally someone understands!
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-faces-second-war-front-133842667.html
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> Putin faces second war front as Chechens threaten new
offensive in Russia
> ...
> "We know the enemy’s positions, where Russian military bases
are," spokesman for the Sheikh Mansur Battalion, Islam Belokiev,
said in a video message obtained by Fox News Digital this week
while announcing a plan to once again fight for Chechen
independence. "We have divided the Chechen Republic of Icheriya
into three fronts and 16 sectors."
> ...
> At least two volunteer Chechen battalions, including veteran
soldiers from both the first and second Chechen wars, have taken
up arms against Russia in Ukraine, including the Sheikh Mansur
Battalion and the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion.
>
> Both groups have been vocal in denouncing the leader of the
Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, who was appointed to the post
in 2007 by Putin and has brutally backed his war efforts against
Kyiv.
> ...
> "The possibility of them taking advantage of Putin’s forces
being tied up in Ukraine to assert their independence is very
plausible," she explained.
>
> It is unclear if the Chechen volunteer forces are strategizing
with Kyiv by creating a second front, but Koffler noted that
even if a second front is not fully launched in Chechnya it
could still strain Putin’s forces.
>
> It would "at least make Putin and the Russians believe that
they will have to divert their attention and take eyes off
Ukraine, so Ukrainians could launch a counter-offensive," she
said. "That’s very clever."
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If two fronts are better than one, then three would be even
better than two, and four would be better still, and so on! Who
else wants to join in? Now is the time!
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 8, 2022, 1:23 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/origins-chinese-sovereignty-over-taiwan-080028301.html
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> The foolish trip of Nancy Pelosi, our speaker of the House of
Representatives, to Taiwan recently has raised again the
dangerousness of our relationship with the People's Republic of
China (herein PRC), a growing nuclear and world power in Asia.
My purpose here is to provide a historical description of events
that lay at the foundation of the PRC’s right to sovereignty
over Taiwan.
>
> Han Chinese started visiting Taiwan during the Yuan dynasty
(1271-1368 A.D.). The first written account of a visit was 1349.
By the 16th century, the early European explorers, the
Portuguese, had entered the region and named Taiwan Ilha Formosa
(“beautiful island”). Also, by the 16th century, more Chinese
had come to the island, about 100 miles off the Chinese coast.
>
> By the 17th century, the Dutch had entered the scene. At
first, they were driven away by the Ming, but eventually built
Fort Zeelandia, on the southwest coast of the island. In 1626,
the Spanish built a settlement on the northeast coast. In 1642,
the Dutch defeated the Spanish and drove them out.
>
> In 1664, the Ming dynasty was defeated by the Manchu forces.
Koxinga was a Ming loyalist. In 1662, after a nine-month siege,
Koxinga captured the Dutch fortress Zeelandia. Taiwan then
became his base. The Qing (Manchu) dynasty (1644-1911) defeated
Koxinga’s progeny in 1683. They ruled part of the island as
Taiwan Prefecture. In 1875, the island was divided into two
prefectures (north and south). In 1887, Taiwan became the
Fokien-Taiwan Province of China. (The above brief history is
from Wikipedia, July 30, 2022).
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We also cover this:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/formosa/
Continuing:
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> On Oct. 1, 1949, the PRC became the successor government of
China. Therefore, the PRC claims sovereignty over all of the
Chinese territories, including Taiwan.
> ...
> What is the problem now?
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I fully support PRC viewing itself as the successor to the Qing
Dynasty. However, if so, it should claim sovereignty over Outer
Manchuria also:
HTML https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2021/11/fa706736f71647e980a59460.jpg
which (due to Xi's dripping Eurocentrism) it currently is not
doing, thereby making its claim over Taiwan appear arbitrary.
This is the problem now. The solution is for China to invade
Outer Manchuria at once.
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 30, 2022, 8:25 pm
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Imagination is important:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y13SpjMgGE
Woke comments:
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> It is in fact very very possible. Contrary to popular belief,
china and russia really aren't friends. Its just an alliance of
enemies that can break at any time. China would really like to
take back Vladivostok.
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> 1938 Vladivostok massacre, 300000 Chinese were killed by
Stalin.
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> it's not only
海參崴(Hǎishēnwǎi)(Vladivostok),
most of chinese want to gain back the whole outer
Northeast(outer dongbei or outer manchuria), since those dongbei
provinces can take back the coastline, the
吉林(JiLin province) owned the longest coastline
than any other provinces in china during the Qing dynasty, and
now it's landlcoked province, and the economy of northeast china
were **** up because they don't have coastline and landlocked.
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 8, 2022, 2:50 am
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Will our dream become reality?
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/greece-warns-another-european-war-211422261.html
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> Erdogan over the weekend accused Greece of occupying
demilitarized islands in the Aegean, warning that Turkey will do
"what's necessary" when the time comes. In what was seemingly a
veiled threat of an invasion or attack against Greece, Erdogan
warned that Turkey could "come down suddenly one night."
>
> "Look at history, if you go further, the price will be heavy,"
Erdogan said.
>
> During a visit to Sarajevo on Tuesday, the Turkish leader
doubled down on this threat.
>
> "What I'm talking about is not a dream," Erdogan said after he
was questioned about his earlier comments toward Greece, the
Associated Press reported. "When the time comes, we can come
suddenly one night."
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 16, 2022, 8:59 pm
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Now with Sweden and Finland joining NATO, we should also recall:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyenschantz
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> Nyenschantz (Russian:
Ниенша́нц,
Nienshants; Swedish: Nyenskans; Finnish: Nevanlinna) was a
Swedish fortress at the confluence of the Neva River and Okhta
River, the site of present-day Saint Petersburg, Russia.
> ...
> the Swedish fortress Landskrona, built in the year 1300 by
Tyrgils Knutsson, who was the Lord High Constable of Sweden.
Landskrona was a very large and unusually well fortified wooden
fortress with eight towers. In the spring of 1301 the Russians
amassed a large army and laid siege to the fortress. When a fire
broke out inside the fortress the Swedes retreated to the
basement. The last of the Swedish defenders were captured and
the Russians burned down the fortress.[2]
> ...
> In 1609, the Vyborg Treaty was signed by Sweden and Tsardom of
Russia as a package of military agreements that were supposed to
be mutually beneficial to both countries.
> ...
> The Ingrian War was triggered in 1610 as the new stability of
Russia led to increased resistance to Polish occupation and
Swedish influence in the country. As the Poles were defeated in
Moscow, Russia began to actively resist the Swedish influence as
they sought to regain control over occupied territories,
including the province of Ingria, which Sweden insisted on
keeping based on Russia violating conditions in the Vyborg
Treaty. Sweden constructed a fortress in Ingria at a strategic
position at the confluence of the prominent Neva River and one
of its tributaries, the Okhta River. The new fort was officially
named Nyenskans, derived from the Swedish terms Nyen-, the name
for the Neva, and -skans meaning "bastion", and was capable of
housing 500 people. The Ingrian War ended in Swedish victory in
1617 after the signing of the Treaty of Stolbovo, resulting in
Russia ceding the territories to Sweden.
> ...
> According to church records, the town's population was largely
made up of Finns, secondarily Swedes, and some Germans.[3]
> ...
> On May 1, 1703, Sweden lost Nyenskans to the Russians when the
fortress was taken by Peter the Great during the Ingrian
campaign of the Great Northern War.
> ...
> Nyenskans was gradually demolished over the following decades,
as Saint Petersburg expanded onto the land in the direct
vicinity of the fort.
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Time to Make St Peterburg Nyenskans Again?
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Hitler had a similar idea:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
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> Although various theories have been put forward about
Germany's plans for Leningrad, including making it the capital
of the new Ingermanland province of the Reich in Generalplan
Ost, it is clear Hitler intended to utterly destroy the city and
its population.
> ...
> Hitler's ultimate plan was to raze Leningrad to the ground and
give areas north of the River Neva to the Finns.[20][21]
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See also:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silver_Fox
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Platinum_Fox
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Fox
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Silberfuchs-plan.png
HAIL HITLER!
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 25, 2022, 12:16 am
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/estonian-premier-warns-blackouts-russia-132309877.html
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> (Bloomberg) -- Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas warned that
Russia could be preparing to disconnect the three Baltic
countries from its electricity grid, leading to potential
blackouts amid a broader energy crisis.
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Is this not enough reason to invade Russia at once in order to
secure the energy sources? Is there a better time to do so than
now?
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 3, 2022, 3:35 am
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg11692/#msg11692
more and more commenters agree with us:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl3mpFe4cjc
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> Japan should launch a "Special Recovery Operation" and get its
territories back.
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> Japan used to have half of Shakalin!!
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> Japan should just go in and take the land back by force
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> This is the right time for Japan to recover this islands now.
Russia will never leave this territories peacefully. Japan must
taken from them now or never.
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> In the conventional warfare the Japanese can easily took the
sakhalin and the kurile island from the Russian.
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> Go on Japan , let’s give Vlad the Insurger a second front .
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> This is the moment to go for it
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> Very good opportunity for Japan to grab this land along with
its valuable resources
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> Russia has NO right to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin. These
areas belong to Japan and will be regained within a short time.
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And even:
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> Japan should first drive US out off its islands to prove its
seriousness, then Russia will give the Kurils back
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