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Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 9, 2024, 7:53 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKBMCcjbc1c
This video is how I am afraid the CCP (even post-Xi) will think
and thus choose negotiation over invasion. But the great
opportunity now is not merely to take back Russian-occupied
territory that belongs to China, but to maximize Russian deaths
(in particular young Russian deaths, thereby reducing
reproductive potential) to the point where Russia cannot
recover. Sure, China may lose people too, but China is currently
far more able to take the loss than Russia is due to the initial
population difference. This is why wars, despite being expensive
(as the video accurately points out), made so much sense in
ancient times. It is a chance to damage enemies demographically
to a greater extent than is generally possible via negotiation.
To illustrate this, let's use an extreme example. Russia's total
population is ~150 million. If in theory we could eliminate all
150 million Russians at the cost of also eliminating 150 million
Chinese (ie. 1 to 1 trade), this would be a spectacular
demographic victory because Russia would end up at 0 population
whereas China (with its current population of ~1.4 billion)
would still have 1.25 billion* remaining.
(* If China plays its cards well, it could even improve its gene
pool qualitatively via this event!)
The problem begins when you look only at your own losses instead
of comparing your losses to the enemy's losses. Then you (as the
video recommends) tend to try to minimize your own losses and
end up letting the enemy survive.
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Re: War
By: rp Date: October 25, 2024, 12:28 am
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I fear that the end is near. Israel/US could easily strike
Iran's nuclear sites using "bunker busters", which can be
delivered using B2 spirit bombers without being detected by
radar. Then, Israel can conduct airstrikes on the missile
defense batteries and achieve air superiority due to having 5th
gen stealth fighters (F35) in contrast to Iran's older air
force. Then, all it would take is some more airstrikes on
airfields to achieve full air supremacy.
However, there is a caveat in all this: to get to Iran, Israeli
jets must first fly over Iraq. The U.S must resolutely tell
Israel that it will shoot down any aircraft that enters Iraqi
airspace.
Not as good as declaring war on Israel, but it is a start toward
left hawk foreign policy. Indeed, this is what noted anti
Duginist hawk and Cold Warrior Brzezinski (who was behind the
left hawk policy of arming Mujahideen against the Soviets)
suggested as well:
HTML https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/if-israel-attacks-iran
[Quote]
U.S. Should Shoot Down Israeli Planes
If Israel tries to attack Iran, Brzezinski says
by
Michael Weiss
September 21, 2009
Does Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as Jimmy Carter’s former
national security adviser, want U.S. planes to shoot down
Israeli planes if Israel attempts a preemptive strike on Iran’s
nuclear weapons program? That seems to be what he’s asking for
in a interview with Gerald Posner published on The Daily Beast.
When asked how aggressive the Obama administration should be in
forestalling an Israeli attack, Brzezinski reminded Posner that
the U.S. still controls Iraqi air space and added, just to be
clear, “If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have
the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it
could be a Liberty in reverse.” By “Liberty,” Brzezinski was
referring to the incident in which Israeli jets and torpedo
boats hit the USS Liberty in international waters during the
Six-Day War in 1967. Israel said it was an accident, the result
of friendly fire. Brzezinski, unless he chooses his analogies
carelessly, seems to think otherwise.
[/Quote]
Unfortunately, I think the U.S. has relinquished control of
Iraqi airspace to the Iraqi government after the U.S. withdrew
(another reason why we opposed the non interventionist policy of
withdrawal).
The only hope is Iran's nuclear facilities being so deep
underground that it renders bunker busters ineffective.
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Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 25, 2024, 4:13 am
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If Turkey (NATO member) could get Israel (non-NATO) to attack
it, then NATO could be made to go to war against Israel by
treaty obligation. Can Turkey be the one to shoot down Israeli
aircraft entering Iraqi airspace as per your plan? (Of course it
could do better and attack Israel directly.)
At least Turkey is broadly thinking about this topic:
HTML https://al24news.com/en/erdogan-warns-israel-might-attack-turkey-after-palestine-and-lebanon/
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Re: War
By: rp Date: October 25, 2024, 11:48 pm
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I see what you are saying, but I seriously doubt Turkey would do
such a thing, as it being a Sunni state has no incentive to
defend its rival Shia state Iran. A formal security agreement
between the concerned parties must be reached first.
Turkey can of course anytime attack Israel (which it is more
than capable of doing, having the strongest military in the
region), but I doubt Erdogan is willing to do so:
[img width=1280
height=797]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWdefw0XIAA792e?format=png&name=4096x4096[/img]
Another small hope is that Iran has already developed and tested
nuclear weapons, as there have been numerous occasions of
unusual seismic activity being recorded (which Iran has passed
off as earthquakes).
Anyway all this war talk is depressing. It is taking a toll on
my mental health.
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Re: War
By: rp Date: November 10, 2024, 7:21 pm
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Not to underestimate our enemies, but it seems like post WW2
Atlantic Westerners don't have the stomach for war, due to
domestication by the counterculture::
HTML https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1852432304779743634?t=RPCX6dwXbvaFFSerKxhRUg&s=19
[quote]
There's a huge difference in fighting when you've air
superiority and your enemies are insurgents as opposed to
fighting a nation state, and that too something like Russia that
has tanks, artillery, missiles and planes in such numbers like a
kid throwing candies on Halloween.
[Quote]
There was this account of a UK soldier who had served many years
in Iraq and Afg who volunteered for Ukraine he couldn't take it
after a month and returned. Said didn't have PTSD after years,
but got it after Ukraine being under constant artillery barrage.
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Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 10, 2024, 7:34 pm
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If so, this is even more reason to attack Russia now. The more
fronts Russia has to fight simultaneously, the less dangerous it
is for those attacking Russia on each front. If the Ukraine war
is allowed to wrap up before another front of war is launched,
how hard will it be to generate enthusiasm for war from scratch
against Russia among those whom you describe?
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Re: War
By: rp Date: November 10, 2024, 7:53 pm
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Agree. And as rightism gains hold in the U.S., there is also the
growing danger of them joining Identitarians to attack "non
Whites" instead of Russians.
But do you agree my theory applies to Identitarians in the
Atlantic West as well?
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Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 10, 2024, 8:07 pm
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I would prefer to err on the side of caution and hence assume
otherwise. After all, they are the ones who have rejected
Counterculture lifestyle.
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Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 25, 2024, 1:36 am
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We can dream:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDTpVytqE
#Post#: 28818--------------------------------------------------
Re: War
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 29, 2024, 7:51 pm
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If no one else will:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4DukiAZa8Y
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