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       Re: War
   DIR By: 2424
       Date: December 15, 2023, 8:38 am
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       --- Quote from: rp link ---
       >
       > "forcible assimilation"
       > No. Those who fail to adopt to the culture will simply be
       prohibited from reproducing. In contrast, it is the communist
       who would say that the subjects should be forced to adopt using
       torture.
       >
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       How would you enforce it? telling everyone you dislike that they
       will simply not be able to have children is a sure way to make
       them dislike your movement.
       Anyways what culture are we talking about here? i'm talking
       about the "culture", the agenda that permeates modern day china
       which you invoked when you talked about Xinjiang and by
       extension their treatment of muslims, this is not some CIA
       propaganda ops, lest you sound like deluded russophiles who deny
       the atrocities of the communists against muslims, pretending
       like this is a sort of "model" for a noble state that could be
       applied elsewhere makes you lose a lot of credibility. Compare
       the treatment of muslims in china to the treatment in ww2
       germany, no doubt there were racists and tribalists too but i
       didn't see any muslims being brought to the camps, because there
       was no need to rebel against a state that fights for you. China,
       instead, tries to appease all the western occupiers and the
       eastern countries that larp as western by fighting their own
       little "war on terror".
       #Post#: 24456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: rp
       Date: December 15, 2023, 4:07 pm
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       "How would you enforce it? telling everyone you dislike that
       they will simply not be able to have children is a sure way to
       make them dislike your movement."
       We have never claimed that the Aryanist ideal will be a popular
       one. Quite the contrary.
       "Anyways what culture are we talking about here?"
       I definitely agree that the Chinese culture that the Xinjiang
       Muslims are being assimilated into is far from a noble one. For
       example, I have even heard reports that the Uyghurs are being
       forced to eat pork and drink alcohol! But I never claimed that
       this is the culture that we should impose onto the Kashmiris. I
       was merely praising the methods. I should also note, that there
       are plenty of non-fundamentalist Muslims in other parts of China
       who to the best of my knowledge are not being persecuted. My
       main issue with the fundamentalists is that (in the case of
       China) they are threatening the integrity of the state, or (in
       the case of India) justify their ignoble behaviors (e.g.
       beef-eating) and bigoted attitudes (Kashmiri society is
       extremely racist).
       Also, about the Uyghurs (who claim Xinjiang is actually "East
       Turkestan"), for the record:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan#Etymology_and_terminology
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       > Known as Turan to the Persians, western Turkestan has also
       been known historically as Sogdia, "Ma wara'u'n-nahr" (by its
       Arab conquerors), and Transoxiana by western travelers. The
       latter two names refer to its position beyond the River Oxus
       when approached from the south, emphasizing Turkestan's
       long-standing relationship with Iran, the Persian Empires, and
       the Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates.
       >
       > Oghuz Turks (also known as Turkmens), Kyrgyzs, Uzbeks,
       Kazakhs, Khazars, Uyghurs, and Hazaras are some of the Turkic
       inhabitants of the region who, as history progressed, have
       spread further into Eurasia forming such Turkic nations as
       Turkey, and subnational regions like Tatarstan in Russia and
       Crimea in Ukraine. Tajiks and Russians form sizable non-Turkic
       minorities.
       >
       > It is subdivided into Afghan Turkestan and historical Russian
       Turkestan in the west, and Chinese Turkestan or East Turkestan.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 24833--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: rp
       Date: January 15, 2024, 11:13 am
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       --- Quote from: g.s.29 link ---
       >
       > Pakistanis have been brainwashed in the name of Islam since
       1947 while their secular pro western elites, especially in the
       Pakistani Army have all their assets in London or other Western
       countries.
       > For 60 years India was ruled by the Congress (Gandhians,
       Nehruvians) which promoted false ideas of secularism and
       "diversity" within India which merely created more communal
       divisions between muslims and Hindus.
       > Pakistanis dreaming to wipe out Hindus, it is an old dream and
       they failed miserably at it. They ruled India for 1000 years and
       failed at it. British colonialism failed wiping out Hinduism and
       dharmic religions. They are far more Aryans than even Islam and
       christianiaty which though anti jewish have many of their core
       foundations based on judaism and jewish toxic ideas. Since 2014
       With BJP and Modi India has regained and is regaining its former
       dharmic glory slowly and steadily.
       > As for Hindu Survivalism vs Islamic Militarism, the entire
       concept of Ghazwa e Hind Pakistan dreams of is a concept devised
       by the British with whom the Pakistani Army keeps close ties
       with till date and Pakistan is still deeply colonized nation,
       while India is moving more ahead.
       > But BJP and Modi ji, while having made a progress in improving
       India US ties (which in the Congress Ruled India was INDIA USSR
       brotherhood) has failed to see the reality of Israel.
       >
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       The biggest mistake India made was to establish diplomatic
       relations with Israel after improving India-US ties via
       liberalization (in addition to getting rid of the few remnants
       of autocracy from the previous governments). I hope improvements
       in US-China relations will provide a chance for India to become
       autocratic, as this would signify that one can maintain good
       relations with the US without being democratic. Similarly, if
       the US turns anti-Israel, it can influence India to turn
       anti-Zionist as well.
       #Post#: 24885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: January 21, 2024, 12:25 am
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       We should help make this happen:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yki6pigUbfw
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/what-was-prussia/msg11864/#msg11864
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/?topicseen#msg12099
       #Post#: 24897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: January 23, 2024, 8:01 pm
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       #Post#: 24920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: SpookedSwedes
       Date: January 27, 2024, 4:33 am
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       Swedes Spooked as Government, Military Say to Prepare for War |
       Vantage with Palki Sharma
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       > Swedes Spooked as Government, Military Say to Prepare for War
       | Vantage with Palki Sharma
       >
       > Calls from Sweden's government and military urging Swedes to
       be ready for war has triggered panicked buying, frightened
       children and a fierce debate in the Nordic country. Is it
       realism or fear mongering? Why is Sweden preparing for war?
       Palki Sharma tells you.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbcY6JMFuQk
       #Post#: 24921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: UKCitizenArmies
       Date: January 27, 2024, 2:27 pm
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       U.K. army chief says citizens should be ready to fight in
       possible land war
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       > London - U.K. civilians should be ready to fight in a
       hypothetical land war, the head of the British army, Gen.
       Patrick Sanders, said Wednesday, warning that the ongoing
       Russian invasion of Ukraine showed it was "citizen armies" that
       make the difference in conflicts. He said the British military
       is currently too small to respond to the threats emerging in a
       changing world.
       >
       > "Taking preparatory steps to enable placing our societies on a
       war footing when needed are now not merely desirable but
       essential," Sanders said in a speech. "Our friends in eastern
       and northern Europe, who feel the proximity of the Russian
       threat more acutely, are already acting prudently, laying the
       foundations for national mobilization."
       >
       > The U.K. army is currently estimated to include around 75,000
       fully trained professional soldiers, and there are another
       60,000 service members in the British navy and air force.
       >
       > The U.K. spends around 2% of its gross domestic product on its
       military. Though the British government says that will increase
       to 2.5%, Sanders, who has long argued for more military
       spending, said the army should grow to a standing force of
       around 120,000 soldiers by 2027, and even that "is not enough."
       >
       > "Ukraine brutally illustrates that regular armies start wars;
       citizen armies win them," Sanders said...
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  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uk-war-army-patrick-sanders-citizens-should-be-ready-fight/
       #Post#: 24923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: GenZwar
       Date: January 27, 2024, 2:50 pm
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       Gen Z not "mature enough" for conscription if there is a world
       war
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       > “When you’re on the frontline, you can’t just charge your
       phone up.”
       >
       > With conscription on the cards to bolster the UK’s defences
       against Russia, the public isn’t so sure Gen Z is cut out to
       fight in a war.
       --- End Quote ---
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       Re: War
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: February 9, 2024, 10:31 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DezfvDpShnA
       Woke comments:
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       > Don't forget, the Russians took Outer Manchuria from China in
       the early 1900. Vladivostok was known as  Yongmingcheng when it
       was in the Outer Manchurian state of China. The Chinese have
       actually changed to the original Chinese name on their modern
       maps. Using Russian logic to invade Ukraine, China could invade
       eastern Russia and take back Outer Manchuria.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > China would have an easier time taking Siberia than they would
       Taiwan.
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       > wait until Russia is further weakened in Ukraine, probably
       this summer.  taking back Manchuria, which they claim is
       historically Chinese(same excuse Russia used for Ukraine), and
       the eastern oblasks would give China....
       > 1. control of huge reserves of oil, gas, and water that they
       are badly in need of
       > 2. access to the north pacific via petropovlask and the
       Kamcheka peninsula, bypassing the first island chain, making a
       war for Taiwan less important/urgent
       --- End Quote ---
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       > China's astounding advantage in manpower would be decisive.
       Even if Russia managed to drag China into a war of attrition
       (Russia's typical defensive posture), China wins a war of
       attrition.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > Cmon, it’s obvious given the short supply lines China would be
       able to take the eastern cities such as Vladivostok
       --- End Quote ---
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       > If China took Siberia that would transform China into a
       juggernaut, as its biggest weakness is it relies on overseas
       shipping to maintain itself, a weakness that the US has
       exploited by building bases around the area so they could block
       it to greatly damage their economy.
       >
       > But with Siberia which is incredibly rich in natural resources
       such as Oil, minerals, timber etc. that weakness disappears plus
       China will now have alternate routes for coastal trade.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 25101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: War
   DIR By: Schwartze Katze
       Date: February 18, 2024, 1:03 pm
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       How soon can a NATO-Russia war happen?
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       > It's a mistake to assume that the war in Ukraine must end
       before Russia can be a threat to NATO. This idea is built on a
       paradox, and it doesn't take into account the question of
       Europe's limited defense resources. On the contrary, a Russian
       attack on NATO could be a way to improve their chances in
       Ukraine.
       >
       > 0:00 Intro
       > 0:24 Why Russia could attack NATO
       > 1:54 Different time estimates
       > 3:19 Why not now?
       > 4:09 The sequential scenario
       > 5:45 The simultaneous scenario
       > 7:37 A way to divert resources from Ukraine
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptnboLDPS38
       Related:
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       > What does EU mean in military?
       >
       > the European Union
       >
       > The European army or EU army are terms for a hypothetical army
       of the European Union which would supersede the Common Security
       and Defence Policy and would go beyond the proposed European
       Defence Union. Currently, there is no such army, and defence is
       a matter for the member states.
       --- End Quote ---
       Italian foreign minister calls for formation of EU army
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italian-foreign-minister-calls-formation-eu-army-2024-01-07/
       EU member countries push back on Italy’s call for European army
  HTML https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/02/05/eu-member-countries-push-back-on-italys-call-for-european-army/
       Call to urgently revive Theresa May’s plan for EU-wide defence
       treaty
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       > Leader of centrist Renew group in EU parliament says defence
       must be main priority over next five years
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  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/18/call-urgently-revive-theresa-may-plan-eu-wide-defence-treaty
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