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Re: War
DIR By: guest55
Date: March 17, 2022, 11:23 pm
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What is really starting to bother me about many talk show hosts
and news presenters is how quickly important and pertinent
information falls down the memory hole in the face of a more
minor detail. It's almost like as soon as Russia invaded Ukraine
everyone instantly forgot about climate change and the coming
refugee crisis and wars over resources like water that are soon
to occur on this planet. Add these following points together
folks, and then perhaps you will get a clearer picture of the
danger lurking around the next corner? This is why you all
should be talking about finishing off Putin now!:
Putin’s Thousand-Year War
--- Quote ---
> The reasons for his anti-Western enmity stretch back over
Russia’s entire history—and they will be with us for a long
time.
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> Whether or not Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine ends any
time soon, what is certain to continue is the Russian
president’s abiding hatred and mistrust of the United States and
other Western powers, which he believes left him no choice but
to launch an unprovoked war.
>
> It’s not just Putin. These views are shared by the many
Russian elites who have supported him for two decades. They have
also been a chief reason for Putin’s domestic popularity—at
least until recently, when his invasion ran into fierce
resistance—even as he has turned himself into a dictator and
Russia into a nearly totalitarian state reminiscent of the
Soviet Union at its worst. It is an enmity worth probing in
depth, if only to understand why Washington and the West almost
certainly face another “long twilight struggle” with Moscow—in
former U.S. President John F. Kennedy’s words—rivaling the
45-year Cold War.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/12/putins-thousand-year-war/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Defense Department warns climate change will increase conflicts
over water and food
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> Climate change poses a serious threat to U.S. military
operations and will lead to new sources of global political
conflict, the Department of Defense wrote in its new climate
adaptation plan.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/defense-department-warns-climate-change-will-increase-conflicts.html
Swathes of Middle East and North Africa will be too hot for
humans as early as the 2040s: study
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> By the middle of this century, the region will see heat waves
10 times more often, with temperatures inching close to 50 C in
the warmest months
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HTML https://nationalpost.com/news/world/swathes-of-middle-east-and-north-africa-will-be-too-hot-for-humans-as-early-as-the-2040s-study
It seems so many human-beings forget the bigger picture entirely
as soon as there is a smaller detail that warrants a lot of
attention. Human-being, you are running out of time! Better get
your act together! It feels like many just want to keep playing
by the same exact playbook even though the game has totally
changed! Russia's military defeat in Ukraine is a perfect
example of this too!
NATO vs Russia - Who Would Win Military Comparison
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzdclYQkOrc
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 28, 2022, 9:32 pm
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Our enemies think NATO is doing too much (when in reality it is
doing too little):
HTML https://vdare.com/articles/patrick-j-buchanan-will-putin-submit-to-u-s-imposed-weakening
--- Quote ---
> Said Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on his return from a
Sunday meeting in Kyiv with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy:
>
> The United States wants "to see Russia weakened to the point
where it can't do things like invade Ukraine."
>
> "Russia," said Austin, has "already lost a lot of military
capability and a lot of its troops ... and we want to see them
not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that
capability."
>
> Thus, the new, or newly revealed, goal of U.S. policy in
Ukraine is not just the defeat and retreat of the invading
Russian army but the crippling of Russia as a world power.
>
> The sanctions imposed on Russia and the advanced weapons we
are shipping into Ukraine are not only to enable the country to
preserve its independence and territorial integrity but also to
inflict irreversible damage on Mother Russia.
>
> Putin's Russia is not to recover soon or ever from the beating
we intend to administer, using Ukrainians to deliver the
beating, over an extended period of time.
--- End Quote ---
I fail to see a problem here.
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> Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has seen through to
the true objectives of some NATO allies:
>
> "There are countries within NATO that want the Ukraine war to
continue. They see the continuation of the war as weakening
Russia. They don't care much about the situation in Ukraine."
--- End Quote ---
This certainly describes how I (unlike the Ukraine-worshipping
False Leftists) feel.
--- Quote ---
> But to increase steadily and substantially the losses to
Russia's economy, as well as its military, the war must go on
longer.
>
> And a long war translates into ever-greater losses to the
Ukrainians who are alone in paying the price in blood of
defeating Russia.
--- End Quote ---
I would be even happier to see the war expanding into V4+
territory.
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> Is Austin committed to fighting this war to the last
Ukrainian?
--- End Quote ---
I am not Austin, but if I were, I would be. Why not, especially
when Ukrainians themselves claim to be similarly committed?
--- Quote ---
> How many dead Russian soldiers -- currently, the estimate of
Russian losses is 15,000 of its invasion force -- will it take
to satisfy Austin and the Americans?
--- End Quote ---
Again, I am not Austin, but:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Military
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> As of 2021, the military have around a million active-duty
personnel, which is the world's fifth-largest, and about 2–20
million reserve personnel.[258][259]
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20 million at least, and:
--- Quote ---
> Population
> • 2022 estimate
> Neutral decrease 145,478,097
--- End Quote ---
145478097 ideally.
Back to enemy article:
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> To achieve, say, a loss of 50,000 dead Russians, how many
Ukrainians would have to lose their lives as well?
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I would have preferred all of them never to have been born in
the first place, but at least this way many who would otherwise
have reproduced will not do so. The effect will still be to
improve the gene pool in the long-term.
--- Quote ---
> How many Ukrainian cities would have to share the fate of
Mariupol?
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I would have avoided bombing the simple apartment blocks (which
could have been used to house climate refugees) and only
destroyed the Homo Hubris buildings. But it is 100% Russia's
fault for doing almost the exact opposite.
--- Quote ---
> Does a war to bleed the other side to death also contradict
the moral conditions for a just war?
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On the contrary, this is the only way to avoid having to fight
them again in the future. It is precisely those who hate war
(such as myself) who will aim to bleed the other side to death
one and for all. It is Turanian raiders who never do this
because they plan to raid again later (they being the ones who
positively enjoy war).
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> Then there are the practical considerations.
>
> When we say we will so weaken Russia that it cannot threaten
its neighbors again, we are talking about conventional weapons
and power.
>
> Nothing done in Ukraine in this two-month war has diminished
the Russian arsenal of 6,000 nuclear weapons, the world's
largest stockpile.
>
> And the more we destroy Russian conventional power, the more
we force Moscow to fall back onto its ace in the hole -- nuclear
weapons.
--- End Quote ---
Unless we counterinvade into Russian territory. Is Russia going
to nuke Russian cities in order to kill the counterinvading
troops occupying those cities?
--- Quote ---
> Which raises the question:
>
> Will Putin accept a U.S.-induced permanent reduction in
Russia's standing as a great nation? Or would Russia resort to
weapons that could avoid that fate and avoid as well the long
and debilitating "forever war" some Americans want to impose on
his country?
>
> If we are going to bleed Russia into an irreversible strategic
decline, is Putin a ruler of the mindset to go quietly into that
good night?
>
> Are Putin & Co. bluffing with this implied nuclear threat?
--- End Quote ---
It is always better to call the enemy's bluff than let them get
away with the bluff.
And again, how exactly does Putin use nukes against troops which
have counterinvaded into Russian territory? Yes, he can nuke
NATO territory, but that will not stop the troops already
inside. To stop those troops, he would have to nuke his own
people at the same time. This is why, the sooner we push this
war into Russian territory, the less credible Putin's bluff will
sound.
--- Quote ---
> When Georgia invaded South Ossetia in 2008, Putin's Russian
army reacted instantly, ran the Georgians out and stormed into
Georgia itself.
>
> When the U.S. helped to overthrow the pro-Russian government
in Kyiv in 2014, Russia plunged in and took Crimea, the
Sevastopol naval base, and Luhansk and Donetsk.
>
> When Ukraine flirted with joining NATO and Biden refused to
rule out the possibility, Putin invaded in February.
>
> When he warns of military action, Putin has some credibility.
>
> And in this talk of using tactical atomic weapons to prevent
the defeat, humiliation and diminution of Russia itself, is
Vladimir Putin bluffing?
--- End Quote ---
There is only one way to find out for sure, and that is by not
backing down.
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Re: War
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: April 29, 2022, 1:00 pm
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"On the contrary, this is the only way to avoid having to fight
them again in the future. It is precisely those who hate war
(such as myself) who will aim to bleed the other side to death
one and for all."
I would also assume that it has a dysgenic effect for the enemy
side, since all the Turanians inherently militaristic enough to
proudly fight in the war will be the first to die, leaving
behind the Turanians who don't have as much of a will to fight,
and even some of the noble ones who avoided fighting in the war
not just out of survivalism, but because they were against it
out of principle
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 9, 2022, 12:45 am
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Finally mainstream journalism is starting to understand the need
to reduce Russian territory:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-russia-even-possible-075600721.html
--- Quote ---
> It is time to finally open your eyes and stop looking for
"good Russians."
>
> Instead, it must be made clear that the Russian Federation is
a multinational state. Much of its territory is not inhabited
only by Russians, but by the native peoples who lived on this
land for centuries.
> ...
> The struggle of the peoples of Ukraine, the Baltic states, the
Caucasus, Central Asia and all the others buried the empire of
evil — the USSR. The newest evil empire — the Russian Federation
— must be buried in the struggle for the national liberation of
Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Ischkeria, Tuva, Sakha-Yakutia,
Buryatia and other countries.
>
> This process should not be feared just as the short-sightedly
Western powers feared the collapse of the USSR. On the contrary,
it should be encouraged.
--- End Quote ---
Yes, Russia at the absolute minimum must be reduced to its
pre-1533 borders:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/msg5125/#msg5125
HTML https://i.stack.imgur.com/3rjLH.gif
Until this happens, war against Russia must continue.
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 12, 2022, 8:03 pm
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With Finland to join NATO, now is a good time to bring up land
that Finland should take back from Russia:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
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> The Winter War,[F 6] also known as the First Soviet-Finnish
War, was a war between the Soviet Union and Finland. The war
began with a Soviet invasion of Finland on 30 November 1939,
three months after the outbreak of World War II, and ended three
and a half months later with the Moscow Peace Treaty on 13 March
1940.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Peace_Treaty
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> Finland ceded approximately half of Finnish Karelia, exceeding
the amount of territory demanded by the Soviets before the war.
The ceded area included Finland's industrial centre, the city of
Viipuri (Finland's second-largest city [Population Register] or
fourth-largest city [Church and Civil Register], depending on
the census data[6]), Käkisalmi, Sortavala, Suojärvi, and the
whole of Viipuri Bay (with its islands). Much of this territory
was still held by the Finnish Army. Military troops and
remaining civilians were hastily evacuated inside the new
border: 422,000 Finns, i.e. 12% of Finland's population, lost
their homes.
>
> There was also an area that the Russians captured during the
war that remained in Finnish hands according to the treaty:
Petsamo. The treaty also stipulated that Finland would grant
free passage for Soviet civilians through Petsamo to Norway.
>
> Finland also had to cede a part of the Salla area, the Finnish
part of the Kalastajansaarento (Rybachi) Peninsula in the
Barents Sea, and in the Gulf of Finland the islands of
Suursaari, Tytärsaari, Lavansaari (now Moshchny Island о.
Мощный), Peninsaari (now
Maly Island, о. Малый) and
Seiskari. Finally, the Hanko Peninsula was leased to the Soviet
Union as a naval base for 30 years at an annual rent of 8
million marks. The total area ceded by Finland amounted to
approximately 9% of its territory.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Finnish_areas_ceded_in_1940.png
--- Quote ---
> The harsh terms imposed on the Finns led them to seek support
from Nazi Germany.[citation needed] The Winter War and the
subsequent peace treaty were core factors in leading to what
would become the Continuation War, when hostilities resumed in
1941.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
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> The Continuation War, also known as the Second Soviet-Finnish
War, was a conflict fought by Finland and Nazi Germany against
the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1944, as part of World War
II.[Note 3] In Soviet historiography, the war was called the
Finnish Front of the Great Patriotic War.[Note 4] Germany
regarded its operations in the region as part of its overall war
efforts on the Eastern Front and provided Finland with critical
material support and military assistance, including economic
aid.[19]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Armistice
--- Quote ---
> The Moscow Armistice was signed between Finland on one side
and the Soviet Union and United Kingdom on the other side on 19
September 1944, ending the Continuation War.[2] The Armistice
restored the Moscow Peace Treaty of 1940, with a number of
modifications.
> ...
> The conditions for peace were similar to what had been agreed
in the Moscow Peace Treaty of 1940: Finland was obliged to cede
parts of Karelia and Salla, as well as certain islands in the
Gulf of Finland. The new armistice also handed all of Petsamo to
the Soviet Union
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Finnish_areas_ceded_in_1944.png
We should advocate Continuation War II to take back the islands
in the Gulf of Finland, as well as Petsamo, Salla and especially
Karelia. This would enable another front of war to be opened
against Russia. The more fronts of war able to be simultaneously
opened against Russia, the better.
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 17, 2022, 3:01 am
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/western-advocates-appeasement-crash-course-192100318.html
--- Quote ---
> A number of common misconceptions need to be addressed and
debunked if the West wishes to get Russia right.
>
> One key problem when dealing with Putin is the Western fear of
escalation. The Russian dictator is well aware of this and
always escalates until he has won or been defeated. The West
must therefore not seek to avoid escalation, but should
demonstrate a readiness to escalate more and faster.
> ...
> Western fears of “provoking Putin” are particularly unhelpful.
> ...
> Putin has started an unprovoked and unjustified war, but it is
the West that must not provoke him? Such thinking is essentially
a call to allow a Russian victory and accept Ukrainian defeat.
Instead, the word “provocation” should be retired from the
Western discussion about Putin.
>
> A similarly gentlemanly idea is the notion that the West must
allow Putin to save face. Really? Putin is no gentleman. He
wages wars of aggression and ruthlessly orders the destruction
of entire cities. The West cannot compromise over crimes against
humanity on this scale. On the contrary, Putin must be defeated.
The only language he understands is the language of overwhelming
strength.
> ...
> Putin has also demonstrated conclusively that his word has no
value and he feels under no obligation to keep any of his
promises. For decades, Putin has routinely violated
international agreement after agreement while publicly defending
his conduct with bare-faced lies and obviously implausible
denials. Why bother to conclude another worthless agreement with
this lawless character?
> ...
> When advocates of appeasement run out of other arguments, they
tend to call for an immediate ceasefire. While seemingly
sensible, these appeals ignore Russia’s long record of treating
ceasefire agreements as opportunities to regroup and prepare for
new attacks.
> ...
> Peaceniks often declare that the West must avoid painting
Putin into a corner. Similarly, they warn against destabilizing
Russia, but it is entirely irrational to position Putin as a
source of stability when he is clearly the main destabilizing
factor in both Europe and Russia itself.
> ...
> If a compromise peace allows Putin to hold on to his latest
territorial gains in Ukraine, he will use any pause in
hostilities to prepare for the next stage in his campaign to
subjugate the rest of the country. If he wins the war, Russian
aggression will inevitably expand beyond the borders of Ukraine.
>
> Years of Western wishful thinking and concessions to the
Kremlin have failed to prevent Putin’s emergence as the greatest
threat to world peace. It is now time to recognize the reality
of modern Russia and belatedly abandon the path of appeasement.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 25, 2022, 8:25 pm
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HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-must-destroy-elon-musks-172946213.html
--- Quote ---
> China needs a “hard kill” weapon to destroy Elon Musk’s
Starlink satellites, a state university with close links to the
country’s communist regime has said.
>
> Researchers from the Beijing Institute of Tracking and
Telecommunications Technology called Starlink a threat to
China’s national security because of its “huge potential for
military applications”.
--- End Quote ---
Why not go after the source? Weapons able to "hard kill" Musk
himself already exist. Just use those!
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 27, 2022, 8:04 pm
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This would be a dream come true if it happens:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/chechen-leader-staunch-putin-ally-threatens-poland-over-support-for-ukraine-130655904.html
--- Quote ---
> LONDON — Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, a staunch ally of
Russian President Vladimir Putin, threatened to attack Poland
over its support for Ukraine.
>
> Speaking in a video that was posted to social media on
Wednesday, the warlord warned that Poland had “better take back”
the weapons it supplied to its neighbor.
>
> “The issue of Ukraine is closed,” said Kadyrov, via a
translation from a BBC reporter. “I’m interested in Poland.
Poland, what is it trying to achieve?”
>
> He added: “After Ukraine, if we’re given the command, in six
seconds we’ll show you what we’re capable of. You should better
take back your weapons and your mercenaries and beg official
forgiveness for what you did to our ambassador.”
--- End Quote ---
Can anyone figure out a way to set it off?
HTML https://eurasiangeopolitics.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/belarus-kaliningrad.jpg
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/what-was-prussia/msg11864/#msg11864
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 2, 2022, 2:19 am
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Please let this be true:
HTML https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/china-russian-border-drills
--- Quote ---
> The Chinese Government has been running war drills on its far
north-eastern border, raising expert concerns the superpower
could be considering a push into Russian territory with Moscow
focused on its invasion of Ukraine.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBquLM9tCQ
Previous discussion:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg1207/?topicseen#msg1207
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099
(If this does happen, all the US would have to do is side with
China's territorial claims and our long-hoped-for US-China
alliance will be forged. See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/<br
/>)
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Re: War
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 12, 2022, 9:02 pm
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What can we do to maximize the chances of this actually
happening?
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/foreign-ministry-russia-threatens-poland-131547257.html
--- Quote ---
> The Foreign Ministry of Russia Threatens Poland with Nuclear
Strike
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