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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: EUChina
Date: March 30, 2023, 2:21 pm
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Live: Von der Leyen delivers speech on the future of EU-China
relations | DW News
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnHGmLEs6dU
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: ChinaEU
Date: April 4, 2023, 7:56 pm
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EU leaders travel to China to reshape the country's relationship
with the EU | DW News
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> European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is
traveling to China this week. Before leaving she's laid out a
framework for resetting the EU's relations with Beijing. The
French President Emmanuel Macron will also be joining talks
focusing on trade and the war in Ukraine.
>
> We talk to Andrew Small from the German Marshall Fund think
tank with a focus on Asia. And we talk to Reinhard Bütikofer. He
is a member of the European Parliament and outspoken critic of
the Chinese Communist Party. He was placed on a sanctions list
by China after he condemned human rights abuses in the country.
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: April 12, 2023, 2:52 pm
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Europe sovereignty: ‘Pandemic, war made us discover we have to
reduce our dependencies’ | DW News
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> France's Macron says Europe must shape its own destiny:
>
> French President Emmanuel Macron discussed his conception of
"European sovereignty" in a key address at the Nexus institute
in The Hague on Tuesday.
> "It means that we must be able to choose our partners and
shape our own destiny, rather than being, I would say, a mere
witness of the dramatic evolution of this world," he said,
adding that this could be done "in a cooperative manner in
keeping with our spirit of openness and partnership."
> His speech came after he caused a stir over the weekend with
remarks on China the US and Taiwan.
> "The question we need to answer, as Europeans, is the
following: Is it in our interest to accelerate [a crisis] on
Taiwan? No," Macron told Les Echos and Politico on Friday. "The
worst thing would be to think that we Europeans must become
followers on this topic and take our cue from the US agenda and
a Chinese overreaction."
> Politicians in the United States, Europe and China criticized
those remarks but the White House said on Monday it was
"confident" in the relationship with France despite Macron's
comments.
> Macron spoke in English outlining his vision for a new era of
"European sovereignty."
> "Pandemic and war just pushed us in a situation to discover
that we have to reduce our dependencies if you want to preserve
the European identity," he said.
> "We can set up a new economic doctrine which will allow us to
reconcile creating jobs, financing our social model, dealing
with climate change and being more sovereign and deciding for
ourselves," he said.
> "This is critical in this period when we have war and our
economy is being weaponized," Macron added.
> He said it should be based on five pillars: competitiveness,
industrial policy, protectionism, reciprocity
> The speech was part of the first formal state visit by a
French president to the Netherlands in more than two decades.
> Macron and his wife Brigitte were greeted by Dutch King
Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima.
> The royals were set to host Macron for a state dinner after
the speech.
> He was also scheduled to see the hot-ticket Johannes Vermeer
exhibition at the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam and meet Prime
Minister Mark Rutte on a canal boat.
> The visit coincides with widespread unrest and strikes back in
France, after Macron sought to pass his increase in the pension
age from 62 to 64 by decree, fearing it might be voted down in
the lower house, the National Assembly.
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 9, 2023, 4:56 pm
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Earlier:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/economic-entanglement-and-systemic-rivalry-germany-and-china-at-a-crossroads/msg16460/#msg16460
Look how that worked out:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/italy-intends-exit-china-belt-125737574.html
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> Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni reassured US House
Speaker Kevin McCarthy during a meeting in Rome last week that
while a final decision hasn’t been taken, her government is
favoring an exit from its role in China’s massive Belt and Road
Initiative, according to people present at the talks.
>
> Italy signed onto the infrastructure initiative in 2019 when
Giuseppe Conte was premier, becoming the only Group of Seven
country to become part of the deal. Participation will
automatically renew in 2024 unless Rome actively exits the
agreement.
> ...
> The potential move is closely linked to Meloni’s stance on
Chinese investments in Italy and in particular on an upcoming
choice on whether to use executive power to curtail the
influence of China’s Sinochem Holdings Corp., the largest
shareholder in tire maker Pirelli & C. SpA, the people said.
That decision has been delayed to the end of May.
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Will Eurocentrist Xi learn? Probably not.
Best comment (despite incorrect use of term "fascist"):
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> during the pandemic, china was the only country offered their
help and actually helped the italians. the fascists recognize
skin color only.
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All the way back here I was already saying China should not be
helping Italy:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg134/#msg134
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> This on its own is good:
>
>
www.aa.com.tr/en/health/china-to-continue-assisting-iran-against-coronavirus/1766434
>
> [quote]China will continue to provide "as much assistance as
it can" to Iran to curb the coronavirus outbreak, the country’s
president said Saturday.
>
> Xi Jinping said China offered Iran a batch of anti-epidemic
supplies and sent a team of voluntary health experts to Iran,
state-run Xinhua news agency reported.
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On the other hand:
www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/china-sends-essential-coronavirus-supplies-italy-200313195241031.html
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> A planeload of medical supplies, including masks and
respirators, has arrived in Italy from China to help the
European country deal with its growing coronavirus crisis.
> ...
> A team of nine Chinese medical staff arrived late on Thursday
with some 30 tonnes of equipment on a flight organised by the
Red Cross Society of China.
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Has China forgotten so quickly about this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_concession_of_Tientsin
In context, for China to treat a former colonial power (which
additionally has only recently been watching refugees drown
every day without helping) as well as it treats Iran is actually
an insult to Iran.[/quote]
Now you see what you get in return when you do so.
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Re: China and United States Relations
DIR By: Zhang Caizhi
Date: May 11, 2023, 2:21 am
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China urges NATO to reflect on crimes on 24th anniversary of
killing Chinese journalists in Belgrade
HTML https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202305/1290359.shtml
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> The Chinese people will never forget the blood and lives paid
to defend truth, fairness and justice, and NATO's barbaric crime
of bombing the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia, said the Chinese
Foreign Ministry when asked to comment on the 24th anniversary
of the killing of three Chinese journalists during NATO's
aggression in Yugoslavia.
>
> The US-led NATO should seriously reflect on its crimes and
abandon its out-of-date Cold War mentality to stop stirring up
conflicts, splits and chaos, the ministry's spokesperson Wang
Wenbin emphasized at Monday's press conference.
>
> On May 7, 1999, NATO carried out a brutal missile attack on
the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, killing three Chinese
journalists and injuring more than 20 Chinese diplomats.
>
> On Sunday, the Chinese Embassy in Serbia held a commemoration
at the site of the bombed former Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia
in Belgrade to honor the three martyrs - Shao Yunhuan of the
Xinhua News Agency, and Xu Xinghu and his wife Zhu Ying of the
Guangming Daily newspaper.
>
> "24 years have passed, but every scene in that grievous night
will be remembered!" said China's Ambassador to Serbia Chen Bo.
Serbian Minister of Sport Zoran Gajic and dozens of officials
and civilians laid wreaths and flowers at the memorial monument.
>
> While claiming itself as a regional and defensive
organization, NATO has kept exaggerating regional tensions and
making bloc confrontations, said Wang, listing victims including
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and
Syria.
>
> "The wars NATO launched and participated in after 2001 alone
have led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and
the displacement of tens of millions of people. Recently, NATO's
continued eastward movement into the Asia-Pacific region to
provoke bloc confrontation has aroused high alert among regional
countries," said Wang.
>
> In place of the ruined embassy building, a memorial monument
now stands, carved with the Chinese characters "Remember the
martyrs, cherish the peace." Wang said NATO should seriously
reflect on its crimes, stop provoking antagonism and turmoil,
and do things beneficial to long-lasting peace and stability for
Europe and the world.
>
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 11, 2023, 4:17 am
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China under Eurocentrist Xi keeps trying to find common ground
with the countries he worships via a narrative of the US as the
bad guy, the exact opposite of what we recommend.....
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: May 17, 2023, 12:20 am
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EU sanctions on China: Germany warns against EU hitting China
with sanctions | World DNA
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> The European Union will discuss the existing and future
sanctions against Russia at the G7 summit scheduled to take
place in Japan from May19-21. Watch the video to know more.
>
> #europeanunion #russia #japan
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GBCoERfmU
A comment not like all the others:
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> Europe is no stranger to destroying its economy for the
benefit of the Anglo-Saxons.
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;D
Another interesting comment and response:
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> The Ukraine Russian war has greatly caused so much suffering
to gas deprived G7, EU and Nato countries.
> 9/10 of the countries with the most debt are from NATO
countries or allies.
> Source: List of countries by external debt
> United States: 31 trillion
> United Kingdom: 8.73 trillion
> France:
> Germany: 6.46 trillion
> Japan: 4.36 trillion
> Canada: 3.23 trillion
> China: 2.64 trillion
> Spain: 2.26 trillion
> Australia: 1.83 trillion
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Response:
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> This debt can very easily cancelled.
> The debt is held by people who are not taxed as they should be
taxed
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: EU
Date: September 14, 2023, 5:42 pm
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China accuses the EU of 'blatant protectionist behavior' | DW
News
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> EU Commission president, Ursula Von Der Leyen, said Chinese
vehicles are flooding global markets and that state subsidies
were having a distorting effect. He Yadong from China's Commerce
Ministry, responded to Wednesday's announcement by the EU
Commission President: “What I want to emphasize is that the
investigation that the European Union plans to take is to
protect its own industry in the name of fair competition. This
is blatant protectionist behavior It will have a negative impact
on the China-EU economic and trade relations.”
> Given recent and ongoing tensions between the Europe and
China, is there more to this than just economics? And does
Beijing have a point when it accuses the EU of protectionism?
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: EU
Date: October 4, 2023, 3:16 pm
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EU unveils sensitive tech areas to de-risk China relationship |
DW Business
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> European Commission unveils a list of four sensitive
technology areas to “de-risk” its relationship with China and
other authoritarian regimes. Areas include cutting-edge
microchips, AI-powered systems, quantum computing and biotech.
We speak to tech stocks guru Dan Ives.
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Re: China and European Union Relations
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 19, 2023, 6:17 pm
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Eurocentrist Xi's reading list:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/behind-authoritarian-mask-real-xi-160000968.html
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> myth making has been an equally important component of Xi’s
push for preeminence – his public image is clearly a priority.
>
> ‘I have many hobbies, the biggest of which is reading. Reading
has become a way of life for me,’ Xi told reporters in 2013,
weeks after becoming President, after name-checking eight
Russian writers – including Chekhov, Dostoevsky and Tolstoy –
whose works he claimed to have read.
>
> Two months later, Xi charmed Greece’s Prime Minister by saying
he read many works by Greek philosophers during his teenage
years. When Xi visited France the following year, he boasted
about reading Montesquieu, Voltaire, Rousseau, Diderot, Sartre,
and more than a dozen other writers. State media feted Xi as an
erudite leader, publishing lists of his favourite books and
cajoling citizens to emulate his love for learning.
>
> The publicity blitz set tongues wagging among Xi’s fellow
‘princelings’, as descendants of revolutionary leaders and
senior officials are known. Many among them concluded that Xi’s
outlandish claims of literary prowess betrayed deep-seated
insecurity
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Of course we have a duty to read Western authors (in order to
know the enemy so as to more efficiently defeat it), but we
should not enjoy reading them, much less boast about enjoying
them (as if personal Westernization is something to celebrate!).
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> ‘Xi is not cultured. ... one princeling who has known Xi for
decades told me.
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We can tell even without knowing him in person:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/is-putin's-russia-duginist-autocracy/msg8418/#msg8418
Continuing:
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> Xi promised to build a system that could transcend China’s
feudal past
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See? China never thought of itself as "feudal" until
colonial-era Western academics started telling them to do so:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
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> Feudalism, in its various forms, usually emerged as a result
of the decentralization of an empire: especially in the
Carolingian Empire in 9th century AD, which lacked the
bureaucratic infrastructure[clarification needed] necessary to
support cavalry without allocating land to these mounted troops.
Mounted soldiers began to secure a system of hereditary rule
over their allocated land and their power over the territory
came to encompass the social, political, judicial, and economic
spheres.[34]
> ...
> In the 18th century, writers of the Enlightenment wrote about
feudalism to denigrate the antiquated system of the Ancien
Régime, or French monarchy. This was the Age of Enlightenment,
when writers valued reason and the Middle Ages were viewed as
the "Dark Ages". Enlightenment authors generally mocked and
ridiculed anything from the "Dark Ages" including feudalism
> ...
> Some later Marxist theorists (e.g. Eric Wolf) have applied
this label to include non-European societies, grouping feudalism
together with imperial China and the Inca Empire, in the
pre-Columbian era, as 'tributary' societies .[53]
--- End Quote ---
but it is no surprise that Eurocentrist Xi accepts the
progressive narrative. In reality, China's system was not feudal
at all:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landed_gentry_in_China
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> The "gentry", or "landed gentry" in China was the elite who
held privileged status through passing the Imperial exams, which
made them eligible to hold office.
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