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       Re: EU
   DIR By: guest78
       Date: September 18, 2022, 3:07 pm
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       EU moves to strip Hungary of €7.5 in funds over corruption | DW
       News
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       > The European Union has recommended suspending 7.5 Bbillion
       euros in funds to Hungary over corruption allegations.
       > Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is accused of
       mismanaging EU funds and dismantling democratic institutions.
       The money is intended to bring Hungary's economy and
       infrastructure up to the bloc's standards. The suspension must
       be approved by a majority of EU member states within three
       months.
       --- End Quote ---
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       Re: EU
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: September 19, 2022, 11:34 am
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       Turanians who call themselves "Christians":
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/hungarian-government-says-submit-first-101350479.html
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       > Hungarian government says it will submit first anti-corruption
       bill on Monday to avoid losing EU funds
       > ...
       > Development Minister Tibor Navracsics, in charge of
       negotiations with the EU, said on Sunday that Hungary would meet
       all 17 of its commitments made to the European Commission to
       stave off the loss of any EU funding.
       --- End Quote ---
       Which only proves that what Hungary cares about is the money,
       not its commitments! If it cared about its commitments, it would
       have met them from the outset instead of disregarding them year
       after year without guilt but then suddenly pretending to care
       only when funding cuts are on the horizon!
       The EU are fools to accept this:
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       > This comes after EU Budget Commissioner Johannes had indicated
       the way out of this situation for Hungary on Sunday, saying the
       steps proposed by Budapest "could in principle be capable of
       remedying" Commission’s criticisms "if they are correctly
       specified and implemented accordingly."
       --- End Quote ---
       Commenters know better:
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       > The legal documents don't mean anything. Action and
       enforcement are the realities. And Orban doesn't plan to do
       anything to hurt his wealth friends, family, and patrons.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > Looks like an empty measure just to ensure the EU $$$ keep
       rolling in.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > So Orban has told the EU that he will set up a commission to
       tackle fraud and corruption in his government. Exactly which of
       his corrupt loyalists will he be appointing to that commission?
       > Is the EU really that gullible and naive?
       --- End Quote ---
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       > It would be like Boebert, MTG, etc, doing an investigation
       into Trump's affairs.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > t's a scam!!! They just want the money!! Kick them out of NATO
       and EU. Let them get the money from Putin!!!
       --- End Quote ---
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       > He is using the GOPs playbook . He's doing an end around say
       what he thinks will get him his funds  and after the money is in
       the bank. He will just ignore he own  anti-corruption bill
       --- End Quote ---
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       > 1st problem is Orban is the architect of the bill, it’s like
       Trump appointment of his own judge in his deserved criminal
       trial
       --- End Quote ---
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       > just look at his face....he seems sincerely against
       corruption....
       --- End Quote ---
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       #Post#: 16500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: EU
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: November 18, 2022, 2:13 am
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       Pathetic:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/hungary-seen-track-unlocking-billions-112701719.html
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       > EU poised to unblock billions in funds for Hungary - sources
       > ...
       > BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union's executive is on
       track to unblocking billions of euros in funds for Hungary this
       year after Prime Minister Viktor Orban bowed to pressure from
       the bloc over democratic checks and balances, EU sources said.
       --- End Quote ---
       Commenters understand what is really going on:
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       > Sounds like the EU is who bows to Hungary. They cant afford
       Hungary's exit in the middle of the EU, especially if some
       others would  likely to fallow too.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > Nothing new ere.
       >
       > It was obvious from the start that the EU doesn't have
       principles or the courage to stand up to Orban, Putin`s puppet
       within the EU.
       --- End Quote ---
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       > It's the EU way of problem solving. No backbone. Just throw
       money at it and otherwise keep their opinions to themselves.
       Orban just found himself a new piggy bank!
       --- End Quote ---
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg16489/#msg16489
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       Re: EU
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: November 30, 2022, 12:31 am
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrants-morocco-no-access-asylum-164539561.html
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       > MADRID (Reuters) - Migrants in Morocco have no "genuine and
       effective" access to asylum in the Spanish enclave of Melilla,
       leaving migrants with little choice other than to seek to cross
       illegally, the Council of Europe's Human Rights Commissioner
       said on Tuesday, calling on Spanish authorities to rectify the
       situation.
       >
       > Melilla and the other Spanish enclave of Ceuta are the only
       land borders between Africa and the European Union.
       >
       > "In practice, there seems to be no other way to enter Melilla
       and seek protection with the relevant authorities other than by
       swimming or jumping the fence, risking one's life,"
       > ...
       > The comments from the representative of the Strasbourg-based
       European human rights forum adds pressure on the Spanish
       government to shed more light on a mass border crossing over a
       6-meter-high fence into Melilla that led to the death of at
       least 23 migrants on June 24.
       >
       > At the time, about 2,000 migrants took part in the attempt to
       storm the border post between Morocco and Spain's North African
       enclave of Melilla, with scores managing to reach Spanish
       territory.
       >
       > A video from the Moroccan Association for Human Rights of the
       attempted crossing's aftermath showed dozens of bodies piled
       together.
       --- End Quote ---
       So when will WMDs be dropped on Spain? Because if there are no
       consequences for massacring refugees, why would Spain not keep
       doing it?
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       Tensions rise between EU and US over Inflation Reduction Act |
       DW News
   DIR By: guest78
       Date: December 4, 2022, 2:25 pm
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       Tensions rise between EU and US over Inflation Reduction Act |
       DW News
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       > The European Union is adapting its rules in the wake of a new
       green energy subsidies program introduced by the United States.
       > Speaking in Belgium, the European Commission president said
       competition is good when there is a level playing field. Ursula
       von der Leyen says the generous tax breaks in America's new
       Inflation Reduction Act could lure away EU businesses and
       disadvantage European companies. Her announcement comes ahead of
       an EU-US ministerial meeting on Trade and Technology.
       --- End Quote ---
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       Previously:
       'Unfair': EU criticizes Washington over planned subsidies for
       US-made electric cars | DW Business
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       > The European Union threatened Monday to take retaliatory
       measures against the United States for electric car subsidies
       that favour domestic manufacturers. The 27-nation bloc is upset
       about Washington's "Inflation Reduction Act", which will see
       vast spending on green energy initiatives and includes tax
       breaks for US-made electric cars and batteries. Brussels says
       those benefits for American electric vehicle makers would put
       e-cars made in the EU at an unfair disadvantage on the lucrative
       US domestic market. EU finance ministers meeting in Brussels
       said they believed Washington was not hearing Europe's worries.
       "I'm not sure whether they are aware of our concerns," German
       Finance Minister Christian Lindner said. He added: "We should do
       everything to avoid a tit-for-tat scenario or even a trade war."
       --- End Quote ---
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       Re: EU
   DIR By: guest78
       Date: December 5, 2022, 4:23 pm
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       The German Development Model: On The Brink of Collapse?
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       > The rapid and continuous growth of the German economy reached
       its peak. Does the current development model still stand?
       --- End Quote ---
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       Re: Refugees Welcome
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: December 17, 2022, 5:23 pm
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       EU finally remembering how its own laws are supposed to work
       (ignore the enemy false description of "illegal" entry; it is
       always legal to seek asylum):
  HTML https://rmx.news/poland/eu-countries-prepare-to-send-thousands-of-illegal-migrants-back-to-poland-where-they-can-gain-citizenship-after-just-a-year/
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       > Poland has long been opposed to illegal immigration or migrant
       quotas, but the country will be forced to receive potentially
       thousands of illegal migrants in the near future, as they can
       gain citizenship in Poland after just one year.
       >
       > The problem has to do with Belarus’ decision to allow
       thousands of migrants to cross into Polish territory over the
       last few years, which Poland has described as a form of “hybrid
       warfare.” While those migrants usually used Poland as a transit
       country, Poland remains the first EU country they set foot in
       within the European Union. That means all EU countries have the
       right to send those migrants back to Poland.
       >
       > EU countries have already transferred 353 foreigners to Poland
       in the past four months, including 76 foreigners who illegally
       crossed Poland’s border with Belarus. Most of them, 229, were
       sent back from Germany, 27 from Norway, and 25 from Sweden.
       Seventy migrants who illegally crossed the Polish-Belarusian
       border have come back from Germany and six from France.
       >
       > Poland is forced to accept the migrants due to a regulation of
       the European Parliament, the so-called Dublin III from 2013.
       Under the regulation, when it is proven that a person entered an
       EU member state illegally from a third country, the EU member is
       responsible for processing the person’s application for
       international protection.
       --- End Quote ---
       Sounds like a positive development in theory, but there had
       better be EU observers to ensure Poland follows the law. Also
       the refugees should be given firearms.
       #Post#: 17567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: EU
   DIR By: guest78
       Date: January 20, 2023, 8:30 pm
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       Is German reluctance to send tanks undermining the country as a
       reliable European partner? | DW News
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       > "Ukraine is running out of personnel, it's running out of
       weapons, every day counts, they are bleeding," Roderich
       Kiesewetter of Germany's opposition Christian Democrats (CDU)
       and former Bundeswehr general staff officer, told DW. "This is
       really horrifying," he said, adding that Germany is undermining
       its role in Europe.
       >
       > Germany has been at the center of the tank debate. Ukraine has
       said it wants German-made Leopard and US M1 Abrams tanks.
       >
       > The country's new defense minister, Boris Pistorius, said
       Berlin would "balance all the pros and contras before we decide
       things like that... I am very sure that there will be a decision
       in the short term, but I don't know how the decision will look."
       >
       > Berlin has yet to give the go-ahead to Leopard-owning allies
       like Poland or Finland, who desire to send them to Ukraine.
       > Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would
       continue to push for modern heavy armor.
       >
       > "Yes, we will still have to fight for the delivery of modern
       tanks, but every day we make it more obvious that there is no
       alternative to taking a decision about tanks," he said.
       --- End Quote ---
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       Olaf Scholz names Boris Pistorius new German defense minister |
       DW News
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       > Social Democrat interior minister of the state of Lower Saxony
       Boris Pistorius is to serve as Germany's next defense minister,
       several German news outlets reported Tuesday.
       >
       > German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht resigned Monday
       after her government came under rising pressure to allow allies
       to send German-made heavy tanks to Ukraine, at the start of what
       is likely to be a pivotal week for Western plans to further arm
       Ukraine.
       >
       > Chancellor Olaf Scholz has chosen a man who is rather unknown
       abroad: Boris Pistorius has been the interior minister of Lower
       Saxony for nine years. He is popular there and is seen as
       someone who gets things done.
       >
       > Since 2013, Pistorius has been dealing with internal security,
       cybercrime, migration, and sports in the SPD-led state
       government in Lower Saxony. So the 62-year-old lawyer has
       experience running a ministry, and he brings with him another
       prerequisite that will certainly be in demand in the coming
       years: Boris Pistorius is regarded as assertive and a go-getter.
       Pistorius joined the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) at age
       16, he later completed his military service in 1980/81 but has
       no experience in the military field. However, he does have
       experience in dealing with the police force and its
       restructuring to bring in young officers and reach out to the
       citizens. Pistorius sees the security apparatus as an important
       pillar of democracy. This is reflected in his project to make
       the police sustainably strong against political extremism. When
       party SPD leader Saskia Esken spoke of "latent racism" in the
       ranks of the security forces in the summer of 2020, he opposed
       her. With her remarks she was exposing the 300,000 police
       officers in Germany to "unjustified general suspicion," he said.
       >
       > Big challenges await Pistorius
       > Chancellor Scholz pledged €100 billion to the German armed
       forces following the Russian attack on Ukraine. At least 20
       billion euros would be needed for the procurement of ammunition
       alone. New frigates, tanks or F-35 combat aircraft also cost
       billions, plus investments in infrastructure and digitization.
       An acceleration of procurement procedures is needed.
       >
       > But former Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht made headlines
       as recently as December when she put the purchase of Puma
       infantry fighting vehicles on hold. During a firing exercise,
       all 18 infantry fighting vehicles used in the exercise failed.
       In retrospect, this may have been a bit hasty. It has since
       emerged that most of the Puma's problems were minor, and 17 of
       them were swiftly repaired. The chancellor will expect
       Lambrecht's successor to get the Bundeswehr on track as far as
       possible and, beyond that, implement administratively what is
       decided in the chancellor's office – such as the initiative for
       German and European missile defense with the Israeli Arrow-3
       system. The discussion on whether or not to supply battle tanks
       to Ukraine is no different. The chancellor is putting on the
       brakes and does not want to be driven. All decisions will be
       made exclusively in coordination "with our friends and allies,"
       he says again and again, and most recently last Friday at a
       press conference in the Chancellor's Office.
       --- End Quote ---
       
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       Re: EU
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: February 10, 2023, 4:27 pm
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       Rare sanity (which our enemies dislike):
  HTML https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/11/28/eu-president-without-millions-african-migrants-europe-lody/
       --- Quote ---
       > Brussels is opening legal pathways for migrants “who want to
       come” says European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker,
       declaring that Europe has a “clear need” for mass migration from
       Africa.
       >
       > Speaking ahead of the EU-Africa summit this week, where
       leaders of EU and African nations will meet to discuss
       migration, he told Deusche Well that “if we don’t offer legal
       ways of emigrating to Europe, and immigrating within Europe, we
       will be lost.
       >
       > “If those who come — who are, generally speaking, the poor and
       needy — are no longer able to enter the house of Europe through
       the front door, they’ll keep making their way in through the
       back windows.”
       >
       > Claiming that the continent “will clearly need immigration in
       the coming decades”, he said EU nations “have to provide
       [Africans] who want to come, and are able to come, and whose
       situation makes it possible for them to come, with legal paths
       to get to Europe”.
       --- End Quote ---
       On the other hand, over-optimism:
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       > Asked by the German public broadcaster why there is “so much
       resistance” in Europe to the question of open borders with the
       third world, and why the EU has not yet “succeeded” in foisting
       mass immigration on countries across the continent, Juncker said
       Brussels has “told the member-states of their responsibility”.
       >
       > “We will see what the member-states do about it,” he said,
       proclaiming mass immigration to be a “great challenge of our
       age” and hinting that countires in Europe will come around to
       taking the same view as the European Commission.
       --- End Quote ---
       I disagree. I maintain my belief that only totally ruthless
       military action can reopen the borders which have been closed by
       V4 etc..
       --- Quote ---
       > “Now it’s up to the member-states to follow the path of
       wisdom,” said Juncker in the interview, where he cryptically
       hinted there are plans for Europe and Africa to become more
       interlinked.
       --- End Quote ---
       They will not, because they have no wisdom within them. They
       have only cruelty. Therefore they have to be destroyed.
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       > In the interview, Juncker did not expand on why Europe has a
       “clear need” for mass migration from the world’s poorest and
       most turbulent nations, but other EU figures have previously
       stated that the continent needs millions of third world migrants
       so as to combat an “ageing population”.
       >
       > In making this calculation, it is unclear as to whether the
       European Commission has thought about the fact that migrants
       also get older
       --- End Quote ---
       So, what is Hungary's alternative solution to an ageing
       population (that our enemies support)?
  HTML https://hungarytoday.hu/family-friendly-measures-the-cornerstone-for-the-survival-of-the-social-system/
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       > while Hungary pursues its pro-natalist policies, the
       government in Paris chooses immigration to tackle the low
       birth-rate.
       --- End Quote ---
       It is unclear whether Hungary has thought about the fact that
       newborns also get older.
       We have previously covered this here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/debunking-rightist-anti-immigration-arguments/msg9869/#msg9869
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       > One of the most common pro-immigration arguments in mainstream
       discussion is that immigrants will help pay for the pensions of
       retirees.
       >
       > Rightists, who never bothered to understand elementary
       economics, idiotically retort: "But the immigrants will
       eventually retire and need pensions themselves! So this is just
       a Ponzi scheme!"
       >
       > So what is the rightist solution to paying pensions? "Have
       lots of offspring!"
       >
       > As if the offspring won't, by the same token, eventually
       retire and need pensions themselves?? So how is reproduction any
       less of a "Ponzi scheme" than immigration??
       >
       > The actual economic advantage of immigrants over offspring is
       that immigrants arrive ready to work at once, whereas offspring
       require investment for roughly two decades before they start
       contributing economically. The money saved from the first few
       decades of dependency by using immigrants instead of offspring
       is the same money that can be redirected towards funding the
       last few decades of dependency a.k.a. pensions. This is what the
       pensions argument actually means! What immigration is about is,
       in simple terms, cutting costs from the front to supply the
       back.
       >
       > This is another one of those (countless) arguments that I used
       to presume was so obvious that it should not even have to be
       explained.....
       --- End Quote ---
       And Juncker thinks these subhumans have wisdom?!
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       Re: Israel
   DIR By: guest98
       Date: February 23, 2023, 3:43 pm
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  HTML https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/palestinian-premier-urges-eu-to-stop-policy-of-promoting-israeli-aggression/2828503
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       > Palestinian premier urges EU to 'stop policy of promoting
       Israeli aggression'
       >
       > Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh receives delegation from
       European Parliament, EU Representative to Palestine in Ramallah
       >
       > Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh urged the
       European Union on Wednesday to "end its double standard policy
       that encourages Israel to continue its attacks."
       >
       > Shtayyeh received the Chair of the European Parliament
       Delegation for Relations with Palestine, Margrete Auken, at his
       office in Ramallah, according to a statement by the Prime
       Minister's office.
       >
       > The EU Representative to Palestine, Sven Kuhn von Burgsdorff,
       was also present at the meeting.
       >
       > Shtayyeh briefed the delegation on Israel's increasing
       violations against the Palestinians and the recent attack in the
       West Bank city of Nablus.
       >
       > He urged the EU to "take punitive measures to halt Israeli
       violations against international law in Palestine."
       >
       >
       >
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