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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 22, 2023, 4:57 pm
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Work continues:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/bigot-racist-democrat-pushes-strip-171601149.html
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> Rep. Al Green, D-Texas, introduced a resolution on Friday
calling on Congress' upper chamber to wipe the name of the late
Sen. Richard Russell off the Russell Senate Office Building. The
Georgia Democrat was a staunch opponent of de-segregation and
the Civil Rights Movement during his nearly four decades in the
Senate.
>
> "I marvel at how we have arrived in the year 2023, and we have
a building on this campus, named after a person who was a White
supremacist, a person who fought against anti-lynching laws, a
person who fought integration, a person who was a
segregationist," Green fumed on the House floor in late July.
"And we, people of color, tolerate it."
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About Russell:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Russell_Jr.#Legacy
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> Russell was seen as a hero by many of the pro Jim Crow South.
While undoubtedly a skilled politician of immense influence, his
legacy is marred by his lifelong support of white supremacy.
Russell publicly said that America was “a white man’s country,
yes, and we are going to keep it that way.” He also said he was
vehemently opposed to “political and social equality with the
Negro.” Russell also supported poll taxes across the South and
called President Truman's support of civil rights for black
Americans an “uncalled-for attack on our Southern
civilization."[38]
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#Post#: 21730--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 25, 2023, 8:25 pm
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HTML https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/08/tribes-want-to-rename-ohios-wayne-national-forest-sen-jd-vance-does-not.html
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> WASHINGTON, D. C. – Native American tribes whom Gen. Anthony
Wayne helped remove from Ohio more than 200 years now want to
remove his name from the Southeast Ohio’s Wayne National Forest.
> ...
> A Forest Service press release said Wayne’s “complicated
legacy includes leading a violent campaign against the
Indigenous peoples of Ohio that resulted in their removal from
their homelands,” and described the current forest name as
“offensive because of this history of violence.”
> ...
> U.S. Sen. JD Vance on Thursday asked top Forest Service and
U.S. Department of Agriculture officials to oppose the change.
In a letter to Agriculture Sec. Tom Vilsack and Forest Service
Chief Randy Moore, Vance said the name change would denigrate
Ohio history and represent “a lack of fidelity to our nation’s
founding generation.”
>
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See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/old-content/msg7380/#msg7380
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#Post#: 23283--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: rp
Date: October 31, 2023, 2:22 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1589976896925597696?t=uS-YFy86Sx_yhgtfNjd-EQ&s=19
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What is meant by “Middle East”? Any region far from Europe is
called the Far East, close to Europe is Near East, & anything in
between is #MiddleEast. Europe is the benchmark for these names.
The West claimed such rights for themselves. Don’t say the
Middle East; say #WestAsia.
[/Quote]
I agree with everything but the last sentence. Asia itself is a
Eurocentric term FFS!
#Post#: 23284--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 31, 2023, 5:19 pm
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Yes, "West Asia" is definitely the worse term by far, as most of
"West Asia":
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Western_Asia_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/768px-Western_Asia_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png
is actually east of the accurate definition of Asia (shown in
red):
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg/924px-Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg.png
making the name absurd to anyone who knows history. "West Asia"
is also functionally worse because it excludes Egypt etc.,
unlike "Middle East":
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/800px-Middle_East_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png
On the other hand, Mashriq:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Map_of_the_Mashriq.png/1024px-Map_of_the_Mashriq.png
has the disadvantage of excluding Iran and Turkey. The best we
can do is Rashidun:
[img]
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I suppose we could try to promote the term "Greater Rashidun"?
#Post#: 23300--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: Zhang Caizhi
Date: November 1, 2023, 12:19 am
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It's interesting that the Ayatollah or his press secretary
prefers this term.
#Post#: 23333--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 2, 2023, 3:46 pm
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Previously:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/msg728/#msg728
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> what does it say about a civilization that sees no problem
with naming birds after the first humans who shot them?? Answer:
it is Western. This story really succinctly captures how Western
civilization interacts with everything it comes into contact
with. The initiated violence, the utter lack of respect, the
reflexive hubris, all in one package.
> ...
> here is a False Leftist on the issue:
>
> [quote] Should any birds be named after people? Some
birders, like Nick Lund, didn’t want to end the honorific
process altogether. “It’s fun to honor people, and add a sense
of history,” he wrote at The Birdist, while stressing that
offensive names should be changed. “If there's a bird named
after some guy and it turns out that guy was a huge racist jerk,
change the name!”
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Lund may be against racism, but he is still a Westerner because
he thinks it is "fun" to name non-humans after humans. A True
Leftist, on the other hand, is effortlessly aware that it is
disrespectful.
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> Birders like Philadelphia’s Tony Croasdale have created lists
of revised names, redubbing animals like Rivoli’s Hummingbird to
Majestic Hummingbird or Harris’s Hawk to Pack-hunting Hawk.
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Success:
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/11/01/bird-names-racism-audubon/
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> After two years of discussion and debate, the nation’s premier
birding organization has decided that birds should not have
human names.
> ...
> The American Ornithological Society announced Wednesday that
it will remove names given to North American birds in honor of
people and replace them with monikers that better describe their
plumage and other characteristics. The group said it will
prioritize birds whose names trace to enslavers, white
supremacists and robbers of Indigenous graves.
> ...
> Not every birder in the 2,700-member society is expected to
welcome the news. Some who’ve memorized names established for
more than a century are likely to push back. “Are we expecting
that people won’t agree with this decision—sure,” Morris said.
“But we’re proud of this decision.”
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The American Ornothological Society just became more
authentically American (ie. non-Western).
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 7, 2023, 6:09 pm
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:)
Related:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-false-left-is-finished/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg15091/#msg15091
#Post#: 23733--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 14, 2023, 7:46 pm
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Good catch!
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12742845/Astronomers-call-Large-Small-Magellanic-Clouds-renamed-amid-claims-namesake-violent-colonialist-legacy.html
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> Astronomers say the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds should
be given a new title because of their namesake's 'violent
colonialist legacy'.
>
> The dwarf galaxies, visible to the naked eye from the Southern
Hemisphere, have been known about for more than 1,000 years
after being spotted by indigenous peoples across South America,
Australia, and Africa.
>
> But they are named after the 16th-century Portuguese explorer
Ferdinand Magellan, who claimed to have discovered them with his
crew during his first circumnavigation of the globe between 1519
and 1522.
> ...
> Mia de los Reyes, an assistant professor of astronomy at
Amherst College, Massachusetts, branded Magellan 'a coloniser, a
slaver and a murderer'.
>
> She added that he was 'no astronomer', nor was he the first to
discover the galaxies because indigenous peoples had 'names and
legends for these systems that predate Magellan by thousands of
years'.
>
> Professor de los Reyes said she and 'a coalition of
astronomers' were calling for the scientific community to rename
the clouds, 'as well as other astronomical objects,
institutions, and facilities that bear his name'.
>
> A lunar crater, a Martian crater, NASA's Magellan spacecraft,
the twin Magellan telescopes in Chile and the next-generation
telescope under construction – called the Giant Magellan
Telescope – are all named after the explorer.
>
> 'I and many other astronomers believe that astronomical
objects and facilities should not be named after Magellan, or
after anyone else with a violent colonialist legacy,' Professor
de los Reyes wrote in the American Physical Society journal.
>
> She said the explorer had murdered, enslaved and burned the
homes of indigenous people during his circumnavigation, while
also placing iron manacles on the 'youngest and best
proportioned men' in what is now Argentina.
> ...
> The very first recorded mention of the Large Magellanic Cloud
was by Persian astronomer Shirazi, in his Book of Fixed Stars
around 964 AD.
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 30, 2023, 3:39 pm
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Our enemies complain:
HTML https://vdare.com/posts/erasing-america-non-whites-in-montgomery-county-seek-to-rename-francis-scott-key-middle-school-because-he-was-a-white-racist-and-slaveowner
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> Wait until they find out Francis Scott Key was one of the
founders of the American Colonization Society, an organization
replete with some of America’s greatest white men of the 19th
century, which had the aim of removing blacks from the United
States.
> ...
> According to MoCo360, the review found the schools named after
slaver owners are: Montgomery Blair High School in Silver
Spring; Francis Scott Key Middle School in Silver Spring; Col.
Zadok Magruder High School in Derwood; Richard Montgomery High
School in Rockville; John Poole Middle School in Poolesville and
Thomas S. Wootton High School in Rockville.
>
> A recent Fall 2023 report from Montgomery County’s Periodical
for Historical Research added a seventh school to the
list—Julius West Middle School.
>
> In February, members of the Magruder High School community
filed a petition to rename the school because the school’s
namesake ‘does not meet the acceptable criteria for a school
name,’ reported The Washington Post.
>
> Magruder, a founding father of Montgomery County and
Revolutionary War officer, reported he had 26 enslaved people on
his property on the 1790 Census.
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: rp
Date: December 1, 2023, 4:37 pm
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