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Re: Name decolonization
By: Solar Guy Date: July 25, 2022, 5:07 am
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In some non-Western countries like Burma there are no surnames
at all.
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2022, 5:58 pm
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Finally more attention here:
HTML https://www.wsj.com/articles/welcome-to-aotearoa-the-campaign-to-decolonize-new-zealands-name-11658914200
[quote]The first European contact with indigenous Māori
ended with four sailors killed and a hasty retreat. But it led
to an identity for this South Pacific country: Nieuw Zeeland in
Dutch, or New Zealand when it later became part of the British
Empire.
Now, some lawmakers want New Zealanders to drop a name that
harks back to an era of colonization and adopt another—Aotearoa,
a Māori word referring to the clouds that indigenous oral
history says helped early Polynesian navigators make their way
here.
...
In New Zealand, the issue is coming to a head because a petition
to rename the country Aotearoa—pronounced
‘au-te-a-ro-uh’—garnered more than 70,000 signatures and will be
considered by a parliamentary committee that could recommend a
vote in Parliament, put it to a referendum or take no further
action.
“It’s a realignment to where we are as a nation,” said Rawiri
Waititi, co-leader of the Māori Party, a small party in
Parliament that supported the petition. “It’s nothing to be
afraid of.”
Over several decades, Aotearoa has become more common in
everyday speech. It appears on bank notes and passports, and is
often in government documents, either alone or combined with New
Zealand. When the U.S. and New Zealand issued a joint statement
following a meeting of their leaders in May, it referred to
Jacinda Ardern as prime minister of Aotearoa New Zealand.
Māori is one of three official languages in New Zealand but
fluency has plummeted, a legacy of colonial-era policies that
restricted its use.
Ms. Ardern welcomes the wider use of Aotearoa, but a formal name
change isn’t being explored by the government, a spokeswoman for
the prime minister said.
...
Opinion polls suggest advocates of a new identity face an uphill
battle. More than half of respondents want to keep New Zealand,
according to one survey by market-research company Colmar
Brunton. Still, Aotearoa alone or Aotearoa New Zealand command
about a combined 40% support.[/quote]
Everyone who wants to keep "New Zealand" should be treated the
same way as those Dutch sailors mentioned in the first
paragraph.
Those sailors were led by:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Tasman
[quote]Abel Janszoon Tasman (Dutch: [ˈɑbəl
ˈjɑnsoːn ˈtɑsmɑn]; 1603 – 10
October 1659) was a Dutch seafarer, explorer, and merchant, best
known for his voyages of 1642 and 1644 in the service of the
Dutch East India Company (VOC). He was the first known European
explorer to reach New Zealand and the islands of Fiji and Van
Diemen's Land (now Tasmania).[/quote]
which reminds us that "Tasmania" also needs to have its name
changed:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmania#Toponymy
[quote]In the reconstructed Palawa kani language, the main
island of Tasmania is called lutruwita,[25]
...
Tasmania is named after Dutch explorer Abel Tasman, who made the
first reported European sighting of the island on 24 November
1642.[/quote]
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2022, 11:21 pm
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Good work:
HTML https://www.wbur.org/news/2022/08/11/faneuil-hall-marketplace-boycott
[quote]Activists stage sit-in to demand name change of Faneuil
Hall Marketplace
...
Peterson and more than two dozen people gathered in front of
Boston City Hall to once again demand the name change because
Peter Faneuil was a known enslaver. The merchant amassed his
fortune in part by trafficking and selling human beings,
according to the National Park Service. He was complicit in and
benefited from a white supremacist system.
...
“Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley often said that the people
closest to the pain should be closest to the power,” Pierce
said. “And so to me, that translates into making sure that the
government does not have buildings, streets or anything that
it's responsible for named after slavery or oppressive people.”
...
"We mourn the countless hearts that were broken as human beings
removed from their African homeland face lives of perpetual
enslavement in a strange and hostile land,” Copeland said.
“Those of us who are descendants continue to know that hostility
and the denial of full citizenship. But we are brothers and
sisters with our mind stayed on freedom. Understand that, we
demand, we cannot ask for, we demand reparations, which begin
with facing our history, bringing truth to light and correcting
our wrongs.”
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Peterson said they were welcome there, a sign of support from
the new administration under Mayor Michelle Wu.
The mayor’s office released this statement soon after the
demonstration: "The City of Boston is recognized throughout the
world for our role in this country's founding, but it is
critical to acknowledge and address the role of slavery in our
nation's founding and the deep inequities that remain today. As
we work to build an equitable Boston for everyone, the city is
committed to advancing racial justice and learning from our past
and right wrongs."[/quote]
For the record, Fanueil also financially supported Old World
colonialism:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Faneuil
[quote]the enormous Faneuil fortune, which in addition to ships,
shops, and a mansion in Tremont Street included £14,000 in East
India Company stock.[/quote]
therefore it is not only victims of the Transatlantic slave
trade who should want his name removed, but all victims of
Western colonialism.
If you ask me, why not just demolish the entire building?
Especially given its thoroughly un-American architectural style
(Georgian FFS!):
[img]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Faneuil_Hall_Boston_Massachusetts.JPG/532px-Faneuil_Hall_Boston_Massachusetts.JPG[/img]
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 18, 2022, 4:34 pm
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HTML https://news.yahoo.com/patrick-henry-high-mpls-name-002700943.html
[quote]Patrick Henry High School will be getting a new name,
after the Minneapolis school board on Tuesday directed the
school community to begin the name change process.
The school board's school names advisory committee, which was
formed in 2020, had recommended a name change for the North Side
high school because Patrick Henry — an 18th-century Virginia
politician and leading proponent of independence before the
Revolutionary War — owned enslaved people.
According to the resolution approved Tuesday, "students, staff,
and community members recognize the need for a school name that
better represents the values of the community."
...
Two other schools in the district, Sheridan Elementary and
Jefferson Elementary, were respectively renamed Las Estrellas
and Ella Baker this year. The process to change those names
began in 2020.
Sheridan was named for Gen. Philip Henry Sheridan, a Civil War
officer who led the relocation of Native Americans off the Great
Plains and encouraged the extermination of buffalo. Jefferson
was named for the founding father and third U.S. president who
owned slaves.[/quote]
Keep up the good work!
Rightists will never get it:
[quote]Some school alumni vocally opposed the name change,
arguing that it amounted to rewriting history[/quote]
No. Rewriting history would be, for example, covering up the
fact that Henry was a slave owner. We are doing the opposite.
#Post#: 15463--------------------------------------------------
Re: Views towards America
By: antihellenistic Date: September 3, 2022, 7:55 pm
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Why you still use term "America" to mention a territory on the
"redskin" people. That name was founded by the people who made
the categorization of the "redskin" people's territory more
easily recognized for colonization. This is the origin of the
invention of term "America" :
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Etymology_and_naming
[quote]The name "America" was first recorded in 1507. A
two-dimensional globe created by Martin Waldseemüller was the
earliest recorded use of the term.[14] The name was also used
(together with the related term Amerigen) in the Cosmographiae
Introductio, apparently written by Matthias Ringmann, in
reference to South America.[15] It was applied to both North and
South America by Gerardus Mercator in 1538. "America" derives
from Americus, the Latin version of Italian explorer Amerigo
Vespucci's first name. The feminine form America accorded with
the feminine names of Asia, Africa, and Europa.[16][/quote]
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Re: Re: Views towards America
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 3, 2022, 8:00 pm
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We sorted this out ages ago:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/msg5614/#msg5614
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Re: Re: Views towards America
By: SirGalahad Date: September 4, 2022, 12:25 am
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Some Native Americans call North America "Turtle Island". But it
seems too clunky as the formal name of a nation, and it's
limited in scope since it usually only refers to North America
specifically. "America" and "Atlantis" work better for
propagandistic purposes and they're more future proof, since the
concept of America or Atlantis could encapsulate all of the
Americas/the New World. Turtle Island is a nice name
colloquially, though
#Post#: 15467--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 4, 2022, 6:34 am
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I suspect that the name Turtle Island is a recent innovation
masquerading as an ancient name rather than something
authentically predating the colonial era. If Turtle Island
refers to North America only, that would require (in order for
"Island" to be accurate) North America to be separated from
South America by seawater, which was not the case prior to the
Panama Canal (built during the colonial era). But if Turtle
Island refers to North and South America combined, there is no
indication that any pre-colonial travellers journeyed the entire
circumference of the landmass, which is what would be required
to ascertain that it is indeed an island. On these grounds I
rarely use this name.
#Post#: 15483--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
By: SirGalahad Date: September 4, 2022, 11:01 pm
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"Turtle Island" being used to refer to North America is almost
certainly a post-colonial innovation. But in defense of the
name, the original folklore it comes from, used the name to
refer to earth as a whole, or more specifically, land (as
opposed to water). I think that this broader and older meaning
is more reasonable for what their level of knowledge of
geography would've been at the time
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 11, 2022, 8:24 pm
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Another country that needs renaming which we had previously
missed:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua_and_Barbuda
[quote]The island of Antigua was originally called Wadadli by
Arawaks and is locally known by that name today; Caribs possibly
called Barbuda Wa'omoni. Christopher Columbus, while sailing by
in 1493, may have named it Santa Maria la Antigua, after an icon
in the Spanish Seville Cathedral. The "bearded" of Barbuda is
thought to refer either to the male inhabitants of the island,
or the bearded fig trees present there.[19][/quote]
I was reminded of it by this article:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/caribbean-nation-vote-removing-king-101858703.html
[quote]Antigua and Barbuda, a commonwealth country and former
colony of the British empire, will hold a referendum on becoming
a republic and removing King Charles III as the head of state,
its prime minister announced.
Prime Minister Gaston Browne told the UK's ITV: "This is a
matter that has to be taken to a referendum for the people to
decide."
"This is not an act of hostility or any difference between
Antigua and Barbuda and the monarchy, but it is the final step
to complete that circle of independence, to ensure that we are
truly a sovereign nation."[/quote]
No, removing Charles as head of state is not even close to the
"final step". You have to rename the country itself. Also, you
have to stop doing uniquely Western things like "hold a
referendum" and "becoming a republic". Why not re-install
pre-colonial monarchies?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacique
[quote]The Taíno word kasike descends from the Taíno word
kassiquan, which means "to keep house".[5]
...
Most importantly, the kasike's word was law and they exercised
this power to oversee a sophisticated government, finely
involved with all aspects of social existence.[9][/quote]
Additionally, Browne needs to stop wearing Western clothes:
[img]
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