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Re: Statue decolonization
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: June 25, 2021, 5:22 am
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2.msg7272#msg7272
date=1624506151]
OK, but if we can take down statues of Columbus, why are we
still calling the country "Colombia" after Columbus? We need:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/
[quote]Some among Colombia’s white majority continue to consider
Columbus and even controversial characters like Belalcazar as
part of their cultural identity.[/quote]
These are the only ones who should be called Colombians (and
hence Western occupiers). The rest should choose a new name.
[/quote]
It's interesting that Colombia came from Francisco de Miranda, a
military leader who fought against Spain.
HTML https://www.vox.com/2015/2/1/7954179/map-countries-people
[quote]
Colombia/Christopher Columbus: Colombia is named after Columbus,
but not in the way that you might think. The name Colombia dates
back to Francisco de Miranda, a revolutionary who sought to
overthrow Spanish colonial rule in late-18th and early 19th
century Latin America. He used "Colombia" as a term for all of
so-called Spanish America. After General Simon Bolivar actually
defeated the Spanish in 1819, the name came to refer to the new
country of Gran Colombia (roughly present-day Colombia, Panama,
Ecuador, and Venezuela).
[/quote]
Before that, Gran Colombia was called the Viceroyalty of New
Granada (Spanish: Virreinato de Nueva Granada)
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Colombia
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viceroyalty_of_New_Granada
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 25, 2021, 10:20 pm
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Yes, this was covered in the first post of this topic:
[quote]The name "Colombia" is derived from the last name of
Christopher Columbus(Italian: Cristoforo Colombo, Spanish:
Cristóbal Colón). It was conceived by the Venezuelan
revolutionary Francisco de Miranda as a reference to all the New
World, but especially to those portions under Spanish rule (by
then from Mississippi river to Patagonia). The name waslater
adopted by the Republic of Colombia of 1819, formed from the
territories of the old Viceroyalty of New Granada (modern-day
Colombia, Panama, Venezuela, Ecuador, and northwest
Brazil).[18][/quote]
Regardless, it is an unacceptable name.
"New Granada"
This is also a bad name:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granada
[quote]Granada was in the eleventh century the center of
Sephardic civilization at its peak, and from 1027 until 1066
Granada was a powerful Jewish state. Jews did not hold the
foreigner (dhimmi) status typical of Islamic rule. Samuel ibn
Nagrilla, recognized by Sephardic Jews everywhere as the
quasi-political ha-Nagid ('The Prince'), was king in all but
name. As vizier he made policy and—much more unusual—led the
army.... It is said that Samuel's strengthening and
fortification of Granada was what permitted it, later, to
survive as the last Islamic state in the Iberian peninsula.
All of the greatest figures of eleventh-century Hispano-Jewish
culture are associated with Granada. Moses Ibn Ezra was from
Granada; on his invitation Judah ha-Levi spent several years
there as his guest. Ibn Gabirol’s patrons and hosts were the
Jewish viziers of Granada, Samuel ha-Nagid and his son
Joseph.[11][/quote]
On the other hand, I would support a New Granada Massacre:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre
[quote]On 30 December 1066 (9 Tevet 4827), Muslim mobs stormed
the royal palace where Joseph had sought refuge, captured and
crucified him.[14] In the ensuing massacre of the Jewish
population, many Jews of Granada were murdered. The 1906 Jewish
Encyclopedia claims, "More than 1,500 Jewish families, numbering
4,000 persons, fell in one day."[15] However, the 1971 edition
does not give precise casualty figures.[16] That was possibly
because the accounts of the massacre could not be verified, and
as over 900 years had passed, it was subject to hyperbole.[14]
The Encyclopaedia Judaica also confirms the figures : "According
to a later testimony,[17] "more than 1,500 householders" were
killed".[18][/quote]
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 29, 2021, 10:49 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/towson-university-removes-slave-owners-180453676.html
[quote]TOWSON, Md. (AP) — Towson University has decided to
remove the names of slave owners from two dormitories following
a vote by the University System of Maryland board of regents
allowing the school to rename them.
...
Charles Carroll was one of Maryland’s first U.S. senators and
William Paca served as the state’s third governor. Both signed
the Declaration of Independence.
Paca owned at least 100 slaves when he died in 1799 and Carroll
had as many as 500 — ranking them among the Marylanders who
owned the largest number of slaves, according to a January
report by the renaming committee.[/quote]
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/georgia-emory-university-latest-school-183000550.html
[quote]the school’s Longstreet-Means residence hall will be
renamed to simply Eagle Hall. The building currently takes its
namesake from Augustus Baldwin Longstreet. He was the
university’s president from 1839-1848 and was all about slavery
and secession, and very much against abolition.[/quote]
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 4, 2021, 10:01 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/nc-district-changes-school-names-123000617.html
[quote]An Orange County school board settled a monthslong
conversation about historic markers of white supremacy this week
with two new names for local schools.
The board voted 6-1 Monday to change the name of Cameron Park
Elementary School to River Park Elementary, and to change the
name of C.W. Stanford Middle School to Orange Middle School.
...
Cameron Park is named for an Orange County slaveowner. Stanford
Middle is named for Charles W. Stanford Sr., who was an Orange
County school board member and chairman during segregation.
The decision to change Stanford’s name, based on his association
with a school board that upheld separate but unequal education
for Black students[/quote]
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 19, 2021, 10:04 pm
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HTML https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/democrats-introduced-a-bill-to-rename-more-than-1-000-forests-lakes-and-mountain-peaks-named-with-racist-slurs-or-offensive-language/ar-AAMiXcw
[quote]Congressional Democrats introduced a bill Friday to
rename more than 1,000 places in the US named with offensive
language and racist slurs.
Democratic Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Rep. Al
Green introduced the bill along with 25 cosponsors in the House
of Representatives, all Democrats.
Lawmakers first introduced the bill last year with Rep. Deb
Haaland, who now serves as the secretary of the interior as the
first Native American cabinet secretary in US history.
"We need to immediately stop honoring the ugly legacy of racism
and bigotry, and that's why I'm introducing the Reconciliation
in Place Names Act with my colleagues," Warren said in a
statement.
The bill would take aim at land units and geographic features,
like forests, streams, and wilderness areas, with racist or
bigoted names. It would create a process to review and rename
places with inoffensive names. According to the statement from
the lawmakers, questionable names have been identified for 1,441
federally recognized places.
More than 600 places have the word "n----," a slur for Black
people, in their name, according to a database from the US
Geological Survey. In Oklahoma there is Dead N---- Spring,
so-named because a deceased Black person was found there,
according to the USGS.
In New Mexico, there is a reservoir called W------ Tank, named
with a slur for Mexican people living in the US. Nearly 800
results are returned by the USGS database when searching for the
term "s----," an offensive word for Native American women.
[/quote]
Rightists often claim that different "non-white" ethnicities are
even more bigoted towards one another than "whites" are bigoted
towards them. If so, where are all the places named by people of
one "non-white" ethnicity using slurs for another?
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Re: Name decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: July 26, 2021, 11:49 am
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Rightist beneficiaries of name colonization pretending there is
no such thing as colonization:
HTML https://i.redd.it/8dl9w8z8ehd71.jpg
[quote]However, questions arose about her ethnicity when in
2011, the Associated Press reported that the Republican governor
identified herself as "white" on her voter registration card in
2001. Some critics believe that Nikki Haley may have an
underlying reason for hiding her racial identity.[/quote]
HTML https://www.mic.com/articles/132538/nikki-haley-s-real-name-and-other-politicians-who-changed-theirs
HTML https://i.redd.it/kso4315iocd71.jpg
While mocking other Westerners who don't use colonized names:
[quote]So, when Republican Sen. David Perdue started
intentionally mucking up Kamala Harris’ name, to say that I was
less than “super impressed” is putting it mildly. “KAH-mah-lah?
Kah-MAH-lah? Kamala-mala-mala?” the Georgia senator asked
supporters at a Trump rally. “I don’t know, whatever.” The crowd
roared.
For most people watching from afar, the overt racism animating
Perdue’s performance was difficult to ignore. While
mispronouncing non-white names is often indeed an innocent,
unintentional mistake, one typically amended upon the first
clarification, Harris is a historic vice presidential nominee
and former presidential candidate. Perdue is her colleague in
the Senate, where she reigns as one of the most prominent women
in American politics.
[...]
Mere seconds into watching Perdue, I recalled the resentment I
once held toward my immigrant parents, who, from the perspective
of a first-generation teenager growing up in an overwhelmingly
white community in New Jersey, had burdened me with the strange,
inconvenient stumble of letters that spelled out “Inae.” When
the mispronunciations arrived intentionally—as they did
countless times by neighborhood dummies and parents of school
friends—the hate was instantly recognizable. “You can call me
whatever,” is what I’d reflexively offer, hoping to signal that
I was at once easy-going and immune to their contempt.
Meanwhile, a slow-burning bitterness was building up. Little did
I know that I had been green-lighting attempts of erasure.
[/quote]
HTML https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/11/i-am-angry-that-racist-white-men-screw-up-our-names-and-try-to-erase-us/
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Re: Linguistic Decolonization
By: guest62 Date: September 14, 2021, 10:34 am
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HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9989425/New-Zealand-change-M-ori-Party-said-sick-death-European-title.html
[quote]New Zealand could change its NAME after Māori Party
said it is 'sick to death' of the 'colonialist' European
title[/quote]
LONG LIVE AOTEAROA!
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 14, 2021, 9:44 pm
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Finally! And it looks like they want to be thorough about it:
[quote]Te Pāti Māori, the nation's Māori Party,
launched the campaign on Tuesday asking for Indigenous names to
be restored for the country and including towns, suburbs and
cities.[/quote]
Wait, though:
[quote]'We are a Polynesian country – we are Aotearoa.'[/quote]
Yes, you are Aotearoa. But no, you are not a "Polynesian"
country. "Polynesia" is a colonial-era Western concept:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia
[quote]The term Polynésie was first used in 1756 by the French
writer Charles de Brosses, who originally applied it to all the
islands of the Pacific. In 1831, Jules Dumont d'Urville proposed
a narrower definition during a lecture at the Geographical
Society of Paris.[/quote]
This is how to truly be thorough about it.
Also:
[quote]'It is the duty of the Crown to do all that it can to
restore the status of our language.[/quote]
No, it is the duty of Aotearoans to smash the Windsor Crown.
Start by changing the flag to something without the British
Empire insignia on it!
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 13, 2021, 9:48 pm
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HTML https://apnews.com/article/science-lifestyle-minnesota-education-00629526e6ffd3ccc260a87fa29614a1
[quote]College cites ‘scientific racism,’ renames Linnaeus
building
...
Linnaeus has been criticized for his 18th century book “Systema
Naturae,” in which he classified four varieties of human,
largely based on skin color and geography, which became the
basis for scientific racism.
...
The 120-acre plot that includes over a dozen formal gardens and
restored natural areas has been renamed “The Arboretum at
Gustavus Adolphus College.”[/quote]
Next they should get rid of the formal gardens, a Western (and
extremely sadistic) style which has no justifiable place in
America (or anywhere, to be honest):
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg4050/#msg4050
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Re: Name decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 6, 2021, 9:42 pm
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More minor successes:
HTML https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/1/22799123/the-government-wants-squaw-removed-from-more-than-50-places-in-utah-interior-haaland
[quote]The Department of the Interior recently ordered that the
derogatory term “squaw” be removed from lakes, mountains, trails
and other features on federal land — and the largest share of
the cleanup will be taking place in the West.
In California, the sexual slur for Native American women appears
on 87 places, according to the U.S. Board on Geographic Names,
which has a search tool to look up place names in every state.
Idaho is a distant second with 69 places identified by the
now-banned term followed by Arizona with 68 places.
When variants of the name are included in a search (such as
historical or local references that are not formally recognized)
the frequency of the term squaw as a place name can almost
triple in some states.
Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, a Native American from New
Mexico, issued the order on Nov. 19, along with another
directive establishing a process to review and replace other
offensive names identifying the nation’s geographic features.
The orders, which continue an ongoing movement that goes back
decades of eliminating derogatory names from landmarks, is
expected to streamline and speed up what has usually been a
lengthy, painstaking process to change the offensive name of a
geographic site.
“Racist terms have no place in our vernacular or on our federal
lands. Our nation’s lands and waters should be places to
celebrate the outdoors and our shared cultural heritage — not to
perpetuate the legacies of oppression,” Haaland, the first
Indigenous woman to head the department, said in a press
release. “Today’s actions will accelerate an important process
to reconcile derogatory place names and mark a significant step
in honoring the ancestors who have stewarded our lands since
time immemorial.”
...
While there is some debate over when the term squaw evolved from
an Algonquian word for female to a sexual slur used by European
fur traders and white settlers, Native Americans generally
associate the word with today’s derogatory definition and have
led efforts over the years to eliminate it from place names
around the country.[/quote]
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