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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: rp Date: December 4, 2024, 12:13 am
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  HTML https://x.com/samariumisback/status/1858651057020108925
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       "tel aviv" does not exist. it is a fiction manufactured for and
       by the settlers, who continue to find themselves locked inside
       yaffa despite their horrifying erasure of it late 1940s onwards.
       yaffa is older than "tel aviv," and these flames devouring these
       settlerscapes today
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: rp Date: September 30, 2025, 8:12 pm
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       www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUm3l-OVCm4
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 30, 2025, 9:22 pm
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       While the term "Middle East" is unsatisfactory, I at least
       prefer it to "West Asia", in the same way that I prefer
       "non-white" over "black" etc.. In each case, the former terms
       make the othering overt:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_question
       whereas the latter terms sugarcoat it with apparently positive
       identity.
       Also, it is not yet clear which side this guy is actually on
       (note use of the term "Kurdistan"):
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: rp Date: September 30, 2025, 10:10 pm
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       www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqt9c-0hfYY
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 30, 2025, 11:13 pm
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       This one is better (and what I have been saying since the 00s).
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: acc9 Date: November 30, 2025, 1:33 am
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       Just returned from a trip in Mainland China that included a
       river cruise on the Yangzi River which is supposed to be the
       largest river cruise in the world. Quite to my disappointment
       however, it is named Victoria Isabella. I was expecting this
       cruise that operates in China to have a Chinese name, and even
       if it had to be named an English one, it would not be something
       as colonial as Victoria or Isabella. I later found out that the
       cruise is run by a company called Victoria Cruises registered in
       New York - no wonder. What an anti-climax!
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 30, 2025, 1:49 am
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       "Victoria Isabella"
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       By the name of the cruise, do you mean the name of the tour, or
       do you mean the name of the ship itself?
       Either way, you can't only blame it only on the US business; if
       enough local customers were turned off by the name enough to
       react by boycotting the service, the business (whose objective
       is to make a profit) will change the name. If anything, the
       business choosing such a name suggests that it is profitable,
       which says something about what the customers think about such a
       name. Recall back here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg4543/#msg4543
       Ganten is a Chinese-owned business:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganten
       [quote]Ganten (Chinese: 景田; pinyin: Jǐngtián;
       Jyutping: ging2 tin4) is a premium[1] bottled water brand from
       China. The brand is owned by Shenzhen Ganten Food & Beverage
       Co., Ltd, a company headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong
       Province.[/quote]
       It still produced such Eurocentric commercials:
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       [quote]A series of commercials for Ganten Water was filmed in
       Scotland. It was produced by Freakworks, based in Edinburgh:[4]
       "Ganten: Mesmerise" (2013),[5][6][7] filmed in Edinburgh and
       "Ganten: Source", filmed at Glasgow City Chambers, Stirling
       Castle, and Smoo Cave in Durness.[8] Both were directed by
       Hamish Allison and feature the Poland-born model Magdalena
       Zalejska. The third in the series was also filmed in
       Edinburgh.[9] The fourth in the series was filmed in 2015 at
       Dean Village.[10][11] Another commercial, "Ganten: Pure", was
       filmed at Blairquhan Castle.[12] Another commercial featuring
       Jing Tian and Donny Lewis was filmed at Winton Castle.[13]
       Ganten water is sourced from Huizhou, in Guangdong
       Province.[14][/quote]
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       Re: Name decolonization
       By: acc9 Date: November 30, 2025, 1:55 am
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       It's the cruise ship that's named Victoria Isabella, not the
       tour.
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