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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 6, 2020, 12:11 am
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"Palestine is also a colonial name introduced by the Romans"
The Roman Empire was not a colonial empire, therefore we have no
problem with Roman names continuing to be used.
In any case, "Palestine" comes from "Philistine" which predates
the Roman Empire:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines#Etymology
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 17, 2020, 12:21 am
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Small victories:
HTML https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/S-F-might-change-44-school-names-renouncing-15651679.php
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> A third of San Francisco public schools could see their names
changed as officials push to replace “inappropriate” ones
honoring presidents, writers, generals and even Sen. Dianne
Feinstein.
> ...
> The principal of Commodore Sloat, Fowzigiah Abdolcader,
notified parents Wednesday of the need to come up with a new
name, because John D. Sloat was a colonizer who “claimed/stole”
California from Mexico, according to the committee.
> ...
> In a September meeting, panelist Mariposa Villaluna urged the
committee to include Thomas Edison Elementary School on the list
to change, saying he euthanized animals, including Topsy the
elephant, according to a video of the meeting.
> ...
> El Dorado Elementary came up next for discussion, with board
members questioning whether the criteria should apply to a
mythological place associated with settlers or colonists.
>
> “The concept of El Dorado, especially in California, had a lot
to do with the search of gold, and for the indigenous people
that meant the death of them,” said Mary Travis Allen during a
September panel meeting. “I don’t think the concept of greed and
lust for gold is a concept we want our children to be given.”
> ...
> That work includes a recommendation to change the name of
Dianne Feinstein Elementary, a name given by the Board of
Education in 2006 when the new school opened.
>
> The school made the list because, as mayor in 1986, Feinstein
reportedly replaced a vandalized Confederate flag, one of
several historic flags flying in front of City Hall at the time.
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And of course:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein
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> Feinstein was born Dianne Emiel Goldman[1] in San Francisco,
to Betty (née Rosenburg), a former model, and Leon Goldman, a
surgeon. Feinstein's paternal grandparents were Jewish
immigrants from Poland. Her maternal grandparents, the Rosenburg
family, were from Saint Petersburg, Russia.[9] While they were
of German-Jewish ancestry,[10] they practiced the Russian
Orthodox (Christian) faith
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 30, 2020, 1:37 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tnrgfA1Wew
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The Voice of Black America?
DIR By: guest5
Date: December 3, 2020, 10:24 am
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The Voice of Black America?
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> How the white political establishment anointed Charlamagne tha
God as the spokesman for all Black voters.
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HTML https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/charlamagne-tha-god-white-political-establishment-breakfast-club.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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> Charlemagne (English:
/ˈʃɑːrləmeɪn,
ˌʃɑːrləˈmeɪn/; French:
[ʃaʁləmaɲ])[3] or Charles the Great[a][b (2
April 748[4][c] – 28 January 814), numbered Charles I, was the
King of the Franks from 768, the King of the Lombards from 774,
and the Emperor of the Romans from 800. During the Early Middle
Ages, he united the majority of western and central Europe. He
was the first recognised emperor to rule from western Europe
since the fall of the Western Roman Empire around three
centuries earlier.[5] The expanded Frankish state that
Charlemagne founded is called the Carolingian Empire. He was
later canonised by Antipope Paschal III.
>
> Charlemagne was the eldest son of Pepin the Short and Bertrada
of Laon, born before their canonical marriage.[6] He became king
of the Franks in 768 following his father's death, initially as
co-ruler with his brother Carloman I, until the latter’s death
in 771.[7] As sole ruler, he continued his father's policy
towards the papacy and became its protector, removing the
Lombards from power in northern Italy and leading an incursion
into Muslim Spain. He campaigned against the Saxons to his east,
Christianising them upon penalty of death and leading to events
such as the Massacre of Verden. He reached the height of his
power in 800 when he was crowned "Emperor of the Romans" by Pope
Leo III on Christmas Day at Old St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
>
> Charlemagne has been called the "Father of Europe" (Pater
Europae),[8] as he united most of Western Europe for the first
time since the classical era of the Roman Empire and united
parts of Europe that had never been under Frankish or Roman
rule. His rule spurred the Carolingian Renaissance, a period of
energetic cultural and intellectual activity within the Western
Church. The Eastern Orthodox Church viewed Charlemagne less
favourably due to his support of the filioque and the Pope's
having preferred him as emperor over the Byzantine Empire's
first female monarch, Irene of Athens. These and other disputes
led to the eventual later split of Rome and Constantinople in
the Great Schism of 1054.[9][d]
>
> Charlemagne died in 814 and was laid to rest in Aachen
Cathedral in his imperial capital city of Aachen. He married at
least four times and had three legitimate sons who lived to
adulthood, but only the youngest of them, Louis the Pious,
survived to succeed him. He also had numerous illegitimate
children with his concubines.
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 4, 2020, 10:23 pm
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More small steps:
HTML https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article247549410.html
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> Nine Charlotte streets named after people with ties to the
Confederacy, white supremacy, segregation or slavery should be
renamed, a panel commissioned by the city recommended Wednesday.
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 25, 2021, 9:16 pm
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Good moves:
HTML https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/471090/port-elizabeth-to-gqeberha-more-name-changes-will-come-minister/
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> Arts and Culture minister Nathi Mthetwa has announced a number
of name changes in the Eastern Cape, including the city of Port
Elizabeth which will now be known as Gqeberha.
> ...
> Old name
> Port Elizabeth International Airport
International Airport
> Port Elizabeth
> Uitenhage
> East London Airport
> Berlin
> MaClear Town
> King William’s Town
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> The change has been criticised by the opposition Democratic
Alliance which says that it will query the costs involved for
the name change.
>
> “It is important to interrogate whether the public, especially
those residents living in these towns and cities, was given
adequate and reasonable time to make their voices heard on the
issue. Was the process advertised in due time and were every
voice considered?
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Were the colonized given the opportunity to make their voices
heard during the colonial-era naming? No. So **** YOU.
My issue is when they are going to rename the entire country:
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> The South African Geographical Names Council (SAGNC) provides
for the transformation of South Africa’s naming landscape
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Do they realize how stupid it sounds to use the colonial name
"South Africa" for an organization supposedly dedicated to
decolonizing names?
Related:
HTML https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2021-02-25-east-london-to-be-renamed-soon-and-its-likely-to-be-gompo/
[img]
HTML https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XVMy8N3GV5UHbCaoa6qVL27yH36nSH-N0UqAOzC5gjGAqsGLHs7VpmxeTRPx3-UPameM9T3Xj11NxSpwG8q3QGKogzhCzoDlsA=s750[/img]
HTML https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2021-02-24-gqeberha-the-origins-of-the-renaming-of-port-elizabeth/
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> “We preceded this area for 1,000 years before anyone moved
here. When we drive here we want to feel home, that we’re in
Africa, and this name change would do that,” he said.
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No, you are not in "Africa"! This is Africa:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_(Roman_province)
Using "Africa" to refer to a place thousands of miles away from
the actual Africa and which the Romans didn't even know existed
when they named the actual Africa, just because it is on the
same side of the Mediterranean, is Eurocentrism. Stop it! (And
stop driving too!)
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 25, 2021, 10:53 pm
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Every renaming is an improvement even if minor:
HTML https://www.progress-index.com/story/news/2021/03/25/virginia-state-university-removes-names-people-racist-ties/6995283002/
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> ETRICK — Virginia State University said Thursday it will
change the names on four campus buildings honoring people "whose
past beliefs are not consistent with the beliefs and legacy" of
the historically Black college.
>
> Gone from those buildings are the names Byrd Hall, Eggleston
Hall, Trinkle Hall and Vawter Hall.
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: guest5
Date: March 30, 2021, 11:46 pm
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Floridians Spew Racist Nonsense in School Name Fight
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> Florida residents tried to fight the name change of Robert E.
Lee High School in Jacksonville, in a local meeting befitting
Parks and Rec.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhM07vrl5Fg
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Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 9, 2021, 11:53 pm
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HTML https://wvva.com/2021/04/09/alexandria-renames-2-schools-that-had-names-tied-to-racism/
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> ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) — The Alexandria City Public Schools in
northern Virginia has renamed two schools whose previous names
had ties to racism. The Washington Post reported Thursday that
the school system renamed its flagship high school as well as an
elementary school. The high school was named after T.C.
Williams. He was a racist former superintendent who sought to
prevent integration in the 1950s and claimed that Black and
white students learn differently. The school will be named
Alexandria City High School. Matthew Maury Elementary School was
named for a Confederate naval officer. It will become Naomi L.
Brooks Elementary School. The name honors a beloved Alexandria
teacher who died in 2020.
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#Post#: 5611--------------------------------------------------
Re: Name decolonization
DIR By: rp
Date: April 16, 2021, 10:49 pm
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Should we really retain the name "America" given that it was
named after the eponymous Westerner Amerigo Vespucci?
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