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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: Zea_mays Date: May 6, 2021, 7:04 pm
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       Since Hawaii is part of America for now, I will post this here.
       In the early 1800s, King Kamehameha III had a male or
       third-gender lover in his youth. But Judeo-Christians, such as
       the Queen Regent Kaʻahumanu and high-ranking "whites" and
       ethnic Hawaiians, ensured he was murdered. Unfortunately, like
       the other Hawaiian monarchs, it was difficult to fight back
       since many/most high-ranking ethnic Hawaiians were also
       Westernized!
       [quote]The term māhū is familar to anyone who grew up
       in Hawaiʻi. ...A māhū could be “defined” in
       various ways including: a person of a “third gender”;
       non-binary; queer; a person that is neither heterosexual nor
       cisgender; a homosexual; a trangender; a person who is gender
       transcendent like the Bissu of Indonesia; and/or a person that
       feels between male and female. It also holds the same meaning
       and tradition in Tahiti and other places within in Polynesia. In
       other words, being māhū means to move between multiple
       spaces and does not necessarily fit into one single English
       language definition. ...The act of calling oneself a
       māhū is in effect an act of decolonization. It is a
       refusal for our stories and our lives as māhū to be
       erased by the same forces that ultimately stole the
       Hawaiʻi.
       The moʻolelo (story) of Kaomi Moe presents a story with
       themes familiar with many modern māhū. Kaomi Moe was
       the son of a Hawaiian mother and a Tahitian father. Kaomi
       excelled in the ancient Hawaiian healing arts and in hula but
       was deeply Christian and was educated in Western ways. His
       English teacher was in fact Reverend Hiram Bingham, pastor of
       Kawaiahaʻo Church. Soon his knowledge of healing attracted
       the attention of members of the royal court. It also helped that
       he was pleasing to the eye and had a good sense of humor. King
       Kamehameha III took notice of him and made Kaomi his
       aikāne, his lover. They both were in the their 20s. This
       angered a great deal of people, particularly the missionaries
       and other churchy Hawaiians. King Kamehameha III was forced to
       confess the nature of his relationship to a church congregation
       — a practice among some Calvinists — where he was then sentenced
       by Kaʻahumanu to build a stone wall for the missionaries.
       Kaomi, who grew up in the household of Kaʻahumanu, was
       kicked out from the church because he refused to denounce who he
       was. After Kamehameha III completed the wall with his hands, he
       and Kaomi continued their relationship.
       By this time, Kaomi began to serve as a subversive symbol to
       Hawaiians of the incompatibility of Hawaiian culture and the
       imposed Calvinist value system. Kamehameha III declared Kaomi to
       be his mōʻī kuʻī or joint ruler — in
       effect his consort and equal. Kaomi’s separation from the
       Calvinist church became more permanent when he tried to revive
       the Hawaiian religion through a group called the Hulumanu.
       Although the Hulumanu were a native religion revivalist
       movement, it was syncretic as it was panentheistic in nature and
       had adopted Christian elements. Kaomi’s movement seems to have
       also had equalitarian underpinnings in their treatment of
       respecting not on the basis of their gender or kūlana
       (class or station) but of only their character and relationship
       to the akua (normally translated as a “god”). This upended the
       ideology of not just the Calvinists — who believed in
       hierarchies in the form of believers and the elect — but also of
       the power of the converted chiefs. It should be noted that this
       was one of the most serious movements to revive the Hawaiian
       religion since the Battle of Kuamoʻo in 1819 and it was
       being led by a māhū.
       [...]
       Kaomi’s time as mōʻī kuʻi was called a
       period of “hana pagana” (pagan works) and “hana Sodoma”
       (Sodomite behavior) by other pastors. Church members were told
       to shun Kaomi and pray for the King to return to being
       “civilized”. Civilized in their eyes.
       [...]
       After a year of Kaomi, Kaua’i Governor Kaikioʻewa, a devout
       Christian, ordered his servant to assassinate Kaomi. According
       to noted 19th century historian Samuel Kamakau in Ruling Chiefs
       of Hawaii, the plan was to kidnap and club Kaomi slowly to
       death. His brutal death was supposed to become a symbol of a new
       Christianized and “civilized” Hawaiʻi. They had already
       kidnapped Kaomi and was in the process of beating him when the
       then Prime Minister and half-sister to the King, Princess
       Elizabeth Kīnaʻu, found out about this and told the
       King. The King then rushed in during the beating to save his
       beloved Kaomi. King Kamehameha III took Kaomi to his home to
       protect him but then removed Kaomi from court. Some accounts
       also say that it was Kaomi who removed himself from the court
       because of the trauma and the hypocrisy of the court as well as
       to protect the King.
       Nonetheless, Kaomi died within the year due his wounds. He died
       alone. The “time of Kaomi” (ka wā o Kaomi) as his
       detractors called it, was over. His rebellion became a morality
       tale told by missionaries on the dangers of the māhū
       while Kaikioʻewa was seen as morally right man. In fact,
       Kaikioʻewa was not tried for his involvement. Kamehameha
       III on the other hand was taught another lesson — that disorder
       and “uncivilized” behavior would jeopardize the sovereignty of
       the Hawaiian Kingdom and being open about his sexuality could
       lead to his own assassination. Kamehameha III began a dramatic
       transformation of the Hawaiian Kingdom through a Magna Carta in
       1839 and a Constitution in 1840, albeit it through a Christian
       voice in order to gain the support of the powerful church.
       [/quote]
  HTML https://medium.com/@adamkeawe/m%C4%81h%C5%AB-resistance-challenging-colonial-structures-of-power-and-gender-6f0c1e96cded
       [quote]In addition to māhū, Kanaka Maoli also
       recognized aikāne relationships. While māhū
       describes an identity and cultural role, aikāne describes
       more of a type of relationship. Aikāne relationships exist
       between two men, two women or one man and one māhū. In
       Hawaiian cultural norms, having an intimate relationship with a
       person of the same gender did not necessarily make one a
       māhū. A person could feel perfectly fine in their
       culturally assigned roles as kane or wahine. But there was a
       strong attraction regardless of the gender. Ranking chiefs or
       people with station normally had consorts and aikāne.
       Kamehameha I, for example, had aikāne as well as
       consorts.[/quote]
       [quote]In regard to the aikāne relationship, Lieutenant
       James King stated that "all the chiefs had them". He recounts a
       tale that Captain Cook was actually asked by one chief to leave
       King behind, considering such an offer a great honor. A number
       of Cook's crew related tales of the tradition with great
       disdain. American adventurer and sailor John Ledyard commented
       in detail about the tradition as he perceived it. The
       relationships were official and in no way hidden. [/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_aik%C4%81ne
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 27, 2021, 3:07 am
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       Purely for entertainment:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhFk_1vlzU
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 3, 2021, 9:50 pm
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       Homophobia is Western!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQYu4iBNiQ
       See also:
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 13, 2021, 4:17 am
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 27, 2022, 11:28 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnsAPAjbnE8
       About Witzke:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Witzke
       [quote]Witzke has described Black Lives Matter as "violent
       terrorists" who want to "stoke societal unrest, and literally
       already has blood on their hands"
       ...
       Witzke is open about her far-right politics and has recommended
       that people read Pat Buchanan's 2001 book The Death of the West
       to understand her political philosophy
       ...
       In October 2020, Witzke defended the far-right organization the
       Proud Boys and said at one point that the Proud Boys exemplified
       "patriotic masculinity" and thanked the group for providing
       security at her campaign rallies.[24][21]
       ...
       Witzke has supported a complete ban on all immigration to the
       United States for ten years.
       ...
       Witzke is openly homophobic and transphobic. She described gay
       people as "enemies" and said that Christians should "reclaim the
       rainbow" and celebrate pride month June as "Christianity
       month".[2]
       In March 2021, Witzke responded to a tweet from Richard Grenell
       about a trans woman who had attended CPAC by claiming that
       transgender people are "mentally ill" and "demonic".[27] She
       also iterated her opposition to both same-sex marriage and gay
       conservatives being welcomed into the Republican Party.[28][29]
       ...
       In November 2021, Witzke again attacked Richard Grenell over his
       Twitter dispute with Arizona state senator Wendy Rogers over
       whether the Republican Party should accept gay conservatives in
       their party, calling him on Telegram "Subversive pervert Richard
       grenell is now attacking Wendy Rogers because she doesn't want
       to hear about the anal sex he is having".[30]
       [/quote]
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 22, 2022, 6:58 pm
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 17, 2023, 8:30 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ4SsNGbKsE
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/trump-supporters-and-the-three-types-of-readers-by-adolf-hitler/msg18959/#msg18959
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: rp Date: August 26, 2023, 8:49 pm
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  HTML https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1695586914869653959<br
       />(video at link)
       [quote]Conservatives say LGBT needs to get out of the classroom
       because kids shouldn’t know anything about teacher’s personal
       lives.
       If this video doesn’t get their attention and send them into a
       rage, you’ll know that’s a dishonest argument.
       [/quote]
       Replies (note the paternalism):
  HTML https://twitter.com/Dr_CovfefeMD/status/1695600846841540629?s=20
       [quote]Its completely consistent
       Kids shouldnt learn about their gay relationships bc its deviant
       & destructive But they should learn about normative healthy
       relationships
       Different things are different.
       Kids shouldnt be exposed to bad things, but they should be
       exposed to good things[/quote]
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 7, 2024, 6:11 pm
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       Our enemies condone:
  HTML https://vdare.com/posts/in-brookfield-ct-normal-boys-smash-legally-required-tampon-dispenser-in-men-s-room
       [quote]Quick rundown on Brookfield. It’s a modestly prosperous
       little place fifty-odd miles north of New York City, population
       seventeen and a half thousand, eighty-six percent white, median
       household income $133,950.
       So what’s going on at the high school? What’s going on is, that
       on January 24th a tampon dispenser was installed in one of the
       school restrooms. Then, within about 20 minutes of its
       installation, the dispenser was vandalized and destroyed
       ...
       I am glad, at least, that the teenage boys of Brookfield, CT
       still have enough spunk in them to smash up the stupid
       dispenser. I hope they do the same to its replacement. Not all
       our young men are emasculated.[/quote]
       Their bloodlines must be eliminated.
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       Re: Homophobia is not American
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 3, 2024, 6:25 pm
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