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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: christianbethel Date: July 20, 2023, 6:19 pm
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 26, 2023, 4:18 pm
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       I guess we should add:
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       Note:
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       [quote]Barbara Millicent "Barbie" Roberts is a fashion doll and
       fictional character created by American businesswoman Ruth
       Handler [/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Handler
       [quote]Ruth Marianna Handler[2][3][4] (née Mosko; November 4,
       1916 – April 27, 2002) was an American businesswoman and
       inventor. She is best known for inventing the Barbie doll in
       1959,[3] and being co-founder of toy manufacturer Mattel
       ...
       Handler was born Ruth Marianna Mosko in Denver, Colorado, to
       Polish-Jewish immigrants Jacob Moskowicz, a blacksmith, and Ida
       Moskowicz, née Rubenstein.[6][/quote]
       Movie version:
       [img width=1280
       height=960]
  HTML https://static.independent.co.uk/2023/07/05/11/margot-robbie-barbie-fashion.jpg[/img]
       Note:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
       [quote]Produced by
       ...
       Mattel CEO Ynon Kreiz
       ...
       Noah Baumbach, would also write the screenplay[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Heyman
       [quote]His paternal grandparents were German Jews[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ynon_Kreiz
       [quote]Born and raised in Israel[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Baumbach
       [quote]His father was Jewish[/quote]
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       Enemy input:
  HTML https://www.takimag.com/article/in-a-barbie-world/
       [quote]Barbie, which has been made with the most perfectly cast
       lead actress imaginable, Margot Robbie. She memorably played
       both Tarantino’s quiet quintessence of feminine beauty
       ...
       The luminous Robbie is ideal as sweet Stereotypical Barbie.
       Why, you might ask, is her character “Stereotypical Barbie”? In
       case you are rusty on your Barbie lore, back in the 1960s–1970s,
       there was only one Barbie and she had diverse friends like black
       Christie and Latina Teresa.
       But, in the minds of little girls, beautiful blonde Barbie was
       so clearly superior to all her friends that in the 1980s Mattel
       gave up on trying to sell side characters and switched to
       everybody being Barbie so they could at least all bask in the
       glory of Extended Barbiehood.
       ...
       there’s only one real Barbie and that’s Robbie, who lights up
       the screen like Marilyn Monroe in Gentlemen Prefer
       Blondes.[/quote]
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: July 27, 2023, 7:48 pm
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       Incels concede the superiority of non-Western aesthetics (ignore
       the HBD foppery and go to the last paragraphs):
  HTML https://incels.is/threads/phenotype-and-skin-color-bones-in-india.285964/
       Phenotype and skin color>>>Bones in India
       [quote]These are the incel phenos in india.Dark skin is a death
       sentence.Indo Melanid,Veddoids and other South Indian phenos
       Indo Melanid
       Veddid
       A few of the chad phenos in india
       Indid
       Indo Nordic
       When I say phenotype and skin is everything I mean it.
       This guy,a recessed bloated wimp skulled piece of joke has Chico
       tier appeal in india and he got roasted real bad when I posted
       his pics on lookism.net
       Rate - Rate Karthik Aryan.Curry actor with Chico tier appeal in
       india
       @zjchaddam
       lookism.net
       Dark skinned chadpreets like Sendhil ramamurthy are incels
       here.Even gigatyrones would be incels here.I've shown a few
       girls pics of Broderick hunter and Tyson Beckford and they
       called even those supermodels ugly.Phenotype and
       colouring>>>>>Bones in india.[/quote]
       This is Karthik Aryan (Bollywood Actor):
       [img width=960
       height=1280]
  HTML https://flxt.tmsimg.com/assets/751985_v9_aa.jpg[/img]
       And this is Sendhil Ramamurthy (Hollywood Actor):
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       I have no problem with Bollywood choosing to ignore subhuman
       phenotypes like Ramamurthy's in favor of someone like Aryan's.
       The colorism actually works in our favor in this case! The
       problem arises when light skinned actors with subhuman
       phenotypes are promoted instead of gracile Aryan dark-skinned
       ones!
       BTW, Ramamurthy's wife:
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       But what more can you expect from "non-White" Eurocentrists
       (including incels), whose ultimate goal is being seen as
       "attractive" by "Whites". In fact, the very reason Ramamurthy is
       seen as attractive is because "Whites" find him attractive,
       which itself is because his phenotype closely resembles those of
       "attractive" "Whites".
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: July 31, 2023, 7:42 am
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  HTML https://ninchanese.com/blog/2016/05/12/western-vs-chinese-beauty-standards/
       #Post#: 21220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2023, 7:18 pm
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       Note in the comments:
       [quote]just a quick note, the second picture of Fan Bing Bing
       depicting her body type is actually of another actress with a
       similar name, Li Bing Bing[/quote]
       [quote]Sadly the last photograph is not Fan Bing Bing but Li
       Bing Bing.[/quote]
       Do you trust a geometry failure who can't even tell the
       difference between these two:
  HTML https://assets.nst.com.my/images/articles/bingbing_1536664517.jpg
  HTML https://wildaid.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Li-Bingbing-e1517606469387.png
       to lecture about faces?
       [quote]Western girls love to be tanned[/quote]
       This is untrue:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_tanning#Cultural_history
       [quote]In the United States and Western Europe before the 1920s,
       tanned skin was associated with the lower classes because they
       worked outdoors and were exposed to the sunlight. Women in
       particular went to great lengths to preserve pale skin, as a
       sign of their "refinement".[31] Women's outdoor clothing styles
       were tailored to protect them against sunlight exposure, with
       full-length sleeves, and sunbonnets and other large hats,
       headscarves, and parasols shielding the head. Lead-[32] and
       arsenic-based cosmetics were used to artificially whiten the
       skin. The preference for fair skin continued until the end of
       the Victorian era.[33][/quote]
       But clearly the author is unaware that colonial-era Western
       civilization is the true Western civilization.
       Back to idiot article:
       [quote]Asian girls prefer white skin.[/quote]
       Not during the Counterculture era:
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  HTML https://img9.doubanio.com/view/photo/l/public/p2611976605.webp
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  HTML https://img15.shop-pro.jp/PA01239/479/product/104855710.jpg
  HTML https://www.unitika.co.jp/amuse/history/scm1993/images/fig-01.jpg
       Heck:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/eroticism-sexuality/msg20292/#msg20292
       But clearly the author only surveyed recent preferences.
       [quote]Today, the Chinese think that girls with
       大眼睛 dà yǎnjīng big eyes are the
       most beautiful, even more so if their eyes have a
       双眼皮 shuāng yǎnpí double-fold
       eyelid. These modern Chinese beauty standards reveal a certain
       fascination with the West, with more and more Chinese girls
       resorting to cosmetic surgery to create those double-fold
       eyelids.
       But do foreigners see the same features in Chinese girls? On the
       contrary, most foreigners seem to prefer Chinese girls with
       slanted, narrow eyes and eyebrows[/quote]
       OK, now I am certain the author is "white"*. It's not even a
       fair comparison. Firstly, "whites" (which everyone knows is what
       the author means by "foreigners") do not prefer girls in general
       to have slanted, narrow eyes. When they prefer Chinese girls
       with slanted, narrow eyes, they are going for exoticism, not
       beauty. At least the author admits this:
       [quote]She looks exotic, and exotism often appeals, as it’s new
       and different.[/quote]
       Secondly, why does the article only discuss which Chinese
       celebrities are considered more beautiful by Chinese fans? If we
       want to properly understand Chinese aesthetics, should we not
       also cover which Hollywood celebrities, for example, are
       considered more beautiful by Chinese fans? But the article does
       not do this. On the other hand, which Chinese celebrities are
       considered more beautiful by "whites" is covered in depth. Why
       the asymmetry? This is what we mean by media colonization.
       "Whites" are allowed to comparatively judge "non-whites", but
       never the reverse. "Non-whites" are only allowed to
       comparatively judge their own ethnicity.
       (* I just checked; my intuition was correct as usual:
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  HTML https://ninchanese.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_4637-2-1024x768.webp<br
       />)
       As for the point about the eyes themselves, we already covered
       this:
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       Continuing with idiot article:
       [quote]The worst face shape a Chinese girl can have according to
       Chinese beauty standards, is a &#22269;&#23383;&#33080;
       guózìli&#462;n square face.[/quote]
       Guozi means oblong, not square. A square face would be fanglian.
       [quote]Let’s look at Gong Li, obviously she is a “goose egg
       face”.
       ...
       [img]
  HTML https://ninchanese.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/comparison3bis.webp[/img][/quote]
       Gong has an oblong face, you geometry failure! Your picture
       merely shows oblong vs square. (Contrast Gong with Li Bingbing
       posted above to see oblong vs oval (a.k.a. "goose egg"
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       />).) Again you prove that you are unqualified to lecture about
       this subject.
       [quote]I bet you guys know this beautiful Chinese woman on the
       left, &#24041;&#20432; Gong Li, the famous Chinese actress which
       was also awarded the “World’s most beautiful Oriental woman”
       title. She’s had a great impact as a Chinese actress in the
       movie industry. Gong Li is also the first Chinese actress to win
       an award in the Venice Film Festival as well as the first
       Chinese ambassador of the French cosmetics brand
       L’Oreal.[/quote]
       Gong is nothing but an example of what I was talking about here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/recommended-music-to-listen-to/msg18853/#msg18853
       [quote]This is a recurring phenomenon throughout non-Western pop
       culture:
       1) A producer in a Westernized country tries to be non-Western.
       2) Orientalist consumers in the West like the product because it
       (trying to be non-Western) feels exotic.
       3) Eurocentrist local consumers observe the producer's prestige
       in the West and consequently overrate the producer.
       4) The producer, in order to maintain their overrated status,
       ends up catering more to consumers in the West than to local
       consumers.
       5) The local consumers (continuing to overrate the producer)
       accept this and hence end up adapting their tastes to match
       those of their counterparts in the West.
       6) Thus the producer who set out to be non-Western ends up
       Orientalizing the local consumer market instead of genuinely
       nationalizing it.[/quote]
       Back to idiot article:
       [quote]As for westerners, their ideal face shape is kind of
       different. Even if the oval-shaped face is very popular,
       according to a survey, the most attractive face for a girl is….
       the square face! You didn’t see that coming, am I wrong?[/quote]
       Again, the author doesn't seem to have the ability to separate
       Westerners from anti-Westerners. Whereas from the Renaissance:
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  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg20354/#msg20354
       to the present-day AI era:
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  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/msg21008/#msg21008
       we see the square face promoted as the Western ideal, during the
       Counterculture era we had:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/msg16972/#msg16972
       Counterculture people are anti-Westerners! The relationship
       between the Counterculture and Western civilization is similar
       to the relationship between Christianity and Judaism. They are
       rebellions against the tradition, not contributions to it!
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: July 31, 2023, 10:02 pm
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       "Do you trust a geometry failure who can't even tell the
       difference between these two:"
       Yeah, that's what I thought. Searching for Fan Bing Bing on
       Google images brought up a noticeably Turanian/heart-shaped face
       with high cheekbones, certainly not the goose egg shape the
       author was describing.
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: July 31, 2023, 10:48 pm
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       We see the same generalizations as with India. An Aryan-looking
       actor is assumed to be popular only because of alleged
       Eurocentrism, and Westerners claim to be "unbiased" toward
       "non-European" features, when in reality they are merely
       exoticising those features.
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 1, 2023, 7:45 pm
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       Time to laugh at our enemies again:
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       [quote]My son and daughter are both Millennials, ages 28 and 30.
       They are normal—physically and mentally healthy, thank God,
       smart and sociable, better-than-average looking.[/quote]
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: August 5, 2023, 7:28 pm
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  HTML https://incels.is/threads/square-jaw-extremely-unpopular-among-asians-least-preferred-face.176817/
       [quote]
       SuicideFuel Square jaw extremely unpopular among Asians (least
       preferred face)
       Eight choices of facial shape were given in the questionnaire:
       heart, square, pear, rectangle, round, oval, diamond and oblong,
       provided as illustrations without a written description. The
       same eyes, nose, and lips were included in all of the sketches
       but no hair to understand the preferences of the responders for
       facial shape without including gender-specific features. The
       facial shapes most preferred by responders were oval (39.94%,
       long, thin face with pointy chin), followed by heart shape
       (24.06%, inverted triangle shape), and oblong shape (15.17%,
       long, thin, pointy chin) (Fig. 1). The square facial shape with
       a square jaw angle and chin was the least preferred facial
       shape.
       [img]
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       Surgical
       and non-surgical aesthetic treatments are very popular
       throughout Asia and in particular in China. With the
       globalisation and immigration of Chinese people to other
       countries where many seek treatment from Western-trained
       doctors, it is important to understand the ideals of beauty
       amongst Chinese people so as to achieve optimal results. We
       conducted an online survey to understand the preference of Han
       Chinese laypersons for facial shape, profile (straight, convex,
       concave), jaw angle and shape, and shape of the chin, nose, and
       lips. In addition, the participants were asked about their
       educational level, geographic location, likelihood to have
       cosmetic surgery, preference for surgical or non-surgical
       cosmetic procedures and whether “being beautiful” would affect
       their daily life. A total of 1417 responses were collected from
       599 male and 818 female participants, the majority of them who
       were 25–35 years old (58.93%). The responses showed that the
       majority of participants preferred an oval face shape, with a
       smoothly tapered jaw angle for both men and women, round and
       pointy chin for both genders, straight to concave nose profile
       and full lips with well-defined cupid’s bow. Most responders
       indicated they were not willing to undergo cosmetic surgery;
       however, when given a choice between surgical and non-surgical
       cosmetic procedures, 82.22% of the participants preferred
       non-surgical procedures. The majority of respondents (83%)
       thought that being beautiful has an effect on daily life and
       improves quality of life.
       Level of Evidence V
       This journal requires that authors assign a level of evidence to
       each article. For a full description of these Evidence-Based
       Medicine ratings, please refer to the Table of Contents or the
       online Instructions to Authors www.springer.com/00266.
       Keywords
       Aesthetic medicine Facial aesthetics Chinese Chinese faces
       Chinese facial aesthetics Facial shape Facial profile Nose Lips
       Jaw angle Jawline Chin
       This paper was made open access with funds provided by King’s
       College London
       Introduction
       The idea of a universal standard for facial beauty is a widely
       debated topic and is of interest to researchers, sociologists,
       and aesthetic professionals including plastic surgeons
       orthodontists, dermatologists and aesthetic practitioners.
       Ideals of facial beauty, perception of attractiveness, and
       preferences for different shapes and forms of facial features
       were previously believed to vary greatly amongst different
       cultures and between historical times. For example, in many
       Asian cultures, having white skin is considered a significant
       factor in female beauty and hence skin whitening is very popular
       [1]. Other examples of features perceived as attractive and
       modifications made to obtain such features include having a very
       long neck, stretched earlobes and lips, different variations of
       facial tattoos and paintings, and changes to the shape and size
       of teeth. However, there is evidence to suggest that although
       there is heterogeneity in the specific features, shapes, or
       characteristics that are considered beautiful in different parts
       of the world; the broader ideals of beauty and the goals of
       beautification are universal.
       Across all human cultures characteristics such as averageness,
       symmetry, harmony, and balance are key features of perceived
       attractiveness and facial beauty [2, 3]. Recent studies have
       reported that perception of attractiveness is consistent
       independent of race, nationality, or age [4]. In a study by
       Cunningham et al., men of different races were asked to judge
       the attractiveness of females from their own and different
       racial groups. The study reported that Asian, Hispanic, and
       White men were consistent in their judgment of female
       attractiveness, independent of race. All three groups of men
       provided similar ratings for a panel of Asian, Hispanic, and
       White female faces, and the mean ratings did not appear to be
       influenced by exposure to Western media [5]. A similar study by
       Rhodes et al. found a preference for symmetry and averageness in
       facial features which was cross-cultural; similar judgements of
       attractiveness were reported by Chinese and Japanese
       participants in the study with no preference for own-race over
       other-race pictures presented [6]. Furthermore, in a
       meta-analytic and theoretical review, Langlois et al. reported
       that within and across cultures there appears to be agreement
       about who is attractive and who is not [7]. The theory that
       beauty standards are innate has been a subject of debate and can
       be supported by a study that was carried out by Langlois et al.
       in which infants (2–3 and 6–8 months old) were shown faces that
       were pre-rated as attractive and unattractive [8]. Both groups
       of infants looked significantly longer at the pre-rated
       attractive faces [8]. This study found that the preferences for
       attractive faces exists from early infancy and remain consistent
       across ages, gender, and ethnicity. Further supporting the
       theory of innate beauty standards is the consensus paper,
       “Changing Trends, Attitudes, and Concepts of Asian Beauty” by
       Liew et al., in which an expert panel agreed that whilst
       retaining distinct ethnic features, beautiful people of all
       races show similarity in many facial characteristics [3].
       Therefore, the general principles of beauty and aesthetic
       enhancement appear to be relatively homogeneous independent of
       race and cultural background, with similar aesthetic goals that
       are only modestly influenced by culture, environment, and media.
       Despite the cross-cultural homogeneity of the broader ideals of
       human beauty and facial aesthetics, the more nuanced variations
       which exist between different races and cultures remain
       important considerations for the aesthetic professional. The
       facial shape of Asians, and Chinese in particular, is different
       from Caucasians, with an increased bizygomatic, bitemporal and
       bigonal width, retruded forehead, orbital rims, medial maxilla,
       pyriform margins, chin, and low nasal bridge with deficient
       anterior projection [3]. Asians also age differently than the
       Western population, which requires the development of
       race-specific management and treatment planning strategies.
       Furthermore, in Asia the demand for cosmetic procedures is high
       amongst the younger generations and their demands and
       expectations are different from the middle-aged and older
       individuals who would typically be the largest demographic for
       cosmetic procedures in Western countries [3]. Importantly, in
       China and Asia, facial physiognomy and facial features are
       important in one’s daily life, as self-confidence, and marriage
       and career prospects are influenced by appearance. Assessments
       of individuals’ mental or moral character, fortune, and future
       are often judged based on facial features [9]. Certain features
       of the face are believed to bring about luck or good fortune and
       vice versa [10]. For example, the mandibular angle is very
       important in female facial shape in Asia as “a woman who has a
       wide and square face is thought to bring unhappiness to her
       husband [11]”. Despite the large and growing demand for
       aesthetic procedures (surgical and non-surgical) amongst the
       Chinese and Asian population, the ideals of beauty specific to
       these groups are not well studied and are poorly understood both
       inside and outside Asia. Given this situation, an enhanced
       understanding of the ideals of facial beauty amongst Asian
       people would be of great value to aesthetic professionals.
       We conducted an online survey to better understand the ideals of
       beauty amongst Han Chinese laypersons with regards to individual
       facial features including facial shape, facial profile, nose and
       lips, jaw angle, and chin shape for men and women. The survey
       also aimed to better understand people’s preference for surgical
       or non-surgical cosmetic procedures and the importance of “being
       beautiful” in daily life.
       Methods
       Survey Design and Distribution
       To determine the key ideals of facial beauty amongst the Han
       Chinese population, an online survey of the general population
       was carried out. The survey was conducted through a Chinese
       online platform designed for such surveys (www.wjx.cn). There
       were no specifications for selection of the participants as we
       wanted to have as wide a sample as possible including all ages,
       both sexes, and all regions of China. A link to the survey was
       available online and was disseminated via the survey website
       itself and also via a popular Chinese social media channel
       (WeChat) by the first author. Multiple-choice questions were
       used with a random sample frame. A total of 18 questions were
       asked including collection of basic demographic data, preference
       for facial features including facial shape, facial profile,
       nose, lips, jaw angle, and chin shape as well as preference for
       cosmetic procedures (surgical vs. non-surgical). The full
       questionnaire can be found in the Supplementary Materials.
       Simple sketches were provided to illustrate facial features, and
       these illustrations were placed in a random order to remove bias
       from participants’ decision making. The forms could only be
       completed once by each individual and answers could not be
       modified after submission.
       Statistical Methods
       Survey responses were collected and summarised using descriptive
       statistics.
       Results
       Participants
       A total of 1417 responses were collected from 599 men and 818
       women. Most of the responders were aged 30–35 years (26.64%),
       followed by 25–30 years (29.29%) with an average age of 33.5
       years and 90% of the responders had a university education
       (Table 1). The 1417 responders represented 32 provinces across
       China including Hong Kong S.A.R., with a significant
       representation from Shanghai, Beijing, and Guangdong. There were
       no participants from Macau.
       [/quote]
       Accurate comments:
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       [quote]V shaped, tappered jaw = class, elegance, urban look. In
       the west it's the opposite. JFL at denying the impact culture
       has on perception of "attractive". If Angelina Julie was a
       gookeese she would be shaving that mandible off already.[/quote]
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 8, 2023, 4:19 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Time to be entertained by our enemies' bad taste again:
  HTML https://incels.is/threads/who-was-your-celebrity-crush-guys.513108/
       [quote]hannah murray[/quote]
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       [quote]Marilyn monroe[/quote]
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       [quote]Catherine Zeta-Jones[/quote]
       [img width=808
       height=1280]
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       [quote]Emilia Clarke[/quote]
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       [quote]Ellen Page[/quote]
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLekt6fGous
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