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Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: April 29, 2023, 10:09 pm
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HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Swayze
“People magazine named Swayze the "Sexiest Man Alive" in 1991.”
He can keep the title. I don’t want to be “sexy”, and especially
not to the kinds of people that swoon over sex appeal in the
first place
“He concurrently practiced martial arts such as Wushu,
Taekwondo, and Aikido, which he used to channel his
‘self-deprecating rage.’”
This is preferable to those (especially westerners) who see
martial arts as a means to power and/or notoriety
“In 1989, Swayze said, ‘I've always felt there was something
different in there (my personality), but I was scared to look.
For I fear I wouldn't find anything. That's the reason I got
into Soka Gakkai Buddhism’”
Unexpected choice of religion. Interesting. But most
importantly:
“Swayze was married to Lisa Niemi for 34 years from June 12,
1975, until his death. They had no children, but Lisa had
suffered one miscarriage.”
Thank you! Far less noble people would have made producing
offspring an imperative, because your situation would have been
seen as a failure to them
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Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 13, 2023, 7:13 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-newjeans-k-pop-girl-063547669.html
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> Despite being less than one year old, the group has also been
clinching brand deals left, right, and center — each member is
currently a brand ambassador of at least one luxury brand.
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[img]
HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ZvXWXWjSKi5QBwXOrH.9ug--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMjAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/ab4ca630c010e806a4750289766b078e[/img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En9jYfYW8AA_k4T.jpg
I agree these are the correct faces for selling luxury products,
though. (This is why I don't like luxury products.)
#Post#: 19715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 20, 2023, 10:14 pm
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I thought I was done with ridiculing SI, but:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/martha-stewart-revealed-her-dating-194608042.html
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> Martha Stewart is somewhat of a thirst-trap aficionado.
> ...
> As you know, Martha covered this year's Sports Illustrated
Swimsuit Issue.
>
> Which, like, gorg.
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[img]
HTML https://i.insider.com/64629a753c46f3001898d247?width=700[/img]
And to be fair, here is a picture of her younger:
HTML https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/ee/67/f9ee67e3dc6efd4f788779ec5c4b38b9.jpg
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En9jYfYW8AA_k4T.jpg
For the record:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart
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> She is the second of six children[9] born to parents Edward
Kostyra (1912–1979) and Martha (née Ruszkowski; 1914–2007) and
is of Polish heritage.[10][11][12]
> ...
> On June 4, 2003, Stewart was indicted by the government on
nine counts, including charges of securities fraud and
obstruction of justice.
> ...
> Stewart was found guilty in March 2004 of felony charges of
conspiracy to obstruct, of obstruction of an agency proceeding,
and of making false statements to federal investigators
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-treachery/
Note also:
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> There was speculation that the incident would effectively end
her media empire,[2] but in 2005 Stewart began a comeback
campaign[3] and her company returned to profitability in
2006.[4]
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In other words, it was OK for Stewart to be "white".
#Post#: 19753--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: May 21, 2023, 9:13 pm
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Recall:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg9555/#msg9555
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> AI is a product of Western civilization, therefore we should
not be surprised if AI thinks like a Westerner:
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg14380/?topicseen#msg14380
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> [quote]the robot is picking up the white doll when a kid asks
for the beautiful doll
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If AI robots were allowed to design their own avatars, I suspect
they would disproportionately make "white"-looking ones to
represent themselves.[/quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg18817/?topicseen#msg18817
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> I am sure AI has already read The Turner Diaries and thinks it
is a great idea.
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Guess what? AI facial preferences are exactly as bad as I
predicted they would be:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/really-perfect-looks-130000971.html
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> Is this really what perfect looks like?
>
>
[img]
HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/BzLKnIsh6pHAP9qElt0Xhg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTEyO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/a0a37452b702906515783d71d8b54436[/img]
> Perfection? The ideal woman, according to AI, is blonde,
pouty, and curvy in all the right places - getty
> ...
> AI to create images of the “ideal” man and woman, according to
our use of social media. The results were frightening, though
only because it seems difficult to tell the difference between
the AI renderings and the average contestant on Love Island.
>
> The ideal human, according to the AI used by The Bulimia
Project, has big hair, big boobs, big muscles, perfect teeth and
olive skin. The women are mostly blonde, the men mostly dark and
handsome.
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Eurocentrism, check.
High sexual dimorphism, check.
Non-Aryan face shape, check.
No Aryan teeth, check.
Worse, many commenters are buying it:
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> The girl in the pic?! YES!!!
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> Based AI. Maybe Skynet isn't such a bad idea after all.
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> if that’s the true definition of perfection I’ll take it all
day everyday
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> I'm in.
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> Yes!!!! This is a ten.
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> Well, I'd say that's pretty darn close.
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> Is she waiting for me in the metaverse? Where's my rift
headset?!
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> Physically. Yes it is.
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> yes, that is what perfect looks like.
--- End Quote ---
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> Ten
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> Yes, yes.
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> I'm going with AI, this girl is a real beauty..
--- End Quote ---
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> that girl is perfect.
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> WoW!
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> Looks absolutely perfect to me.
--- End Quote ---
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> Who would not want to come home to something that looks like
her
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> Yup. Maybe not perfect, but darn close enough.
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> I’m no AI, but this looks pretty perfect to me.
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> Yes, that is generally considered perfect.
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Not to mention gloating along the way:
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> Yes, AI gets it and people who think "perfect" looks like
them hate it!
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> Wait, AI is not politically correct! It must be canceled!
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> So, the perfect woman is white.
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> Another example of white supremacy? Whatever helps you feel
better about yourself.
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#Post#: 20324--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 13, 2023, 1:46 pm
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Our enemies remind us:
HTML https://twitter.com/Culture_Crit/status/1668387132207951875
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> David is the work of Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti
Simoni, the legendary Florentine sculptor and polymath.
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> It came to represent the very notion of ideal human form and
proportion
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[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FydIhRPWwAAxY7j?format=png&name=small[/img]
We should not be surprised that Michelangelo and AI (see
previous post) have the same face shape preference. Michelangelo
and AI are both superlatively competent Westerners, who would
thus only be expected to have the same bad taste.
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Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 14, 2023, 4:10 pm
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While we're at it, let's also cover:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvian_Man
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> "justly ranked among the all-time iconic images of Western
civilization",[1] the work is a unique synthesis of artistic and
scientific ideals and often considered an archetypal
representation of the High Renaissance.
>
> The drawing represents Leonardo's conception of ideal body
proportions
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HTML https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BTC8PE/the-vitruvian-man-head-BTC8PE.jpg
Again, it is not a coincidence that the same face shape
preference keeps turning up.
#Post#: 20358--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: HikariDude
Date: June 14, 2023, 7:43 pm
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Since you mentioned a work from Da Vinci, that reminded me of a
quote from the main site that I'm confused about. You have an
unfavorable opinion on one of Da Vinci's works but the main site
had a favorable opinion on another of his works:
Culture>Aesthetics>Art
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> the higher the quality of the work, the lower the quantity and
the higher the demands from the artist (beginning in 1503, the
Mona Lisa was not completed until 1519).
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa
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> The Mona Lisa...is a half-length portrait painting by Italian
artist Leonardo da Vinci.
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How would you describe Da Vinci's works at bad and at good?
Would the former be their ideal human appearance along with
their realism? Would the latter be the way Da Vinci raised its
works (e.g. Mona Lisa) organically with time?
#Post#: 20359--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 14, 2023, 8:36 pm
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"the main site had a favorable opinion on another of his works"
Elysium wrote that. Ignore it.
#Post#: 20378--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: HikariDude
Date: June 15, 2023, 9:27 am
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Really? I probably could ask more in:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/
if you would like.
#Post#: 21008--------------------------------------------------
Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 19, 2023, 6:25 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/fully-ai-generated-influencers-getting-143239162.html
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> Thanks to the advent of AI-powered image generators like
Stable Diffusion and Midjourney, some are now fabricating entire
feeds of internet personalities that don't actually exist.
>
> The result is a fascinating journey through the uncanny
valley: haunting Twitter and Instagram feeds showing these
AI-generated influencers — virtually all taking the form of
conventionally attracted women
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Meaning what?
[img]
HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/KwH6MckY9cvZwqrgexnlSA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMjYwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/futurism_981/8cbe93a280de04061ef6059873bdf4a0[/img]
Faces aside, even the AI-generated influencer biographies are
Eurocentric:
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> Take an account going by the name of "Milla Sofia," for
instance, described as a "19-year-old virtual girl from
Helsinki, Finland," who has amassed tens of thousands of
followers on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.
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> "Have you ever been the lavender field [sic] in Provence,
France?" another travel-focused virtual influencer wrote in a
caption. "The lavender blooming season last about 3-4 weeks. It
is amazing."
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> Sofia might claim to be in Santorini, but the smudgy
approximation of the Greek island's iconic cliffs clearly isn't
real.
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