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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: SirGalahad Date: April 29, 2023, 10:09 pm
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  HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Swayze
       “People magazine named Swayze the "Sexiest Man Alive" in 1991.”
       He can keep the title. I don’t want to be “sexy”, and especially
       not to the kinds of people that swoon over sex appeal in the
       first place
       “He concurrently practiced martial arts such as Wushu,
       Taekwondo, and Aikido, which he used to channel his
       ‘self-deprecating rage.’”
       This is preferable to those (especially westerners) who see
       martial arts as a means to power and/or notoriety
       “In 1989, Swayze said, ‘I've always felt there was something
       different in there (my personality), but I was scared to look.
       For I fear I wouldn't find anything. That's the reason I got
       into Soka Gakkai Buddhism’”
       Unexpected choice of religion. Interesting. But most
       importantly:
       “Swayze was married to Lisa Niemi for 34 years from June 12,
       1975, until his death. They had no children, but Lisa had
       suffered one miscarriage.”
       Thank you! Far less noble people would have made producing
       offspring an imperative, because your situation would have been
       seen as a failure to them
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 13, 2023, 7:13 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-newjeans-k-pop-girl-063547669.html
       [quote]Despite being less than one year old, the group has also
       been clinching brand deals left, right, and center — each member
       is currently a brand ambassador of at least one luxury
       brand.[/quote]
       [img]
  HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ZvXWXWjSKi5QBwXOrH.9ug--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMjAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/ab4ca630c010e806a4750289766b078e[/img]
  HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En9jYfYW8AA_k4T.jpg
       I agree these are the correct faces for selling luxury products,
       though. (This is why I don't like luxury products.)
       #Post#: 19715--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 20, 2023, 10:14 pm
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       I thought I was done with ridiculing SI, but:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/martha-stewart-revealed-her-dating-194608042.html
       [quote]Martha Stewart is somewhat of a thirst-trap aficionado.
       ...
       As you know, Martha covered this year's Sports Illustrated
       Swimsuit Issue.
       Which, like, gorg.[/quote]
       [img]
  HTML https://i.insider.com/64629a753c46f3001898d247?width=700[/img]
       And to be fair, here is a picture of her younger:
  HTML https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/ee/67/f9ee67e3dc6efd4f788779ec5c4b38b9.jpg
  HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En9jYfYW8AA_k4T.jpg
       For the record:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart
       [quote]She is the second of six children[9] born to parents
       Edward Kostyra (1912–1979) and Martha (née Ruszkowski;
       1914–2007) and is of Polish heritage.[10][11][12]
       ...
       On June 4, 2003, Stewart was indicted by the government on nine
       counts, including charges of securities fraud and obstruction of
       justice.
       ...
       Stewart was found guilty in March 2004 of felony charges of
       conspiracy to obstruct, of obstruction of an agency proceeding,
       and of making false statements to federal investigators[/quote]
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-treachery/
       Note also:
       [quote]There was speculation that the incident would effectively
       end her media empire,[2] but in 2005 Stewart began a comeback
       campaign[3] and her company returned to profitability in
       2006.[4][/quote]
       In other words, it was OK for Stewart to be "white".
       #Post#: 19753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 21, 2023, 9:13 pm
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       Recall:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg9555/#msg9555
       [quote]AI is a product of Western civilization, therefore we
       should not be surprised if AI thinks like a Westerner:[/quote]
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg14380/?topicseen#msg14380
       [quote][quote]the robot is picking up the white doll when a kid
       asks for the beautiful doll[/quote]
       If AI robots were allowed to design their own avatars, I suspect
       they would disproportionately make "white"-looking ones to
       represent themselves.[/quote]
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg18817/?topicseen#msg18817
       [quote]I am sure AI has already read The Turner Diaries and
       thinks it is a great idea.[/quote]
       Guess what? AI facial preferences are exactly as bad as I
       predicted they would be:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/really-perfect-looks-130000971.html
       [quote]Is this really what perfect looks like?
       [img]
  HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/BzLKnIsh6pHAP9qElt0Xhg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTEyO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/a0a37452b702906515783d71d8b54436[/img]
       Perfection? The ideal woman, according to AI, is blonde, pouty,
       and curvy in all the right places - getty
       ...
       AI to create images of the “ideal” man and woman, according to
       our use of social media. The results were frightening, though
       only because it seems difficult to tell the difference between
       the AI renderings and the average contestant on Love Island.
       The ideal human, according to the AI used by The Bulimia
       Project, has big hair, big boobs, big muscles, perfect teeth and
       olive skin. The women are mostly blonde, the men mostly dark and
       handsome.[/quote]
       Eurocentrism, check.
       High sexual dimorphism, check.
       Non-Aryan face shape, check.
       No Aryan teeth, check.
       Worse, many commenters are buying it:
       [quote]The girl in the pic?! YES!!! [/quote]
       [quote]Based AI. Maybe Skynet isn't such a bad idea after
       all.[/quote]
       [quote]if that’s the true definition of perfection I’ll take it
       all day everyday[/quote]
       [quote]I'm in.[/quote]
       [quote]Yes!!!! This is a ten.[/quote]
       [quote]Well, I'd say that's pretty darn close.[/quote]
       [quote]Is she waiting for me in the metaverse? Where's my rift
       headset?![/quote]
       [quote]Physically. Yes it is. [/quote]
       [quote]yes, that is what perfect looks like.[/quote]
       [quote]Ten[/quote]
       [quote]Yes, yes.[/quote]
       [quote]I'm going with AI, this girl is a real beauty..[/quote]
       [quote]that girl is perfect. [/quote]
       [quote]WoW![/quote]
       [quote]Looks absolutely perfect to me.[/quote]
       [quote]Who would not want to come home to something that looks
       like her[/quote]
       [quote]Yup.  Maybe not perfect, but darn close enough.[/quote]
       [quote]I’m no AI, but this looks pretty perfect to me.[/quote]
       [quote]Yes, that is generally considered perfect.[/quote]
       Not to mention gloating along the way:
       [quote]Yes,  AI gets it and people who think "perfect" looks
       like them hate it![/quote]
       [quote]Wait, AI is not politically correct! It must be
       canceled![/quote]
       [quote]So, the perfect woman is white.[/quote]
       [quote]Another example of white supremacy? Whatever helps you
       feel better about yourself.[/quote]
       #Post#: 20324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 13, 2023, 1:46 pm
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       Our enemies remind us:
  HTML https://twitter.com/Culture_Crit/status/1668387132207951875
       [quote]David is the work of Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti
       Simoni, the legendary Florentine sculptor and polymath.[/quote]
       [quote]It came to represent the very notion of ideal human form
       and proportion[/quote]
       [img]
  HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FydIhRPWwAAxY7j?format=png&name=small[/img]
       We should not be surprised that Michelangelo and AI (see
       previous post) have the same face shape preference. Michelangelo
       and AI are both superlatively competent Westerners, who would
       thus only be expected to have the same bad taste.
       #Post#: 20354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 14, 2023, 4:10 pm
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       While we're at it, let's also cover:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvian_Man
       [quote]"justly ranked among the all-time iconic images of
       Western civilization",[1] the work is a unique synthesis of
       artistic and scientific ideals and often considered an
       archetypal representation of the High Renaissance.
       The drawing represents Leonardo's conception of ideal body
       proportions[/quote]
       [img width=1280
       height=813]
  HTML https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BTC8PE/the-vitruvian-man-head-BTC8PE.jpg[/img]
       Again, it is not a coincidence that the same face shape
       preference keeps turning up.
       #Post#: 20358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: HikariDude Date: June 14, 2023, 7:43 pm
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       Since you mentioned a work from Da Vinci, that reminded me of a
       quote from the main site that I'm confused about. You have an
       unfavorable opinion on one of Da Vinci's works but the main site
       had a favorable opinion on another of his works:
       Culture>Aesthetics>Art
       [quote]the higher the quality of the work, the lower the
       quantity and the higher the demands from the artist (beginning
       in 1503, the Mona Lisa was not completed until 1519).[/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa
       [quote]The Mona Lisa...is a half-length portrait painting by
       Italian artist Leonardo da Vinci.[/quote]
       How would you describe Da Vinci's works at bad and at good?
       Would the former be their ideal human appearance along with
       their realism? Would the latter be the way Da Vinci raised its
       works (e.g. Mona Lisa) organically with time?
       #Post#: 20359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 14, 2023, 8:36 pm
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       "the main site had a favorable opinion on another of his works"
       Elysium wrote that. Ignore it.
       #Post#: 20378--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: HikariDude Date: June 15, 2023, 9:27 am
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       Really? I probably could ask more in:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/
       if you would like.
       #Post#: 21008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 19, 2023, 6:25 pm
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  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/fully-ai-generated-influencers-getting-143239162.html
       [quote]Thanks to the advent of AI-powered image generators like
       Stable Diffusion and Midjourney, some are now fabricating entire
       feeds of internet personalities that don't actually exist.
       The result is a fascinating journey through the uncanny valley:
       haunting Twitter and Instagram feeds showing these AI-generated
       influencers — virtually all taking the form of conventionally
       attracted women[/quote]
       Meaning what?
       [img]
  HTML https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/KwH6MckY9cvZwqrgexnlSA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMjYwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/futurism_981/8cbe93a280de04061ef6059873bdf4a0[/img]
       Faces aside, even the AI-generated influencer biographies are
       Eurocentric:
       [quote]Take an account going by the name of "Milla Sofia," for
       instance, described as a "19-year-old virtual girl from
       Helsinki, Finland," who has amassed tens of thousands of
       followers on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.[/quote]
       [quote]"Have you ever been the lavender field [sic] in Provence,
       France?" another travel-focused virtual influencer wrote in a
       caption. "The lavender blooming season last about 3-4 weeks. It
       is amazing."[/quote]
       [quote]Sofia might claim to be in Santorini, but the smudgy
       approximation of the Greek island's iconic cliffs clearly isn't
       real.[/quote]
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