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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: antihellenistic Date: February 20, 2023, 4:09 am
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       [quote]In terms of personality traits, extraversion,
       agreeableness and openness to experience were positively
       correlated with an increased focus on faces. Individuals who
       reported higher empathy levels were also more likely to focus
       more on faces.[/quote]
       [quote]In terms of personality traits, extraversion,
       agreeableness and openness to experience were positively
       correlated with an increased focus on faces.[/quote]
       Characteristics of westerners, they tend to open to many
       experiences which given by nature which created by Yahweh
       [quote]Individuals who reported higher empathy levels were also
       more likely to focus more on faces. ...Meanwhile, participants
       who scored highly on certain other facets of psychopathology,
       including social anxiety, depression and alexithymia, tended to
       focus less on faces.[/quote]
       The empathic people tend to got an anxiety and depression,
       seeing most of people are insensitive and indifferent to moral
       ethics which make the  people with high sense of empathiy hardly
       to got comfortable living. So, not all people who focus less on
       faces are barbaric
       #Post#: 18136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 24, 2023, 11:36 pm
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       The SI bad taste continues:
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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 8:31 am
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       [img]
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       The right is the "soyjak" face btw, portmanteau of "soyface" and
       "wojak":
       This is the wojak meme:
       [img width=1280
       height=720]
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       #Post#: 18151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 9:03 am
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       In the SI photos, note the robustness of the skull, in contrast
       to the gracility of the body (which as you have pointed out
       seems to be the case with most Western models). This seems to be
       the degenerate Western ideal: robust face + gracile body. This
       is in contrast to non-Western civilizaitons where (prior to
       Westernization), a gracile face was the ideal in addition to a
       gracile body.
       #Post#: 18159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 26, 2023, 4:53 pm
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       "In the SI photos, note the robustness of the skull, in contrast
       to the gracility of the body"
       I hope you are only referring to:
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       and not:
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       which are far from gracile bodies (note wrist/ankle thickness).
       "non-Western civilizaitons where (prior to Westernization), a
       gracile face was the ideal in addition to a gracile body."
       This is not true. Ancient statues variously idealized robustness
       as well as gracility. They also get wrong the characteristics
       associated with robustness, as I have complained in the past:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-treachery/msg464/#msg464
       [quote]By the way, this is why I can't stand Buddha statues with
       deliberately ultra-wide faces:
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       In my mind there is absolutely no doubt that Siddhartha looked
       nothing like this, and to even mentally visualize him looking
       like a stereotypical CEO(!!!) is surely spiritually corrosive.
       That most supposed Buddhists see no problem with such statues
       reflects how degenerate mainstream Buddhism has become.[/quote]
       #Post#: 18160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 5:01 pm
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       "I hope you are only referring to:"
       Of course! However, the robust/curvy type seems to be idealized
       more by False Leftists than rightists from my observation.
       "This is not true. Ancient statues variously idealized
       robustness as well as gracility. They also get wrong the
       characteristics associated with robustness, as I have complained
       in the past"
       Ok. But would you say that for women at least, the ideal was
       gracile face + gracile body?
       #Post#: 18162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 26, 2023, 5:27 pm
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       "for women at least"
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       #Post#: 18165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 7:08 pm
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       Fair points. But I will say that at the very least, from my
       observations, Aryan (or reduced Aryan) faces were idealized with
       the sexually dimorphic body more frequently than non-Aryan
       faces, in contrast to Western Civilization which idealizes
       non-Aryan faces on both non-Aryan bodies and Aryan bodies:
       Example: Ideal "Padmini" women according to Indian philosophers
       (reduced Aryan):
       [img width=1280
       height=744]
  HTML https://www.lonelyphilosopher.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/padmini-woman-facial-structure.png[/img]
       But I could be wrong.
       #Post#: 18170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 26, 2023, 8:43 pm
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       The SI bad taste stories keep coming in:
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       [img]
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       [img]
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       "robust/curvy type"
       To clarify, robustness/gracility refer to the skeleton.
       Curviness/Non-curviness is also affected by somatotype. It is
       possible to be gracile and curvy simultaneously with sufficient
       endomorphy/mesomorphy.
       #Post#: 18171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
       By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 8:51 pm
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       " It is possible to be gracile and curvy simultaneously with
       sufficient endomorphy/mesomorphy."
       Yes. Some rightists who like thin women also prefer them to be
       endomorphic, since it signifies fertility and is ideal for
       childbearing.
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