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Aryan teeth
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 4, 2020, 12:18 am
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digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1186&context=
nebanthro
[quote]The advent of agriculture is associated w~h the reduction
of tooth size, crowding, increases in caries, and increased
occurrence of periodontal disease. Archaeological evidence
suggests that humans adopted new ways of processing food during
the Neolithic which included the use of grinding stones and
cooking in ceramic vessels (Larsen 2006; Meller et al. 2009).
This is supported in Neolithic samples by a pattern of decreased
skull size and shape and dental microwear evidence (Larsen 2006;
Sardi et al. 2004). Bone responds to high amounts of physical
activity and stress by increasing in mass (Larsen 2006: 16).
Paleolithic hunter-gatherers likely had larger skulls than
Neolithic peoples due to their more mobile and active lifestyle
(Sardi et al. 2004). "It is accepted that masticatory forces
regulate craniofacial growth and the stress is mainly due to the
food consistency that causes variations in the mastication
movement" (Sardi et al. 2004: 141). This means that facial
structures are suited to individual chewing needs. When new
preparation and processing methods were introduced, foods became
softer and easier to chew. Over time this change in masticatory
function contributed to an overall "gracilization" of the human
skull and resulted in a smaller human face with reduced jaws and
teeth (Larsen 1991, 2006; Sardi et al. 2004). Reduction of the
face negatively affected human oral health because human teeth
did not reduce proportionately to the jaw and crowding resulted
(Larsen 2006).[/quote]
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This must be why people have trouble with their so called
“Wisdom tooth”. I read that humans evolved to have this tooth
specifically to eat meat.
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There are a lot of weird conjectures about wisdom teeth floating
around the internet. With wisdom teeth included, humans have the
same number of teeth as most other apes and monkeys--i.e. it's a
very old result of shared evolutionary history. Wisdom teeth
erupt later than other teeth since the jaw basically is not big
enough until the late teens/20s to accommodate them.
Indeed, smaller jaws cause problems accommodating an extra molar
(I suspect more people will have problems on their lower jaw
than upper jaw). Interestingly, some people don't grow wisdom
teeth at all! I do not know if there have been any studies done
on how this correlates to their jaw size.
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bigthink.com/surprising-science/diet-f-and-v-
[quote]The Neolithic Revolution fundamentally changed how
humanity went about the business of surviving. With the rise of
farming, humans no longer had to travel into inclement climates
following the migration of animals, their former pervasive food
source. Instead, fields of grain were cultivated, and, in turn,
permanent settlements were created — civilization was
established.
But while the social and economic effects of this revolution are
apparent, other significant effects of switching to farming on
our daily lives are more subtle. Among them is a minor change in
our anatomy that allows us to make the "f" and "v" sounds.
...
F and V are labiodentals, which means to make their sounds you
have to raise your lower lip to your top teeth. This is easy
enough with a slight overbite, but if your teeth are closer to
being even, as the skulls of our ancient ancestors suggest was
once more common, the sounds become harder to make.
In a society where none of the food is softened by processing,
most people are going to end up with no overbite at all by the
time they're adults. In a society with softer, processed foods,
such as grains, an overbite as an adult becomes possible and
eventually the standard. This, more than anything, makes a
language that uses labiodentals practical.[/quote]
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When looking at pics of certain groups I've noticed that
vegetarian/vegan groups have similar skull shapes
(oval/strawberry) for the most part. Same, with the opposition
(wide, broad).
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The headline is wrong, should be 7400:
www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/4700-year-o
ld-tooth-provides-insight-first-farmers-iberian-peninsula-020516
[quote]Eight thousand years ago, the first farmer groups from
the Middle East crossed the area currently known as Turkey and
entered into Europe before branching out to follow two different
routes: one headed for Central Europe through the Danube, and
the other for the Iberian Peninsula, following the path marked
by the Mediterranean Sea. Some human groups in Europe
implemented a new and revolutionary way of life, characteristic
of the Neolithic period.
The Neolithic was a time that agriculture spread with
unprecedented speed, causing fundamental changes in the lives of
human beings, from hunters and gatherers to farmers. This fact
in turn led to nomads becoming sedentary, settling in fixed
locations and the creating the first residential villages. These
settlements allowed the increase in population when there was a
surplus of some products; they also led to the emergence
rudimentary trade in the form of bartering.
The current study of the tooth found in the cave, Cova Bonica
Vallirana, in Catalonia, has revealed information on one of the
early European Neolithic farmers as well as showing us that the
Neolithic farmers of Central Europe and the Mediterranean may
have shared the same common origin.
...
A team of Spanish and Danish scientists have succeeded in
sequencing the genome of one of the first farmers who lived in
the Mediterranean area of ​​the Iberian Peninsula.
The study of DNA from the tooth revealed that this ancient
farmer was actually a woman; with light skin, dark hair, and
brown eyes that lived about 7,400 years ago in what is now
Catalonia.
This prehistoric woman, which we also know was lactose
intolerant, belonged to the group of farmers who settled in the
Mediterranean, developing their own culture, which has
characteristically been called Ceramica Cardial ( Cardial
pottery). This pottery is noted for the decorative incisions on
the handcrafted pieces with the edges of bivalve shells, such as
some pottery shards found in the same level as the tooth from
the farmer woman found at Cova Bonica.[/quote]
Lactose tolerance came later from Turanian diffusion.
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I may actually have way more Neolithic genes expressing
themselves than I originally gave myself credit for. Certainly
do still have some Paleolithic traits. Interestingly, I can
pin-point accurately which side of my family those came from. I
have small teeth, and dentists have always told me I have a lot
of free space in my mouth. I also have a gap in my upper front
teeth.
I just ate oatmeal again for the first time in a long time, and
remembered how much I absolutely fucken love oatmeal! I did
corrupt it though with a little piece of butter....
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"butter"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter#History
[quote]The ancient Greeks and Romans seemed to have considered
butter a food fit more for the northern barbarians. A play by
the Greek comic poet Anaxandrides refers to Thracians as
boutyrophagoi, "butter-eaters".[17] In his Natural History,
Pliny the Elder calls butter "the most delicate of food among
barbarous nations"[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians
[quote]In Greek mythology, Thrax (by his name simply the
quintessential Thracian) was regarded as one of the reputed sons
of the god Ares.[5]
...
The origins of the Thracians remain obscure, in the absence of
written historical records. Evidence of proto-Thracians in the
prehistoric period depends on artifacts of material culture. Leo
Klejn identifies proto-Thracians with the multi-cordoned ware
culture that was pushed away from Ukraine by the advancing
timber grave culture or Srubnaya.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-cordoned_ware_culture
[quote]KMK tribes practiced herding and made widespread use of
chariots.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares
[quote]"Ares, exceeding in strength, chariot-rider[/quote]
We knew all this already, of course.
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More correlations with Aryan teeth:
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4456088/Slender-faced-pe
ople-25-cent-likely-lefties.html
[quote]The unexpected finding showed slender faces correlated
with a 25 per cent increase in the likeliness of a person
favouring their left hand.
...
They also discovered that slender faces and jaws were associated
with an overbite.
...
The researchers believe that the finding suggests that the
genetics that shape facial features and tuberculosis
susceptibility also linked to the increased the likelihood of
being a leftie.
...
'The low body weight of this slender physique is still today
recognised by the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention as
a marker for TB susceptibility.'
In the early 20th century, slender individuals were described as
'ectomorphs', a term that persists in popular culture a
reference to dieting and bodybuilding.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis_in_human_culture
[quote]The disease was for centuries associated with poetic and
artistic qualities in its sufferers, and was known as "the
romantic disease".[2]
...
A widespread belief was that tuberculosis assisted artistic
talent, as witness the number of great artists who were
affected. Physical mechanisms proposed for this effect included
the slight fever and the toxaemia caused by the disease, which
allegedly helped them to see life more clearly and to act
decisively.[/quote]
Without discounting the effects of tuberculosis itself on the
mind, perhaps the ectomorphic physiology contributes both to
susceptibility to tuberculosis and to artistic sense?
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 17, 2020, 4:10 am
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I told you so:
HTML https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200814123209.htm
[quote]"A more recent emergence of the tuberculosis pathogen
complex is now supported by genetic evidence from multiple
geographic regions and time periods," comments Sabin, first
author of the study. "It's the strongest evidence available to
date for this emergence having been a Neolithic
phenomenon."[/quote]
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: The Tower Crow Date: September 7, 2024, 8:28 pm
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According to this information, the teeth crowding/jaw-size
reduction that followed the Neolithic is more likely a lifestyle
effect than a genetic one at this stage. So, it'd probably be a
much more reliable indicator of one's genetic adaptation to an
agrarian lifestyle if they have a smaller jaw without teeth
crowding.
That being said, modern meat-eaters can't be expected to have
wider jaws than vegans/vegetarians except possibly as an
indication of being more caveman-like, but in the long-run,
unless vegans for some reason become the most avid
processed-food eaters, jaw width should increase for them (due
to the inclusion of more fibrous, lower calorie foods) and
decrease for those following a Standard Western Diet and perhaps
even carnivore diet.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_jaw_shrinkage
[quote]This short length of time, relative to evolutionary
timescale, means human genetics are still essentially the same
as before these modern changes in lifestyle practices.[/quote]
[quote]The main contributing factor to the recent increase in
malocclusion is widely considered to be due to a sharp reduction
in chewing stress, especially during critical periods of
craniofacial growth. Experiments done on non-human subjects have
shown that induced nasal blockages and/or dietary changes
earlier in life lead to maladaptive morphological change in
their jaws, intended to simulate what we are observing globally
in human children. Significant craniofacial changes due to diet
have even been experimentally shown in pigs during development;
researchers fed groups either a hard-consistency diet or a
soft-consistency diet, for eight months in total. Drastic
differences in jaw and facial musculature, facial structure, and
tooth-crowding were observed; researchers directly related the
findings to what we are observing more in human
populations.[/quote]
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 7, 2024, 9:48 pm
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"it'd probably be a much more reliable indicator of one's
genetic adaptation to an agrarian lifestyle if they have a
smaller jaw without teeth crowding."
But you are ignoring sexual selection. Given, as per the first
link in this topic, that during the Neolithic era jaws shrank
before teeth shrank:
[quote]human teeth did not reduce proportionately to the jaw and
crowding resulted[/quote]
(which the quotes you have posted do not refute), then those who
found teeth crowding (a new look at that time) visually
attractive would have enthusiastically selected for the
teeth-crowded. And if being attracted to teeth crowding is
heritable, then it would have been passed down to subsequent
generations. Whereupon even after enough generations had passed
for teeth to also shrink (as per your conjecture), it would be
those whose teeth hadn't shrunk who continued to be selected by
those who are heritably attracted to teeth crowding.
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 6, 2024, 3:26 am
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Gentilist take:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dDhWr32ekAU
Accurate enemy comment:
[quote]The pelvic areas pre- and post- agricultural revolution
were also very different with the
hunter-gatherers having larger/wider pelvis that made childbirth
easier.[/quote]
Aryans are physiologically antinatalist. 8)
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: christianbethel Date: April 19, 2025, 7:07 pm
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Any opinions on buck teeth?
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Re: Aryan teeth
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 19, 2025, 11:21 pm
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"Buck teeth" is an overly wide categorical term from Western
medicine referring both to (heritable) Aryan teeth and to
non-heritable dental phenomena caused by various habits:
HTML https://www.healthline.com/health/buck-teeth
[quote]Buck teeth from thumb-sucking
...
Buck teeth from pacifier
...
Tongue-thrusting[/quote]
Therefore we try not to use this term (and we put it in "" if we
must use it).
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