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Re: Aryan bones
By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 8:29 am
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HTML https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1464990083598090242?s=20
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Aryāṃśa
@arya_amsha
This is a cross-section of metacarpal and femoral heads of
primates. Look at the progressive decrease in trabecular bone
density as we go from Chimpanzees to modern H. Sapiens.
Predictably, our Hunter-Gatherer (early H. Sapiens) ancestors
had bones nearly twice as dense as ours.
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Re: Aryan bones
By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 26, 2023, 4:35 pm
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The second picture is a repost of:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/msg656/#msg656
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Re: Aryan bones
By: rp Date: February 26, 2023, 4:40 pm
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ok. I will remove it then since it seems redundant to repost it.
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Re: Facial Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 6, 2023, 7:04 pm
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@90sRetroFan What’s your opinion on height? I think I remember
you saying that taller people are less likely to be neotenous,
so the taller someone with an Aryan phenotype is, the more
impressive it is to have their level of neoteny, and the
stronger those genes would hypothetically be. Do you consider
Aryans innately short or tall? And if you consider them innately
short, would we still select for height in our population, for
the above reason?
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: rp Date: August 6, 2023, 7:06 pm
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Height is a positive force multiplier for ectomorphs. For
non-ectomorphs it is irrelevant.
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 6, 2023, 7:14 pm
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@rp Can you elaborate more on this? I’m not sure I fully
understand what you mean
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: rp Date: August 6, 2023, 7:19 pm
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The Aryan ideal body type is ectomorphy. An ectomorphic person
who is tall is superior to a shorter ectomorphic person (this is
because ectomorphy results in longer limbs compared to the
torso), not accounting for other features. A non-ectomorphic
person who is tall would not be considered superior to a shorter
ectomorph.
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: SirGalahad Date: August 6, 2023, 7:32 pm
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That makes sense. But taller people consume more resources than
shorter people, and height is something that differentiates us
from our younger selves. So that would be a couple of points in
favor for not selecting for height, or even for selecting for
shortness. The reason why I asked 90sRetroFan, is that maybe
height in an ectomorph acts only as a more obvious signal for
Aryan genes, and isn’t necessarily something that we should
directly pursue. Maybe it’s not a hard and fast rule, and it’s
possible for a shorter Aryan to have genes as high quality as a
taller Aryan, but it’s just easier to discern the quality level
in a taller person
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: rp Date: August 6, 2023, 7:46 pm
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"height is something that differentiates us from our younger
selves"
Not necessarily. A person who was tall as a child and who is
also tall as an adult would not be much different if they did
not gain much of their height during puberty.
"isn’t necessarily something that we should directly pursue."
I don't know about this tbh. Although I certainly agree a tall
ectomorph is better looking (Vijay himself has a nice frame),
your comment about tall people consuming more resources does
make more sense. 90sRetroFan can perhaps help clarify this.
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Re: Re: Facial Aryanism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 6, 2023, 8:18 pm
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"Do you consider Aryans innately short or tall?"
I believe Aryans at the time of initial contact during the
Neolithic era were shorter than Giants (which is why we called
them Giants, duh!) but could have been taller than some other
Gentile populations, for example:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yayoi-earwax-trail/msg18125/#msg18125
so there is no general pattern. Zea_mays and I once theorized
that one possible reason why non-Giant Gentiles worship Giants
is because non-Giant Gentiles have blood memory of their
ancestral rulers (Aryans) being taller than they were, so when
they encountered "white" colonialists who were even taller than
that, they subconsciously thought: "These guys must be the
ultra-rulers before whom we must display even more deference!"
We even theorized that one reason why monarchism was weaker
among Giant-descended populations than among everyone else is
because it was Aryans who introduced monarchism everywhere:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-monarchism/
but the Giants found it hard to view Aryans shorter than
themselves as monarchs, whereas non-Giant Gentiles had an easier
time viewing Aryans taller than themselves as monarchs. This
also lines up with an observation that leading Hollywood actors
(who are facially more neotenous and politically more
left-leaning than the national average) tend to be shorter than
the national average whereas leading actors in non-Western
film/TV industries (who are facially more neotenous and
politically more left-leaning than the national average) tend to
be taller than the national average. And by no coincidence:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg21041/#msg21041
[quote]celebrity-worship in Western countries generally lacks
intensity[/quote]
So it does not seem a stretch to imagine that monarch-worship
among Giants similarly lacked intensity compared to
monarch-worship among non-Giant Gentiles.
I liked the second half of this theory more than the first. I
prefer the simpler blood memory theory that accounts for
non-Giant Gentile worship of Giants directly by recognizing that
Giants are likely to be able to hunt better (draw a heavier bow)
than they themselves could.
On the other hand, Aryans have no reason to have a pro-tall
bias. I have yet to be able to imagine a single way in which
being taller leads to being better at farming.
"taller people consume more resources than shorter people"
Is this true if the two are the same weight?
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