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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 16, 2023, 6:18 pm
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True Leftist mainstream journalism:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-people-stole-affirmative-action-083000077.html
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> elite colleges and universities — which I have criticized in
my book and elsewhere as drivers of social inequality — made a
conscious, self-serving choice to maintain an absolute focus on
diversity and inclusion rather than the more difficult topics of
race and exclusion.
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As I have always said, diversity is a False Left value. Finally
mainstream journalism is catching up.
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> The bottom line is that elite institutions’ collective refusal
to reckon with their racist conduct has left affirmative action
on a rickety constitutional foundation that will ensure its
doom.
>
> It didn’t have to be this way.
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Indeed it did not. It is solely because False Leftists were too
cowardly to defend justly taking back what "whites" stole that
they felt the need to campaign under the banner of diversity
instead. Diversity is an attempt to sell to "whites" the notion
that "whites" possessing less space is good for "whites", when
what we should have been doing all along is explaining that
"whites" having the space they stole returned to their actual
owners is good for justice.
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> The Diversity Compromise
>
> The term “affirmative action” first appeared in a 1963
executive order, signed by President John F. Kennedy,
establishing the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunities to
be chaired by Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson. Conceived by the
committee’s special counsel, Hobart Taylor, Jr., the phrase
originally connoted aggressive, forward-looking efforts to
combat racism, as in “by affirmative action the elimination of
discrimination.”
>
> After becoming president, Johnson transformed its meaning to
compensation for past injustices during a 1965 commencement
speech at Howard University. “You do not take a person who, for
years, has been hobbled by chains,” Johnson said, “and liberate
him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say,
‘You are free to compete with all the others,’ and still justly
believe that you have been completely fair.”
>
> Martin Luther King Jr. sounded a similar note during a now
infamous Playboy interview, in which he promoted massive
government spending to create jobs and educational opportunities
for Black youth. Asked by Alex Haley about the fairness of
preferential programs, King replied, “All of America’s wealth
today could not adequately compensate its Negroes for his
centuries of exploitation and humiliation.”
>
> During the late 1960s, many colleges and professional schools
began giving Black students special consideration in admissions.
Arguably, this was little more than a curtailment of the
colleges’ discrimination against applicants of color, but many
schools conceptualized it as partial reparations for America’s
legacy of racism.
>
> The first affirmative action case reached the Supreme Court in
1974 in a challenge from Marco DeFunis, a white applicant denied
admission to University of Washington Law School. In a
friend-of-the-court brief filed on Harvard’s behalf, former
Watergate special prosecutor and Harvard professor Archibald Cox
argued that affirmative action was justified by “the direct or
indirect consequences of slavery, ‘white supremacy’ and other
historic prejudices leading to the poverty and isolation of
disadvantaged groups.”
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So far so good. But then this happened:
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> But the court was experiencing a backlash to many of its civil
rights decisions, particularly in the area of busing, and Cox
questioned whether a majority of the justices would support the
proposition that Black people deserved preferential treatment or
reparations for America’s centuries of slavery and
discrimination.
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And thus Cox became a False Leftist:
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> So Cox articulated an alternative justification for
affirmative action: diversity. It was “a stimulus to the
development of every student’s personality and understanding, as
well as a preparation for the society in which he will live,” he
wrote in the DeFunis brief. “A farm boy from Idaho can bring
something to Harvard College that a Bostonian cannot offer.
Similarly, a Black student can usually bring something that a
white person cannot offer.”
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This is how False Leftists sabotage leftism.
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> The Supreme Court found DeFunis’ challenge moot but returned
to the issue in 1977. Cox, now representing the University of
California system against Allan Bakke’s challenge to quotas at
UC Davis Medical School, chose to emphasize the diversity
argument above all else. (That was despite the school’s meager
record in that regard; its inaugural 1968 class had included no
Black, Latino or Native American students.)
>
> Cox was making a deliberate calculation that the diversity
argument was most likely to win a majority of the right-leaning
court. He particularly had in mind the swing justice, Lewis
Powell, who’d presided over Richmond’s school board during an
era of near segregation and, in a 1970 speech, inveighed against
“the guilt-ridden views of those who talk about reparations for
past injustice.”
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The moment you start worrying about being disliked by the
oppressors, you begin corrupting everything you touch.
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> The Problems with Diversity
>
> Following Bakke, colleges proceeded as if diversity was the
sole permissible justification for affirmative action. In 2017,
only 352 of America’s approximately 6,000 colleges and
universities said they considered race as a factor in
admissions. All of their affirmative action programs are
premised on the supposed benefits of diversity. Colleges may
have perceived this approach as politically expedient in a
country that still struggles with race, but as an intellectual
foundation it could hardly have been shakier.
> ...
> “Deep down,” John McWhorter wrote in the New York Times, “I
suspect we all know that it would be quite possible for students
to get a sterling education at a university where every student
was a white person from Colorado.”
>
> Given the historical context, if “educational” benefits of
diversity exist, they must principally have been for white
people. In 1972, after DeFunis initiated his lawsuit, just 4
percent of Harvard students identified as Black. (When Bakke
reached the court, the number had increased to 8 percent.) If
students indeed learned math better in racially diverse
environments, those benefits could not have been about helping
Black students since they were largely absent from the
classroom.
>
> Herein lies the essence of the problem with the diversity
rationale: It justifies affirmative action in terms of its
benefits for white people.
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Thus, once enough time has passed for it to become obvious that
such benefits are not forthcoming, the False Left narrative
collapses, and rightism appears vindicated. The strength of the
True Left narrative, in contrast, is that it agrees with
rightists that taking space from "whites" is indeed bad for
"whites", but merely argues that it is the just course of
action.
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> At a rally outside the Supreme Court, while the justices heard
arguments on SFFA’s appeals, one of the signs said, “Diversity
is good for white people.”
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No, it is not. That is why we should support it. Holding Trump
accountable is not good for Trump. That is why we should support
it. Destroying Israel is not good for Israel. That is why we
should support it. And so on. See how True Leftism works?
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> Boston University School of Law professor Jonathan Feingold,
who has written extensively about affirmative action, wasn’t
surprised, telling me the remedial justification has “a stronger
constitutional mooring” than the diversity rationale.
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Duh!
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> Moreover, the remedial justification would have done important
work in the court of public opinion, particularly as the country
goes through a racial reckoning.
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Exactly. Supporters of diversity would logically be opposed to
"white" genocide since "white" genocide would clearly reduce
diversity. This elementary logic is why we have never had any
respect for diversity as a value in itself. A world in which
evil exists alongside good is more diverse than a world of good
only. Is the former a better world than the latter?
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> Feingold offers the simplest possible explanation for why
colleges have focused exclusively on diversity. “Institutions,”
he says, “don’t want to have to do the potentially embarrassing,
shameful uplifting of history that would actually be necessary
for a remedial defense.” Harvard, which benefited extensively
from the labor of enslaved peoples, recently committed $100
million to support historical research by scholars and students,
but notably excluded reparations or any change to admissions
policies. UNC didn’t desegregate until 1955, following a federal
court order, and resisted integration during the 1960s through a
strategy of so-called moderation.
>
> “UNC’s history,” Feingold says, “is another reason why it
feels — and this is maybe slight hyperbole — like legal
malpractice to leave that argument on the table when for most of
your history you were either formally excluding Black students
or you were formally resisting federal mandates that you let
them in.”
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Yep.
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> Justice Amy Coney Barrett asked SFFA’s lawyer to consider an
applicant who came from “an underprivileged school, who maybe
didn’t have the best teaching, best opportunities to score well
on the SAT.”
> ...
> Anyone can find disadvantage if they look hard enough — in the
stresses of their high school experiences or the suffering of
their ancestors. Denying one’s advantages is far more difficult.
For most white applicants, any such list would begin with what
the college admissions process defines as meritorious.
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Which brings us back to the need for:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/academic-decolonization/
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 22, 2023, 5:30 pm
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/msg20587/#msg20587
False Left article:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/gma/time-running-missing-titanic-tour-035237163.html
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> Nonetheless, as one sane commentator posted on Twitter, it is
possible to hold space for both the drowned migrants and the
missing billionaires. In fact, to maintain a shred of our human
decency, it's necessary to honor all levels of human suffering
and death.
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If so, I am proud to have no human decency.
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> Imagine for a moment that there was a camera inside of the
Titan and we could watch the mounting desperation in its hull.
If we had to actually look at the pain in the dying men’s eyes,
would we still joke about it?
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I would.
False (ie. unwoke) Left comments:
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> Any loss of life is tragic......No matter how crazy someone's
ideas are.........
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> Failing to resurface in that craft is the most terrifying
thing I can imagine and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, no matter
who they might be.
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True (ie. woke) Left comments:
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> We should feel sympathy for rich people who are always
searching for the next thrill?
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> Who cares about 5 rich jerks wasting $ on their own thrills.
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> Suffering involves being forced to endure loss or pain. They
chose their loss and pain. That's not suffering. Where's the
outpouring of grief for the immigrants who lose their lives
fleeing here to escape suffering? Where's that concern?
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> Yep, migrants drown, and no one cares. Rich people die, they
are in the media 24 hours a day!
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> I have no sympathy for self inflicted wounds. The passengers
knew the dangers involved, and chose to take the risk.
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> In my humble opinion had those idle rich donated all that
money to feed the hungry it would have been more rewarding
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> it can be hard to develop "sympathy, empathy" for folks
willing to forgo the world's poor and blast $250k on a thinly
veiled death wish
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> When evil rich people do something dumb and suffer
consequences, we laugh.
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> They got what they deserved.
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> My new company is bringing paying customers down to view the
wreckage of this poor submersible
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: July 11, 2023, 8:46 am
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Indian auntie tells girl she is fat, girl rants about it online:
HTML https://incels.is/threads/my-auntie-just-walked-up-to-me-and-said-you-have-gotten-fatter.497843/
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 11, 2023, 6:26 pm
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Let's see:
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/14gmd8w/my_auntie_just_walked_up_to_me_and_said_you_have/
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> "you have gotten fatter, get on a diet"
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Unlike the auntie, I am totally fine with fat people not putting
in effort to lose weight. I am only against trying to lower
standards.
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> im 5`4 145 pounds, i know im NOT FAT
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Hopeless.
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: July 12, 2023, 1:39 am
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I am the same approximately the same height as her but weigh
more than 40 pounds less!
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: July 23, 2023, 11:30 am
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Rude or not?
[img width=591
height=1280]
HTML https://i.imgur.io/f8OsMGy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium[/img]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 13, 2023, 6:14 pm
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False Left TYT criticizes not only Trump's hypocrisy in
fat-shaming Christie (which is a valid criticism) but also
fat-shaming itself:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t20PqBrF7z0
Woke commenters are not buying it, and are instead mocking both
Trump and Christie simultaneously:
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> Christie is a threat to every Cheeto in this universe. No
wonder the cheat-o is terrified of Christie's corpulence.
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and generally mocking rightists for their physical appearance
(ie. what TYT told them to not do):
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> we should have exceptions for anyone who's face stopped
growing when they were three but their head continued to grow
(naming no Charlie Kirks)
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I suggest woke commenters start mocking the TYT hosts for their
physical appearance also.
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 19, 2023, 9:16 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H9b0vCJmkPo?feature=share
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 23, 2023, 8:38 pm
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Just watched the debate, and I saw that fatass Christie
thin-shaming one of the candidates, Vivek Ramaswamy (an
ectomorph of Indian (i.e. tropical climate)) origin. Don't agree
with Ramaswamy's views but it illustrates the racial
undercurrent.
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-relativism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 24, 2023, 10:50 pm
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