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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: guest5
Date: May 30, 2021, 11:53 pm
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Radar confirms UFO swarm around Navy warship
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrYVmYkL5w
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> BIG STERMS
> 11 hours ago
> Usually when the government is showing us one thing their
other hand is doing something we can't see. Can't wait to find
out what that is lol
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> antiklaus
> 4 hours ago
> The country is in such dire straits that the government can
admit UFOs exist, and people are like meh.
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> Steven Douglas
> 5 hours ago
> Oh oh. Aliens, US military, it’s almost July. Sounds like
Independence Day to me. Better call Will Smith.
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> Alco Power
> 15 hours ago
> I’m still convinced that the government will disclose
information ONLY if it benefits them. Otherwise they wouldn’t do
it. So the big question is......what are they up to?
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;D
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: guest5
Date: June 4, 2021, 10:45 pm
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Well, that was pretty anticlimactic....
UFO Report: No Evidence Of Alien Spacecraft, But Can't Rule It
Out
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> The truth is out there — somewhere. NBC's Courtney Kube
reports on the national security implications of the
government's UFO report, where they said there was no evidence
of extraterrestrial activity, but did not rule it out.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-ssaJglFo
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: guest78
Date: June 14, 2022, 2:07 pm
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IN THE MIDDLE OF THE UKRANIAN INVASION, RUSSIAN SPACE CHIEF IS
TALKING ABOUT ALIENS? || 2022
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCzgmGt2pk
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: guest78
Date: January 14, 2023, 3:02 pm
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Hear the details of a new UFO report released by US government
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> The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a
new report about UFO sightings in the United States. The US
government has received over 350 UFO sighting reports since
March 2021, half of which remain unexplained. #CNN #news
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfBGjXU2Qls
Comments:
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> In all seriousness,
>
> If they're smart enough to fly here they're smart enough to
look at us and fly away.
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> Yeah, aliens take a look at us humans and are like Nope..
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> Those aliens have a lot of nerve littering our sky with their
plastic bags like that.
>
> It could seriously confuse someone.
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> Great…the moment she said “or are they aliens” Trump
supporters immediately screamed “secure the border.!”
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HTML https://www.defensenews.com/resizer/EPVbtgKNHPWUTD0nbQJ5sXsVxLM=/1024x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archetype/UC2CVRSUQ5DLHEXTTE4IJJKOMQ.jpg
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[img]
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;D
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: April 19, 2023, 11:08 am
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Roscommon astronomer's 30-year-old UFO theory echoed by Pentagon
publication
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBmd2TeUstw
Pentagon to testify at UFO hearing in Congress
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> UFOs are set to take over Washington, D.C, Wednesday as
Congress holds a hearing to seek clarity on mysterious objects
in the sky seen by members of the military. NBC’s Joe Fryer
reports for TODAY.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WftzQFKfydY
Comments:
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> On my (non-monetized) channel, I have a short 1 min. video of
literally a dozen UFOs over Las Vegas, filmed by resident and
friend, Steve Barone. It beats anything out there in terms of
seeing how organized and beyond our known physics these fleets
are. Hope we can soon have discussions as to what this means for
our human origin, rather than if they're imaginary, or flocks of
birds.
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> As usual the news reporters laugh it off.
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> not reporters, dem propagandists
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> Please stop lying to us and just tell everyone what’s going
on, people aren’t going to freak out like they would decades ago
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> Democrats have an important celebration this Thursday April
20th, it is Adolf Hitlers birthday.
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: June 5, 2023, 8:00 pm
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It looks like we may be in for the worst news in human history.
If dealing with the (human-made) AI crisis wasn't bad enough, it
seems (what I assume are) sentient machines have already found
us:
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> But a new report from Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal — part
of the team that broke the Times story in 2017 — gives hope to
the alien optimists.
>
> On the science website the Debrief, the pair describe the
story of a Defense intelligence whistleblower who has alleged
that the Intelligence Community is hiding classified evidence of
“intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.”
>
> The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, claims in a complaint
that the Pentagon, other nations, and defense contractors have
recovered fragments “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence,
whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle
morphologies and material science testing and the possession of
unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures.” Grusch
goes on to state that the “material includes intact and
partially intact vehicles.”
>
> While a previous UFO expert in the government might have been
discredited, Grusch has bona fides that are worth taking
seriously. Grusch is a 36-year-old combat veteran of Afghanistan
who was a member of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task
Force, the program run by the Office of Naval Intelligence to
investigate UFO sightings. From 2019 to 2021, he served on the
task force as the representative of the National Reconnaissance
Office, considered one of the big five of the U.S. intelligence
agencies. His colleagues think highly of him, too. Karl Nell, a
retired Army colonel who was also on the UFO task force, told
the Debrief that Grusch was “beyond reproach.” Nell even backed
up one of Grusch’s claims in the complaint: that there is an
ongoing competition with other countries to “identify [UFO]
crashes/landings and retrieve the material for
exploitation/reverse engineering.”
>
> “His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms
race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on
reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is
fundamentally correct,” Nell told the Debrief. “As is the
indisputable realization that at least some of these
technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human
intelligence.” Another intelligence official investigating UFOs,
Jonathan Grey, concurred. “The non-human intelligence phenomenon
is real. We are not alone,” he said. “This is a global
phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
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HTML https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/ex-intel-official-government-hiding-alien-tech.html
Original article:
HTML https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
HTML https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/
Discussion:
HTML https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/141ch26/intelligence_officials_say_us_has_retrieved_craft/
I suppose this could also mean that governments have now
developed unfathomably advanced (likely sentient) drone
technology, and the alien hub-bub is a psyops/cover to distract
from the psychological terror of what humans have created. If
private corporations have been able to create advanced computing
programs that even some of their employees are convinced are
sentient, then the US government certainly has had the
capability to create something even more advanced.
May god have mercy on us.
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: June 5, 2023, 9:04 pm
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You just reminded me of this story that has been popping-up alot
recently as well:
Galaxies that shouldn’t exist? JWST confounds scientists yet
again
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> New information provided by the James Webb Space Telescope
indicates six galaxies that shouldn’t exist – revealing these
earliest and largest galaxies on NASA’s radar might be even
bigger and more mature
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> The JWST continues to confound scientists by revealing space
phenomena in new detail and never before seen images of our
galaxy. This week the telescope has released new information
that casts doubt on previous scientific discussions surrounding
the origin of our galaxy and others nearby.
>
> Following this new release from the JWST, researchers are
claiming this new group of galaxies should not exist at all in
their current state, implying that the earliest and most massive
galaxies ever found by NASA’s telescope appear to be much bigger
than could have been expected.
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> Are scientists missing crucial information about our universe?
>
> According to researchers, these new findings build on previous
scientific research that reported despite coming from the very
beginnings of the universe, these galaxies were as mature as our
own Milky Way.
>
> Here is where NASA researchers have found themselves in an
interesting yet also frightening position. The new information
provided by the JWST does not prove that their previous research
is wrong – the opposite. The telescope’s discovery cements their
previous calculations whilst also showing that these galaxies
are far bigger than scientists ever thought possible. So if
their calculations are correct, but the galaxy size is bigger
than ever, scientists may be missing fundamental information
about the universe.
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> “If the masses are right, then we are in uncharted territory,”
said Mike Boylan-Kolchin, from the University.of Texas at
Austin, and the author of a new paper examining the unsual
galaxies. “We’ll require something very new about galaxy
formation or a modification to cosmology. One of the most
extreme possibilities is that the universe was expanding faster
shortly after the Big Bang than we predict, which might require
new forces and particles.”...
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Entire article:
HTML https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/galaxies-shouldnt-exist-jwst-confounds-scientists/157923/
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: 2ThaSun
Date: June 9, 2023, 4:05 pm
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'This is a Hollywood script': Michio Kaku on reports of UFOs,
aliens | Banfield
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> Air Force veteran David Grusch claims the government is
covering up evidence that UFOs really are extraterrestrial and
that he has seen evidence of a secret crash retrieval program.
He alleges the U.S. has even retrieved bodies from other
species. Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku tells "Banfield" to
"follow the evidence."
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSAdNAWByk
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: June 10, 2023, 11:58 am
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There does not yet appear to be any solid evidence to believe
the story is true just yet.
And here is a discussion expressing some possible reasons for
skepticism:
HTML https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143k3oz/some_reasons_for_skepticism_regarding_recent/
However, the existence of life outside of Earth has significant
implications for our ultimate end-game and anti-technologist and
anti-Yahwehist principles. This deeply concerns me.
There are estimated to be 200 billion galaxies in the universe,
and an estimated one septillion
(1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) stars. In the interview with
Kaku in the previous post, he says in the Milky Way alone there
are at minimum 100,000,000,000 planets, each one of which is
orbiting a different star.
Life exists on Earth. Intelligent life exists on Earth.
Intelligent life on the cusp of creating sentient machines
exists on Earth. Therefore, the probability of such things is
non-zero, and, on a large enough scale, _will_ occur again
somewhere else in the universe.
In the past, it seems the movement's general attitude has been
that searching for life outside of Earth and helping it
transcend would be a never-ending goose chase involving the
necessity to create increasingly advanced technology and
reproduce for a near-infinite amount of generations, and we will
simply have to have faith that noble forces outside of Earth
will similarly transcend the material realm.
It may be time to reopen our thoughts on what the ultimate
long-term end-game will have to be if non-Earth life has truly
found us.
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If this is real, the assumptions I think we can make are:
-The non-Earth "craft" are sentient machines and do not involve
"biological" organisms directly piloting them. Based on
lifeforms on Earth, travelling vast distances across the galaxy
or between galaxies will be excessively difficult due to our
lifespans and food/environmental requirements. Machines would
also be able to enter more extreme environments with a greater
level of pressure, toxins, etc. than a biological organism, as
well as fit inside a smaller craft and be able to tolerate
higher amounts of acceleration/g-forces.
-It also seems unlikely that they are piloted remotely by
biological organisms (for example, like a human Mars rover).
There is significant lag time in commutations (governed by the
speed of light) that is evident even in Moon missions, so the
base for a remotely piloted craft would have to be somewhere in
our solar system, which does not seem likely.
-The sentient machines and their creators probably originate
from somewhere close to us, most probably within our own galaxy
or Local Group of galaxies (5 million light year radius):
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_habitable_zone
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_galaxies
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Group
-They could not have originated more than a 16 billion light
year radius away from us. This is the current cosmic event
horizon (read below.)
-If a giant mothership, on its way to enslave all of us, was
going to reach Earth within our lifetimes, astronomers would
probably have noticed something unusual by now. But future
generations may not be as lucky as us. We have a duty to them to
take this seriously before it becomes an unsolvable crisis.
-If the claims are credible, Grusch (the whistleblower) and
others associated with him are claiming the earliest evidence of
humans capturing UFOs dates back to 1933. I.e. whatever is
happening has been ongoing for at least 90 years.
HTML https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143ivlu/sunday_newsnation_report_is_possibly_going_to/
-Trying to deal with this issue in a society which operates
using democracy and private, uncontrolled, economic enterprise
will be an unfathomable risk and disaster. In other words,
besides the (human-made) AI crisis and the climate crisis, the
we-are-not-alone/ultra-high-tech-recovered-from-aliens crisis
represents another angle that pressure can be applied in order
to return to a functional form of government.
----
In terms of physics and astronomy, what do we have to work with
to understand the ultimate fate of the universe?
Our understanding of physics is that light speed is the fastest
speed possible for a particle to travel.
Our understanding of the observable universe is that it is
expanding, and at an accelerating rate.
The speed of light is ~299,792 km/s, which means that if space
between two points in the universe is expanding faster than
that, it can never be reached with our current understanding of
physics. (Something like "wormholes", multi-dimensionality of
the universe, or studies of quantum mechanics invalidating our
current knowledge could change this assumption). This threshold
is called the cosmic event horizon:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizon
Our understanding of physics is that an object with mass cannot
actually reach the speed of light. Therefore, the time to reach
the cosmic event horizon for spacecraft is smaller than the time
to reach the horizon for light. I am not familiar enough with
the topic to make any estimates of how much less time.
Here is a further explanation of the cosmic event horizon.
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> because the expansion of the universe is accelerating, it is
projected that most galaxies will eventually cross a type of
cosmological event horizon where any light they emit past that
point will never be able to reach us at any time in the infinite
future,[30] because the light never reaches a point where its
"peculiar velocity" towards us exceeds the expansion velocity
away from us (these two notions of velocity are also discussed
in Comoving and proper distances#Uses of the proper distance).
The current distance to this cosmological event horizon is about
16 billion light-years, meaning that a signal from an event
happening at present would eventually be able to reach us in the
future if the event was less than 16 billion light-years away,
but the signal would never reach us if the event was more than
16 billion light-years away.[28]
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Universal_expansion
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> How can the universe expand faster than light travels?
> [...]
> A key feature of this expansion is how uniform it is.
> [...]
> It means that if you look at a galaxy 1 megaparsec away, it
will appear to be receding away from us at 68 km/s. If you look
at a galaxy 2 megaparsec away, it recedes at 136 km/s. Three
megaparsec away? You got it! 204 km/s. And on and on: for every
megaparsec, you can add 68 km/s to the velocity of the far-away
galaxy.
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HTML https://www.space.com/33306-how-does-the-universe-expand-faster-than-light.html
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law
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> Using a relatively new and potentially more precise technique
for measuring cosmic distances, which employs the average
stellar brightness within giant elliptical galaxies as a rung on
the distance ladder, astronomers calculate a rate — 73.3
kilometers per second per megaparsec, give or take 2.5
km/sec/Mpc — that lies in the middle of three other good
estimates, including the gold standard estimate from Type Ia
supernovae. This means that for every megaparsec — 3.3 million
light years, or 3 billion trillion kilometers — from Earth, the
universe is expanding an extra 73.3 ±2.5 kilometers per second.
The average from the three other techniques is 73.5 ±1.4
km/sec/Mpc.
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HTML https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/03/08/how-fast-is-the-universe-expanding-galaxies-provide-one-answer/
The universe is estimated to have a radius of 45.7 billion light
years, so we are at least safe from ~96% of the universe.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe
The real question is, when will we reach the point where
cosmological horizon is so small that space colonization is no
longer possible? If random Wikipedia quotations can be trusted,
it could take between 100 billion to 1 trillion (100,000,000,000
- 1,000,000,000,000) years from now for the Local Group of
galaxies to be inescapable. The Local Group is comprised of the
Milk Way, Andromeda Galaxy, and their smaller satellite
galaxies. It has a radius of 5 million light years. (Remember,
currently space colonists can travel a maximum of 16 _billion_
light years).
...For perspective, Earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years
old, life formed by at least 3.7 billion years ago, ancestors of
mammals have existed for ~250-200 million years, and primates
around 85-55 million. "Modern humans" have been around for only
~160,000 years. There were 156 years between the theory of
evolution being introduced and the first gene-edited human
(2015). There were 66 years between the first flight and first
humans on the Moon. It's taken 76 years from the invention of
the transistor to arrive at the cusp of sentient machines. What
will happen in the next 100 billion years?
...The universe itself is estimated to only be ~13.8 billion
years old.
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> Coalescence of Local Group and galaxies outside the Local
Supercluster are no longer accessible
>
> The galaxies in the Local Group, the cluster of galaxies which
includes the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy, are
gravitationally bound to each other. It is expected that between
10^11 (100 billion) and 10^12 (1 trillion) years from now, their
orbits will decay and the entire Local Group will merge into one
large galaxy.[5]
>
> Assuming that dark energy continues to make the universe
expand at an accelerating rate, in about 150 billion years all
galaxies outside the Local Supercluster will pass behind the
cosmological horizon. It will then be impossible for events in
the Local Supercluster to affect other galaxies. Similarly, it
will be impossible for events after 150 billion years, as seen
by observers in distant galaxies, to affect events in the Local
Supercluster.[4]
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Coalescence_of_Local_Group_and_galaxies_outside_the_Local_Supercluster_are_no_longer_accessible
The Sun will turn into a red giant star approximately 5 billion
years from now, engulfing Earth or at least rendering it
uninhabitable.
However, we may have to battle Earth-originating-space-colonists
and non-Earth-originating Yahwehists for 95 billion more years
after that occurs.
To make things more depressing, that is only the amount of time
before inter-galactic colonization originating from our region
of the universe becomes impossible. Intra-galactic colonization
within the merged Local Group, within solar systems, and within
individual planets will still be able to occur.
The physical/chemical reactions needed to support life will only
completely cease with the heat death of the universe.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
It seems estimates of when the heat death will occur are around
~10^100 years from now.
That is
10,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000,​000
years from now.
More realistically, however, the chemical energy needed to
sustain life will likely be unachievable within half or a
quarter of this time:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Possible_ionization_of_matter
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Future_with_proton_decay
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Future_without_proton_decay
Even more realistically, I think a reasonable assumption is that
the conditions to support complex life will be unlikely to exist
within 1/7th of the time, i.e. 10^15 (1 quadrillion) years from
now. However, who knows what kind of technology could be
invented by then to permanently prolong living conditions of
engineered machines/lifeforms.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Planets_fall_or_are_flung_from_orbits_by_a_close_encounter_with_another_star
Small matters seem so trivial with all this at stake.
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Re: Ex-defense official on new details of UFO encounters soon to
public
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: June 10, 2023, 12:01 pm
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If this is just a psyops to distract us from something, what are
the possibilities that may have happened?
-The US government is preparing us for the psychological horror
of some kind of advanced drone warfare (presumably carried out
by human-made sentient machines) that will soon be practical.
-The US or Chinese governments have invented sentient drone
machines, but have lost control of them already, and blaming
"aliens" for their creation is less likely to threaten existing
power structures than being forced to admit the evil humans have
created. I'm not sure if Israel, Russia, or other nations
currently have the computing power to develop sentient AI.
Government research into technology seems to be more advanced
than private sector research, so I think it is less probable
that a private company has developed a sentient AI more advanced
than anything companies have released publicly thus far.
-An excuse to raise the military budget and generate funding for
programs to develop (currently non-existent) sentient machines
to "respond" to the non-existent alien threat? With private
companies on the brink of developing such AI, surely the US
government/military wants to dedicate resources in order to be
the first organization to create this AI. No doubt Putin isn't
the only one to share the following attitude:
HTML https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/4/16251226/russia-ai-putin-rule-the-world
-Whether aliens are here are not, as this topic becomes more
widely discussed, Yahwehists will take the opportunity to push
the importance of space colonization by humans and the continued
advancement of technology. Maybe this will be the pretense to
"build a global consensus" that pursuing advanced space
colonization and propagation of organisms throughout the galaxy
must be the primary focus of humanity. The need for some type of
global coordination in response to these supposed aliens is
something that Grusch has stressed. Even if aliens haven't found
us, anti-Yahweists/anti-space-colonizationists will have to be
prepared to come out on top whenever the time comes to build a
"global consensus" on the matter.
-???
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