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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: Colin Walker
       Date: December 20, 2017, 9:36 am
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       We have found that so many of our customers are now not coming
       into our Hogh Street shop as they prefer to buy online, so this
       will only add to the problem. So do we join this venture to try
       and counter our loss
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: trophyman
       Date: December 20, 2017, 9:39 am
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       personally we stopped using glenway a few years ago, we could
       see the way they were going then, band together as one and use
       the other wholesalers more for this season and show the power of
       the retailer.
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: Steve
       Date: December 20, 2017, 9:42 am
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       I have been so busy with end of year awards, I had not really
       looked into what Glenway are going to do with their website,
       surely they cannot be going direct?
       HBS tried this a few years ago and all the trade turned their
       backs on HBS and they never recovered and eventually went out of
       business. That was of course before the days of the internet and
       things as we all know are very different now and probably
       Glenway could survive with just a retail site but they cannot
       supply the trade as well. I'm sure Tim at Glenway will have a
       good explanation, they are doing very well just the way they
       have been operating, why change....I'm sure the Glenway stand
       will be busy in January fending off questions.
       Steve at Robert Chapman Presentations
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: aghengraving
       Date: December 20, 2017, 9:42 am
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       It certainly raised an eyebrow, would have been nice of them to
       give some indication of what they were up to, I will be
       considering where to put my business, I can see an advantage
       possibly, as I near retirement age, I could keep some existing
       customers, and not get my hands dirty. But as someone has
       already said, You are either trade or retail. MIXED
       FEELINGS.....  :(
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: Thetrophyfactory
       Date: December 20, 2017, 9:57 am
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       Plenty of other so called wholesalers sell direct to any tom,
       dick, or person with the cash!!
       Simple solution, Don't buy anything from them at all!
       They will soon make a decision as to if they are ethical or not?
       How dare they dictate as to what to charge for engraving?
       Anyone who sticks with them must be either lazy or thinking of
       selling up.
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: DW Awards
       Date: December 20, 2017, 10:03 am
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       This has been happening here in Ireland for a few years so I
       moved my business away from these suppliers, as people have said
       your either one or the other.
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: Severn
       Date: December 20, 2017, 10:57 am
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       Glenway dont give a toss about there customers i had been using
       them for 20 years but when they first brought out the
       welovetrophies.com book we saw that they were dictating
       engraving prices  i spoke to Glenway about it but they were not
       bothered about it at all i was like "well thats loyalty for you"
       and have not used them since.
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: ironside028
       Date: December 20, 2017, 11:06 am
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       Totally agree - no customer loyalty whatsoever - we had to drop
       using the catalogue and only use them if we really have to,
       because of how they have been supplying non trophy retail
       companies, such as youth groups, who then sell to their smaller
       groups at a price way below rrp because they are supposed to be
       non profit making organisations.  It makes us look too dear
       then, and we can't compete with that.
       Also have a problem with them supplying 'start ups' who are
       literally on your doorstep and using trophy sales as a 'side
       line', when they have been your main business for 40 years!
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: Reddave999
       Date: December 20, 2017, 11:11 am
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       I agree with most of whats been said and to me its just a way to
       get a list of our customers  and then they could approach them
       directly. I have decided not to use them in the future
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       Re: Glenway's Direct to Customer Site
   DIR By: We Love Profit
       Date: December 20, 2017, 11:52 am
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       Future My Ass, Who's future is that then? Staggered by Glenways
       2018 approach. Nothing new there then. We all know who pulls the
       strings at Silvertrophy & Glenway have opperated a direct
       service to end user for retailers for ages. More fool those that
       use this. TBH though, they're probably all at it . I lost a 7K a
       year football league order to a wholesaler years ago so
       naturally boycotted them for over 6 years. That end user now
       uses a variety of wholesalers (because he has been given excess
       to the trophex show & formed a Ltd company for the cover) to
       supply his football league, charges retail to the league &
       pockets the difference without the overheads of a retail space.
       Truth is, I'm starting to do business again with the wholesaler
       that shafted me regardless. Nature all of commerce is, we all
       want to earn more & do less for it. I think Tim's plan is highly
       flawed though to reap any real extra significant business. They
       say to tell your customer to enter your retailers code, and the
       end user customer will get a 2% discount & they will charge for
       engraving & delivery. The retailer will supposedly receive 30%
       of nett profit. LOL, what customer spending good money is going
       to settle for a 2% discount & pay delivery & engraving on top.
       Customers are budget conscious and those spending the best
       money, demand the biggest discounts. This sounds like one of the
       biggest (if not the) wholesalers going blatently retail &
       supplying the bedroom / garage supplier who cannot do their own
       engraving. I cannot operate on those margins and this is taking
       the retailers customer away. Next time they order they will
       remember the website but forget the retailers code hence going
       direct to Glenway. If you can't fullfill a last minute order,
       apologies politly & send them to your local Timpsons, that will
       probobly ensure they come back to you next time (with more lead
       time) when they need trophies & engraving. We are living in a
       digital age and people are lazy, so we are all going to have to
       cope with this. I went to China direct as a a retailer (out of
       necisity for a few limited products) years ago and it's the best
       move I ever made. My business would be sunk without my Chinese
       suppliers & a fine bottle of vintage whisky is on the way to him
       right now. If you value your business MARCH WITH YOUR FEET,
       there are traditional wholesalers out there with ethics and it's
       there you should concentrate the bullk of your business. As the
       chinese man might say " Do not let Fox look after Chiken coop"
       ;D ( thats a purposefull typo BTW) OR we could all start up our
       own cooperative, we could call it We Love Profit.com or
       NOTGlensWay.com ;)
       I'm not giving out the welovetrophies catalogue this year, but I
       will still use them. I'm not cutting off my nose to spite my
       face again.
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