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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: ROBERT LAIRD Date: July 22, 2013, 4:31 pm
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I'm basing on what I've seen in Bischoff and Brisco comparing
them to other stars that are given a bigger push like Robbie E,
Daniel Bryan, Joey Ryan, Joseph Park or David Flair just a few
years ago. I agree they do need some work but I see a lot of
potential. I followed the early stages of watching Jerry
Lawler, Jeff Jarrett, and Tommy Rich. They all started out the
same caliber of Bischoff and Brisco and they ended up becoming
great stars over time. I see that kind of wrestler style in
Garrett and Wes. By the way, yes I did compare them to Jericho
and Benoit but only if TNA gives them the right kind of push not
like the push that WCW gave their wrestlers. Bischoff and Briso
have only one way to go and that is to keep improving.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: SheriffLonestar Date: July 22, 2013, 4:45 pm
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Okay I can see your point, and here is my but, Robbie E has not
really been given a push. He knows he is midcard cannon fodder
and is quite happy to jog along. Pretty much the same for Joey
Ryan, who really I don't know what he was doing in TNA, because
he is the perfect indie heel, and I think he realized that to.
Joseph Park is really an anathema. He is an alter ego and as far
as that is going its going well, you can't really judge him on
the same scale. Flair was on a loser from the start and got over
pushed because despite his lack of ability, his run as a psycho
was far more rewarding just because it hid so much of his
limitations.
Daniel Bryan on the other hand is in the Jericho/Benoit league
and has been compared to Benoit throughout his career. He has
always been that good, you don't get WWE contracts at 18 if you
are not. You don't get to wrestle KENTA in the main event of
NOAH shows if your not that good, you don't get to be ROH World
Champion if you're not that good and you don't get called "Best
in the World" if you are not that good and all of those things
Bryan has done. You could say Vince is pushing him to the moon,
but really he has willed himself to the main event because he
has had about 20 false starts in WWE. He has got their in-spite
of the WWE, who are now giving him the push he warrants because
he is so ridiculously over it would be the height of stupidity
not to and Vince is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: SheriffLonestar Date: July 22, 2013, 4:49 pm
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I would also say that Jarret wasn't that big a draw, he willed
himself there to, and you have to say he had a lot of help from
his Dad.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: kentjones Date: July 22, 2013, 4:57 pm
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I actually like to watch Garrett too.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: ROBERT LAIRD Date: July 22, 2013, 10:10 pm
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Just shows it's a matter of opinion. I much rather see
Bischoff and Brisco than Bryan. I personally think they are
better wrestlers than Daniel Bryan. They to me are also better
on the microphone than Bryan. Still I right now I would put all
three as mid-card wrestlers not main event status. I know it
all depends on the push that they get in their respective
alliances. I would disagree that Brisco and Bischoff would be
HOF material. They haven't wrestled long enough and really
haven't proved themselves like A.J., Double J,, Rood or Storm.
I agree that Sting should not have been the first inductee, that
should have gone to Double J. I also don't think that Angle
deserves to be in the hall either. They both made their names
in WCW and WWE not TNA. As for Hogan, he should NEVER get into
the TNA HOF because he never really wrestled that much in TNA or
spent the time that the four that deserves to be in the HOF.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: SheriffLonestar Date: July 22, 2013, 11:59 pm
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I guess the last thing I could say on the matter is to quote Jim
Ross "What is a push? You make your own push by putting in the
time and putting your hand up and saying I can be that guy."
Bryan is one of those guys. I agree with your last comments on
who should be in the Hall now as well. I can understand why
Sting got put in the hall, he won't get into the WWE Hall until
he leaves TNA, but he is not a TNA star first and foremost.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: tnafanforum Date: July 23, 2013, 8:18 am
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[quote author=ROBERT LAIRD link=topic=1878.msg14892#msg14892
date=1374549046]
Just shows it's a matter of opinion. I much rather see
Bischoff and Brisco than Bryan. I personally think they are
better wrestlers than Daniel Bryan. They to me are also better
on the microphone than Bryan. Still I right now I would put all
three as mid-card wrestlers not main event status. I know it
all depends on the push that they get in their respective
alliances. I would disagree that Brisco and Bischoff would be
HOF material. They haven't wrestled long enough and really
haven't proved themselves like A.J., Double J,, Rood or Storm.
I agree that Sting should not have been the first inductee, that
should have gone to Double J. I also don't think that Angle
deserves to be in the hall either. They both made their names
in WCW and WWE not TNA. As for Hogan, he should NEVER get into
the TNA HOF because he never really wrestled that much in TNA or
spent the time that the four that deserves to be in the HOF.
[/quote] I am with you about hogan but I think he will be put in
to it sooner than later. Because he will want to be in it when
it gets bigger and means more like the WWe one.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: ChrissiCalvert Date: July 23, 2013, 1:56 pm
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[quote author=ROBERT LAIRD link=topic=1878.msg14892#msg14892
date=1374549046]
Just shows it's a matter of opinion. I much rather see
Bischoff and Brisco than Bryan. I personally think they are
better wrestlers than Daniel Bryan. They to me are also better
on the microphone than Bryan. Still I right now I would put all
three as mid-card wrestlers not main event status. I know it
all depends on the push that they get in their respective
alliances. I would disagree that Brisco and Bischoff would be
HOF material. They haven't wrestled long enough and really
haven't proved themselves like A.J., Double J,, Rood or Storm.
I agree that Sting should not have been the first inductee, that
should have gone to Double J. I also don't think that Angle
deserves to be in the hall either. They both made their names
in WCW and WWE not TNA. As for Hogan, he should NEVER get into
the TNA HOF because he never really wrestled that much in TNA or
spent the time that the four that deserves to be in the HOF.
[/quote]
Go watch Daniel Bryan vs CM Punk at Over The Limit 2012 and tell
me how & why Bitchoff & Brisco are better wrestlers than Daniel
Bryan.
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Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: ROBERT LAIRD Date: July 23, 2013, 2:07 pm
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It is a matter of opinion on how I well I like Bischoff, Brisco
and Bryan. So please don't crucify me if my favorites or how I
rate wrestlers because it is MY opinion. Sorry Daniel Bryan
fans, I see more potiential in Bischoff and Brisco than I do in
Daniel Bryan. I still will put Daniel Bryan in the same
classification as I do Robbie E. and that isn't too high.
#Post#: 14946--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who should be next into TNA Hall Of Fame?
By: ROBERT LAIRD Date: July 23, 2013, 2:09 pm
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Also remember I am a Rock "basher".
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