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       #Post#: 4243--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Keppeltitan
       Date: December 29, 2019, 6:50 am
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       This season is worse than any I can remember and I've been
       supporting Roth since 1983 and what ever happens I will be there
       next season what ever league we are in.
       After saying that I agree about the blind faith from some people
       in the club house that every thing will turn out OK but it
       won't.
       We read every week that we have good players and every week
       teams that are getting hammered every week play us and beat us
       comfortably.
       Ask anybody that went to Sale and they will tell you that has
       got to be one of the worst performance in Roth's history and
       when the captain got on the supporters coach
       and said that was s*** it says it all.
       #Post#: 4244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Edinburgh Titan
       Date: December 29, 2019, 11:42 am
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       It is very clear that the club requires significant investment
       and it’s also clear that the current owners either don’t have
       it, or are not willing to put it in anymore. That’s fine, they
       just need to be honest with the fans as it’s easy to spend other
       people’s money. With investment comes a proper management
       structure, better communication, better facilities and better
       recruitment at all levels of the club. The club is poorly
       managed and it’s caught up with them. There are umpteen examples
       of better managed clubs operating a similar business model in
       National One, and even the Championship which proves it can be
       done.
       We have gone through umpteen coaches over the last few seasons,
       at what point do we start asking questions of the coach
       recruitment? I don’t enjoy writing what would appear wholly
       critical posts but we need some accountability, it’s not good
       enough and it’s sad to see our great club descending to what in
       effect is non league rugby.
       #Post#: 4245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Winger14
       Date: December 29, 2019, 12:13 pm
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       Bloody Hell Edinburgh Titan,  I can't believe it, but I agree
       with nearly  everything you have said.
       Mind you, I'll still keep looking thro my Rose Tinted
       Spectacles, and keep believing that everything will get
       better-----Eventually
       I'm putting one of my Hotels on Rotherham beating Plymouth on
       Saturday .
       I'm taking a risk there, as its one I own on Park
       Lane--------------------------------------------------On my
       Monopoly Board.
       #Post#: 4246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: John Shaw
       Date: December 29, 2019, 12:33 pm
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       ET
       Did you think Burnell, Jones, Keys, Posa were bad choices prior
       to them starting or is your wisdom after the event?
       Who would you like to see coaching us?
       #Post#: 4247--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Edinburgh Titan
       Date: December 29, 2019, 2:37 pm
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       For what it’s worth I’d like to see Nic Rouse back coaching the
       team as he is an example of what better coaching can do to an
       underperforming squad. However, I fear that the infrastructure
       that exists and the squad this season would prevent that
       happening again.
       Also, a coach of a decent standing would be taking a major risk
       to the quality of his cv in taking the job now but we’ll see.
       I’d view almost any coach as a better option than Martin
       Jenkinson coaching the team. We need to give ourselves every
       chance from dropping in to the abyss.
       I really hope that we can win the Plymouth game and gain some
       momentum. Enjoying the debate anyway with people who clearly
       care deeply about the club.
       #Post#: 4248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: John Shaw
       Date: December 29, 2019, 4:34 pm
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       It’s so hard to gain momentum when confidence is rock bottom.
       I’d forgotten about Nick Rouse.
       I agree that we need a backs coach.
       Let’s hope 2020 brings us more joy!
       #Post#: 4249--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Duncang
       Date: December 29, 2019, 4:38 pm
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       How much to get Mr Barker back?
       #Post#: 4250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Winger14
       Date: December 30, 2019, 1:09 pm
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       JOE BARKER
       Education = Queen Elizabeth Grammar School,  Wakefield
       Leeds Beckett University ---- BA in
       Sports Studies
       Rugby Player at Leeds Carnegie ------ 2009 - 2014
       Junior Development Squad Coach at Leeds  -  July 2014 - July
       2015                While playing for Doncaster Rugby Club
       Rugby Player at Rotherham Titans -------- July 2015 - August
       2019
       Head Coach ---------- May 2018 - August 2019
       England Caps at  U 16 - U 18 - U 19
       Licences & Certification
       RFU Level 1 Coaching
       RFU Level 2 Coaching
       RFU Level 3 Coaching
       RFU Level 3 Personal Training
       CPD Game Planning
       CPD Performance Analysis
       CPD Player Profiling
       CPD Scrum Factory
       First Aid
       CURRENTLY
       Player / Coach at Kowloon Rugby Club,  Hong Kong     Sep 2019 to
       Present
       Teaching Assistant at  Mount Kelly School,  Hong Kong    Aug
       2019 to Present
       YES  We'll Have Him Back
       #Post#: 4251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Jim Garbutt
       Date: December 30, 2019, 1:24 pm
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       Sure we could find a TA post for him - get him back. Actually if
       we have confidence we can get out of this. It must start with
       beating plymouth this weekend. I think Moseley will lose and
       that would put us about 4 pts maybe 5 behind. We have moseley at
       home and if we win that then it is all to play for. However I
       now think Moseley is the only team we can overtake. If we lose
       at home to Plymouth then it is that bit harder. If we lose to
       Plymouth and Moseley then it will be nearly an impossible
       mountain. I still have faith - but who exactly is the coach now?
       #Post#: 4253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale away
   DIR By: Kimmi Dave
       Date: December 30, 2019, 3:09 pm
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       I remember talking to the players about Joe Barker my view at
       the time was I thought he should be playing less and being more
       hands off on the field but the players I spoke to all said that
       they played better for having him on the pitch and that his read
       of the game was second to non. I for one would love to see him
       back.
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