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       #Post#: 12754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Jim Garbutt
       Date: October 18, 2025, 3:56 pm
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       Both Plymouth and Blackheath lost which shows how tight this
       league is. All games are tough but we are in a very good
       position.
       #Post#: 12755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Winger14
       Date: October 18, 2025, 5:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rothman2 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Winger14 link=topic=2030.msg12750#msg12750
       date=1760809962]
       > I've had a look at the BRISTOL website and there were   7
       players from Bristol in the DINGS starting  15.
       >
       > Hooker - Prop - Open Side - Blind Side - No8 - Ouside Centre
       and Full Back             5 Forwards out of 8    No wonder our
       Forwards were Struggling
       >
       > How many Loanee's  is a Club allowed in a Match Day Squad  ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you have a link for this Winger?
       No,  sorry.       I simply looked at how many of Dings squad
       were on Bristols squad lists,   1 ist team player and 6 Academy
       players.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 12756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Rothoik
       Date: October 19, 2025, 5:02 am
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       I looked at the listings in the rugby paper and Dings fielded 6
       changes from the team that got thrashed by Plymouth last week. 4
       of these were Bristol Academy players (at least). There is a
       player listed as "A.N. Other" who could have been an import. It
       is such a surprising result that I find myself fishing for
       answers, from what I have read Dings really turned on the style
       and just out-played us, but that is some turn around from last
       week. With Plymouth losing at Judds, next Saturday will provide
       a really good benchmark for where we are at. I guess the
       Birmingham Mosely win against Blackheath was also surprising so
       it does show how the matches can turn on small margins, with
       some of our big wins being forged in the latter part of the
       second half. I'ts a really tough league whereby you need to be
       at or around your best for 80 minutes.
       #Post#: 12758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: setter
       Date: October 19, 2025, 12:49 pm
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       We scored 5 tries - they just scored more.
       The inexperience of the 9 and 10 did not seem to contribute
       significantly to our issues when we had the ball. We only got
       pounced on once, I think.
       The surprises for me were: almost every breakdown, we gave away
       a penalty (maybe the 2 Brizz flankers?); our line was broken
       more times in one afternoon than the whole of the rest of the
       season put together - a lot of it through the middle; number of
       scrums probably in single figures.
       It felt a bit like the Bishops Stortford game last season.
       It will still be good to get some of the missing players back.
       Noticed Jackson Barling and Isaac Shaw both limping at points in
       the 2nd half - hope they are both ok.
       #Post#: 12759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Chris.Garbutt
       Date: October 20, 2025, 8:28 am
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       --- Quote from: IRGeech link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chris.Garbutt link=topic=2030.msg12746#msg12746
       date=1760805823]
       > Poor result. Sounds like the 9 + 10 combo didn't work to well.
       I thought the 10 looked like he needed a lot of work in pre
       season. Corben should have been given his chance as a proven 10
       at this level (if he is fit.)
       >
       > We can't make excuses for this loss, we just weren't good
       enough on the day and the nature of this league is that anyone
       can beat anyone. Time to pick ourselves back up and kick back
       with a good game next week.
       >
       > I'd have taken 6 wins from 7 and second in the league at this
       stage at the start of the season.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That’s a strange take. 9 and 10 were fine and have played
       together plenty before here, back three also did well. Today was
       all down the forwards coming off second best and getting out
       fought and out rucked - we didn’t see the ball for the first 15
       minutes. Dings were more up for it and stacked full of ringers
       from Brizz too.
       [/quote]
       I don't think it is strange take what so ever. When you have a
       proven player at this level in a key position it is normal to
       question them not been selected particularly when this area
       seems to have struggled. Others have also pointed out that this
       area wasn't as strong as it could have been which is to be
       expected in there first game together at this level. University
       Rugby is one thing, competitive National 1 is another. In this
       league 6 wins from the first 7 is a good result. I can't
       remember the last time anyone went unbeaten in this league.
       Potentially Ealing 10 or so years ago, though I think they lost
       1 or 2.
       As for the Bristol 'Ringers', Dings had Bristol academy players
       in the starting line up and 1 first team though not a first team
       shoe in. We are not looking at 7 players who are going to be in
       Bristol's first team each week. We know Dings have the link with
       Bristol and do come away with these performances from time to
       time. I think they had a few out of the blue results like this
       last season too if my memory is correct.
       As I said before, we don't need to make excuses, we got beat by
       the better side on the day. Similar to last seasons home game
       against Bishops Stortford. Now we dust ourselves off and go
       again this week against a solid Tonbridge side. This next string
       of 5 games will give us a great look as to where we are.
       Tonbridge, Blackheath, Rams and Plymouth all coming up.
       #Post#: 12760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Rothoik
       Date: October 20, 2025, 8:39 am
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       It is difficult to establish a "form book" in this league as the
       results swing all over the place, you can get beaten by a team
       that got thrashed by a team that you have beaten. It doesnt
       always add-up and can be a real head scratcher. Hopefully, it
       will have sharpened us up in that we came across a team that on
       that day operated at a faster pace than we had been used to. We
       still scored 5 tries so our attack is still functioning, we
       might want to shore up the defense a little going forward
       (although it was pretty good against one of the most dangerous
       attacking sides in the league the previous week). Judds have
       taken some scalps, with comparable scorelines to ourselves, and
       have just beaten Plymouth so they are a serious threat. I think
       they have Nathan Earle playing (ex England International and a
       player who was a star in the U20s circuit). Should be a great
       match. Hope we can select from close to full strength. Does
       anyone have any injury updates??
       #Post#: 12763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: IRGeech
       Date: October 20, 2025, 10:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Rothoik link ---
       >
       > I looked at the listings in the rugby paper and Dings fielded
       6 changes from the team that got thrashed by Plymouth last week.
       4 of these were Bristol Academy players (at least). There is a
       player listed as "A.N. Other" who could have been an
       import[quote author=Chris.Garbutt
       link=topic=2030.msg12759#msg12759 date=1760966938]
       > [quote author=IRGeech link=topic=2030.msg12747#msg12747
       date=1760806101]
       > [quote author=Chris.Garbutt link=topic=2030.msg12746#msg12746
       date=1760805823]
       > Poor result. Sounds like the 9 + 10 combo didn't work to well.
       I thought the 10 looked like he needed a lot of work in pre
       season. Corben should have been given his chance as a proven 10
       at this level (if he is fit.)
       >
       > We can't make excuses for this loss, we just weren't good
       enough on the day and the nature of this league is that anyone
       can beat anyone. Time to pick ourselves back up and kick back
       with a good game next week.
       >
       > I'd have taken 6 wins from 7 and second in the league at this
       stage at the start of the season.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That’s a strange take. 9 and 10 were fine and have played
       together plenty before here, back three also did well. Today was
       all down the forwards coming off second best and getting out
       fought and out rucked - we didn’t see the ball for the first 15
       minutes. Dings were more up for it and stacked full of ringers
       from Brizz too.
       [/quote]
       I don't think it is strange take what so ever. When you have a
       proven player at this level in a key position it is normal to
       question them not been selected particularly when this area
       seems to have struggled. Others have also pointed out that this
       area wasn't as strong as it could have been which is to be
       expected in there first game together at this level. University
       Rugby is one thing, competitive National 1 is another. In this
       league 6 wins from the first 7 is a good result. I can't
       remember the last time anyone went unbeaten in this league.
       Potentially Ealing 10 or so years ago, though I think they lost
       1 or 2.
       As for the Bristol 'Ringers', Dings had Bristol academy players
       in the starting line up and 1 first team though not a first team
       shoe in. We are not looking at 7 players who are going to be in
       Bristol's first team each week. We know Dings have the link with
       Bristol and do come away with these performances from time to
       time. I think they had a few out of the blue results like this
       last season too if my memory is correct.
       As I said before, we don't need to make excuses, we got beat by
       the better side on the day. Similar to last seasons home game
       against Bishops Stortford. Now we dust ourselves off and go
       again this week against a solid Tonbridge side. This next string
       of 5 games will give us a great look as to where we are.
       Tonbridge, Blackheath, Rams and Plymouth all coming up.
       [/quote]. It is such a surprising result that I find myself
       fishing for answers, from what I have read Dings really turned
       on the style and just out-played us, but that is some turn
       around from last week. With Plymouth losing at Judds, next
       Saturday will provide a really good benchmark for where we are
       at. I guess the Birmingham Mosely win against Blackheath was
       also surprising so it does show how the matches can turn on
       small margins, with some of our big wins being forged in the
       latter part of the second half. I'ts a really tough league
       whereby you need to be at or around your best for 80 minutes.
       [/quote]
       My point, as with the comment above yours, is that it had no
       effect on the game as we didn’t see the ball. Had you watched
       the game, you’d know. But yes, incredibly tight league, which
       makes for much excitement.
       #Post#: 12767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Jim Garbutt
       Date: October 21, 2025, 5:22 am
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       Chris has watched Roth for 30 years and has a great
       understanding of the team and the squad. It is rare we miss a
       game , home or away. He has a passion for the club and indeed
       played for them as a junior. We both rate Corbyn and have seen
       him play very well indeed for us, so it was a genuine question
       coming from the right place. As he said, we would both have
       taken 6 out of 7 at this stage. We knew we had assembled a
       strong squad as soon as we saw that first half at sale this
       season. We will be up there but both thought Dings was a
       surprise. Mind you they did push us last season. Sadly we were
       away this weekend but we really like going to Dings. A mate has
       coached there also.
       #Post#: 12768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: IRGeech
       Date: October 22, 2025, 8:57 am
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       Fair enough, but going on multiple sites to pin the loss on two
       new, young, inexperienced signings is not cool, especially when
       that clearly was not why we didn’t get the W.
       We move on and let’s get up for this weekend.
       #Post#: 12769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dings Vs Rotherham - Latest Scores
   DIR By: Chris.Garbutt
       Date: October 22, 2025, 9:20 am
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       I have not tried to 'pin the loss' on anyone. That is frankly
       ridiculous and the real 'strange take'. It seems like you may
       have a vested interest in one of these players to take simple
       comments so personally. Competitive sport brings criticism.
       There is a massive difference between saying two players seem to
       have struggled than saying the loss was entirely the fault of
       those two players. On this board I was really questioning the
       selection choice more than the performance of the 9 and 10.
       Players can only play to their ability. These are message boards
       where you discuss games. It is not always going to be constant
       praise particularly if you loose.
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