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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: nutsua Date: February 12, 2012, 10:22 am
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       I'll just say lfa
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: Rob1796 Date: February 12, 2012, 11:55 am
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       [quote author=josh89 link=topic=255.msg2513#msg2513
       date=1329062433]
       right on and ethan all i have to say is 2jzgte best engine ever
       [/quote]
       LSx>2JZ.
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: usarmyethan Date: February 12, 2012, 11:58 am
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       2jz and lfa?
       I say boxer and BRZ.
       Correct the BRZ is not technically as fast as the LFA but then
       again how much does that enormous hunk of steel cost anyway?
       Toyota's attempt at bringing back their name as a legendary
       performance Icon was crumbled when they handed the reigns over
       to the lexus department and made it a luxury performance
       vehicle.
       Why do you buy an M3 but not an Audi S4 or S5? Simple, the
       Audi's have been rated and known for their "lovely" german
       luxury interiors and exteriors. The m3? Just fast. But people
       that buy those cars SHOULDNT want the luxury, just the speed.
       (Audi Employee <--) I see these people all the time, trust me.
       95% of R8 owners that I know take m3's over anything quick that
       audi or mercedes can make because the m3 is the one thats most
       about the speed.
       *off soapbox*
       Go Subaru.
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: nutsua Date: February 12, 2012, 12:16 pm
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       I'd take the frs over the brz, so  :P
       I can agree with everything on BMW, they have a huge history in
       the le man's and a number of motorsports. But Subaru lost my
       vote when they dropped off the wrc and decided to be safe. What
       about Peugeot or lancia, or even maybe Honda. But I think it's
       either ford or nissan
       #Post#: 2520--------------------------------------------------
       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: usarmyethan Date: February 12, 2012, 12:33 pm
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       True on the WRC comment. I do wish they would have stayed in.
       But then again looking at lancia's and the like as rally cars
       you have to consider the old Audi Quattro and how
       extraordinaryily legendary it made the brand for german car
       enthusiasts.
       But flipping ahea to the past 22 years and given what you
       suggested (ford or Nissan) I would take Nissan.
       Despite my friends VQ in his G35 blowing up promptly after
       reaching 100k miles their more recent porductions of VQ motors
       have been solid and trustworthy. They also can pack some power
       without too much internal mishap worry. Granted my absolute
       favorite car of all time is... you guessed it... Godzilla.
       RB26DETT. When I see that Engine acronym I shrivel into a ball
       and cringe at it's pure awesomeness.
       Common quotes;
       "Oh, your R34 only has 1,000hp? what are you doing wrong?"
       "Bro, its okay, I know you just got your ZR1 but you lost to a
       GTR so it's respectable"
       "Oh man my Ferrari just got creamed by Jotech's green GTR,
       must...buy...more...MANLINESS"
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: Zerokei Date: February 12, 2012, 6:41 pm
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       New here, but I'd liek to throw my lot in. I'd say Nissan
       skyline R-34 hands down. What other car has pulled as many G's
       in a turn as that one? Beastly. 0_o
       #Post#: 2533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: VtecRida89 Date: February 12, 2012, 11:47 pm
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       Bahahaha Thats easy!!! Honda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: josh89 Date: February 13, 2012, 1:25 am
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       hey nutsua the brz and frs are essentially identical the only
       real difference is that the frs is going to be like 2 grand
       cheaper where as the brz will have better features plus would
       you really rather have the scion emblem or the subaru emblem ill
       take that subie emblem over the scion emblem any day but thats
       just my personal preference
       #Post#: 2542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: nutsua Date: February 13, 2012, 1:44 am
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       Lol I know they're the same, I just like frs name more then the
       subi's... Which I forgot cause I don't know what it stands for.
       Front engine Rear wheel drive Sports car is easy to remember
       lol. Personally I don't really want either till Nissan puts out
       the new s chassis
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       Re: who is the best car maker of all time
       By: josh89 Date: February 13, 2012, 2:02 am
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       yea hopefully when they do put out a new s chassis its just as
       sexy as the s13, s14, and s15 were
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