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#Post#: 387--------------------------------------------------
Foil not required...
DIR By: Wetstuff
Date: August 12, 2020, 12:08 pm
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I apologize in advance for not having photos or video. My
friend, Eddie, and his buddy Harry, in their 50s, are regular
dawn patrollers at a dumpy, local shorebreak that tends to get
wind on it by 10 am. Eddie and Harry are really quite good SUP
surfers, but Eddie is mesmerized by this 'Wing' and 'Foil'
thing. I sold him a 4M WASP. He had never kited or windsurfed,
only paddle sports. Eddie said it would probably be best to not
be seen in public initially - I am assuming he did not want to
be embarrassed in front of the parking lot critics that often do
not surf all that well themselves.
He tells me he played around in the backyard a few times before
heading off to their spot. His board is an older, 9-0 Riveria
NUGG. As he tells it; 'He pumps up on the beach ..and with a
side-on wind of about (he's guessing) 15kts he side-crawls out
thru the lineup and makes it outside without that big ego
deflation you get when your very first start of something new is
a fail. Outside he is drifting downwind waiting for a set wave
- spots one - and powerslides into the wave and rides it all the
way in. The rest of the morning sounded much like; 'rinse and
repeat'. (' not likely as good as that first wave..)
The part where the big smile came while telling was about the
parking lot when they were done. I gather there were a number
of people who came over and said; 'What is that?!' At this
point, I am not sure he needs to mess with the foil. There are
lots of ways to enjoy the water.
Jim
Their names are not real, just the people.
#Post#: 389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: RussAndy
Date: August 12, 2020, 1:32 pm
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Wetstuff, that is great and kinda where my wife is. She uses a
SUP to wing with.
There is a cool product that we use called a Drift Stopper that
allows you to go upwind with.
He might want to look into that to help him get and stay upwind.
HTML https://shop.duotonesports.com/en-gb/add-on-drift-stopper-14200--8010
#Post#: 390--------------------------------------------------
Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: wolle
Date: August 13, 2020, 1:06 am
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Thats interesting wetstuff. May be you can post a video or
pictures in the future.
Imho this ist the better solution to upgrade your Sup for going
upwind:
HTML https://www.thekiteboarder.com/2020/07/introducing-the-new-sup-winder-from-slingshot/
[img width=480
height=480]
HTML https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-cam6oqe/images/stencil/608x608/products/9854/25858/supwinder__59720.1595435177.png?c=2&imbypass=on[/img]
#Post#: 392--------------------------------------------------
Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: knatti
Date: August 13, 2020, 8:16 am
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I started myself with a SUP (without waves) and Wing, I found it
was a bit boring after a while. But with waves you can use the
Wing like a lift to take you out. Some years back I was trying
to learn surfing, and the thing I remember most is all this
paddling out through the waves. Already exhausted you try your
best on the next wave and then you have to go back out again.
I also followed some people on YouTube who review SUP boards,
they ended up downwind on the lake, but they had fun trying
something new.
This is what I built myself
It kept me upwind but did add some drag and the strap begins to
vibrate
[attachimg=1]
#Post#: 393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: RussAndy
Date: August 13, 2020, 5:46 pm
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That Slingshot product looks great.
Its cheaper than the driftstoper and probably provides a more
realistic experience.
The benefit of the drift stopper is that you can switch boards
with it. And I would imagine it is more durable than the SUP
Winder.
Anyway, great that we have these two options available.
#Post#: 405--------------------------------------------------
Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: Wetstuff
Date: September 9, 2020, 2:06 pm
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My friend (we do not have the same schedule) told me he will
finally add a fin. "A big hatchet fin", he said. The way he
describes it, he buries the rail to take advantage of the rather
full outline of this surf SUP. My personal experience is I
found a 27" wide 12-6 gun shape worked much better than a 31"
wide, 10' nose rider.
AND, I was lead to believe an old sailboard with a centerboard
would rocket upwind. I bought BIC cheap and parked it. It was
very heavy and had (to my eye) too much nose kick so the 12' OA
was quite a bit shorter. I also used it with booties -a mistake
for me- due to nerve issues; I need direct contact with my feet
to feel what is happening.
One day - I will get some pics. He's done about his fourth
session and now has foil-fever.
Jim
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Re: Foil not required...
DIR By: ericmsil
Date: September 15, 2020, 12:12 pm
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Another solution would be to use a ready base of keel base for
inflatable board and glue it to the base of the board with 3m
double-sided tape, I believe it would not release, as the foil
mount is also glued with double-sided tape.
HTML https://hoenalu.com/en/product/starboard/starboard-fin-base-inflatable-boards
best regards
Eric
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