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       #Post#: 371--------------------------------------------------
       Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: james
       Date: July 31, 2020, 4:33 am
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       Hi!
       I have a Moses Onda 633/483/91 that I use for kiting. I’d like
       to try wing foiling but I don’t want to spend a lot of money or
       acquire too much gear in case I don’t like it and need to sell
       it. I live in a small apartment too, so the less stuff the
       better.
       I’m thinking of just buying the Moses 1100 front wing, and a
       cheap board and maybe an Ozone Wasp 5m.
       I know the 91 mast is not the stiffest, but would it be okay for
       learning? I’m not a good kite foiler, still working on gybes.
       Thanks!
       James
       #Post#: 388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: deja vu
       Date: August 12, 2020, 1:13 pm
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       Here's the Onda in action with the 1100 wing.  It shouldn't take
       you long to surpass B. Muller!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIdyb4UUDI&t=11s
       #Post#: 391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: August 13, 2020, 5:08 am
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       --- Quote from: james link ---
       >
       > Hi!
       >
       > I have a Moses Onda 633/483/91 that I use for kiting. I’d like
       to try wing foiling but I don’t want to spend a lot of money or
       acquire too much gear in case I don’t like it and need to sell
       it. I live in a small apartment too, so the less stuff the
       better.
       >
       > I’m thinking of just buying the Moses 1100 front wing, and a
       cheap board and maybe an Ozone Wasp 5m.
       >
       > I know the 91 mast is not the stiffest, but would it be okay
       for learning? I’m not a good kite foiler, still working on
       gybes.
       >
       > Thanks!
       > James
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi James,
       It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless you
       have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have some
       difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be ok.
       --
       Gunnar
       #Post#: 394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: max
       Date: August 14, 2020, 3:09 am
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       --- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
       >
       >
       > Hi James,
       >
       > It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless
       you have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have
       some difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be
       ok.
       >
       > --
       > Gunnar
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       hi Gunnar . . . is the difficulty with gybes related to the 91cm
       mast being not stiff enough or just that James said that he was
       still working on gybes?
       I am in same boat as James . . . though I can gybe and tack on a
       foil.
       I already have the 679, 633 and 720 but only the 91cm mast and
       was hoping to get away with just adding a bigger wing like the
       W1100 for winging without the added expense of getting the 82cm
       mast.
       #Post#: 396--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: August 16, 2020, 1:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: max link ---
       >
       > [quote author=gmb13 link=topic=91.msg391#msg391
       date=1597313318]
       >
       > Hi James,
       >
       > It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless
       you have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have
       some difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be
       ok.
       >
       > --
       > Gunnar
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Max,
       The extra Flex makes the foil a bit unstable in manuvers, hence
       making the gybes etc a bit more tricky.
       --
       Gunnar
       hi Gunnar . . . is the difficulty with gybes related to the 91cm
       mast being not stiff enough or just that James said that he was
       still working on gybes?
       I am in same boat as James . . . though I can gybe and tack on a
       foil.
       I already have the 679, 633 and 720 but only the 91cm mast and
       was hoping to get away with just adding a bigger wing like the
       W1100 for winging without the added expense of getting the 82cm
       mast.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: Mike dubs
       Date: September 1, 2020, 12:28 pm
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       Gunnar,
       I’m using my 790 more for winging now than the 1100 unless it’s
       super light. What’s the next Moses front wing as a step down
       from the 790.
       Mike
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       Re: Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: September 4, 2020, 7:17 am
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       --- Quote from: Mike dubs link ---
       >
       > Gunnar,
       >
       > I’m using my 790 more for winging now than the 1100 unless
       it’s super light. What’s the next Moses front wing as a step
       down from the 790.
       >
       > Mike
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Mike.
       The next step down would be wither the 633 or 679.  Or
       alternatively the W1000
       --
       Gunnar
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