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How much better are high aspect wings?
DIR By: Seabass
Date: April 24, 2020, 12:41 pm
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Looking to upgrade my foil and reading a lot about how great
these new high aspect wings are surf winging (Go Foil GL, Uni
foil Hyper, Axis s).
Is this just to make me buy more stuff or is there something to
it?
How do they work in the surf and do they need more wind to get
going?
Are they to extreme for the average winger?
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Re: How much better are high aspect wings?
DIR By: phil
Date: April 25, 2020, 3:23 am
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I have not winged with them so my experience is from kitefoiling
and general knowledge. HA foils tend to have more lift than a
lower aspect foil with same surface area and profile. They have
much better glide so they just feel faster and this also makes
them a bit hard to ride well until you get used to the
"quickness". Pitch control is harder but they are more roll
stable (which can be good but harder to learn to carve tightly).
They pump and glide really well and therefore popular with
prone and SUP foilers in waves and on downwinders. They stall
much more abruptly than lower aspect wings and seem less
forgiving of a wing tip ventilation (at least in my experience).
So it all depends on what you are looking for. If you are still
at the stage where you are working on things like transitions or
weak side riding, lower aspect wings are easier. If you have it
all dialed in and what something livelier, HA might do it. If
you are just getting into surfing waves and not super
comfortable yet in waves, lower aspect is easier.
#Post#: 218--------------------------------------------------
Re: How much better are high aspect wings?
DIR By: mikesids
Date: April 25, 2020, 4:09 am
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They are amazing. Amazing. When you are riding bumps and are
one- handing the wing they just project forward so much more
when you pump than low aspect wings. Amazing glide. I learned on
an Axis 102 then after 5 sessions switched to the Axis 1000.
Total revelation. Recently got the Axis 1010 for lighter winds ,
it has great low end lift and also very good resistance to low
speed stalling. There’s almost no downsides to HA wings in my
eyes , low aspect wings just feel so slow by comparison . And
you outgrow LA wings quickly. Don’t see any reason why you
couldn’t learn on an HA wing of around 1300-1500 cm2. My two
cents.
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Re: How much better are high aspect wings?
DIR By: Dommo
Date: April 26, 2020, 5:34 am
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I'm also super excited to get my hands on the new HA wings. For
a good explanation of the differences between the new GoFoil
'GL' wings compared to their original range you can watch the
'GL unveiling' videos (in 3 parts) - link to first one below.
I expect there are differences in performance between different
brands, but the GoFoil HA wings are meant to glide through the
water super fast and smooth - once up and flying they don't slow
as easily which makes it much easier to connect bumps. They also
turn and surf pretty well - you can see no end of videos of
various people ripping it up on Gofoils in the surf, mainly
using the GL180 or 140. Search YouTube for Austin Kalama or
Derek Hamasaki or just type in GoFoil 180 and you'll find loads.
They are also pumping machines. Austin Kalama connected 25 waves
in a row on the 180.
The downside to them is they haven't got quite as much initial
lift, so are a bit harder to get going, and people say they are
more sensitive to pitch as well. These traits means they aren't
the right choice for a beginner, but most people say that as
soon as you can ride reasonably well you're ready to use them.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdDmK5bIZ8g
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Re: How much better are high aspect wings?
DIR By: Seabass
Date: April 30, 2020, 2:42 pm
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Lots of good info reg. LA VS HA
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZL26RgEOis
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