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#Post#: 202--------------------------------------------------
Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 22, 2020, 2:15 pm
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So, I've got a few days on my wing setup now. I can get up and
foiling on both tacks, but haven't been able to gybe.
I can get the board around OK, because it's no harder than
kitefoiling, but don't know what to do with the wing. I have to
switch hands, and never end up putting my hands in the right
place. I also haven't tried riding toeside yet.
What's the easiest way to learn to gybe?
Switch feet to toeside, learn to ride toeside, then gybe back to
heelside (i.e., foot switch before turn)?
Or should I gybe to toeside and work on the "hand switch" first?
If I do this, I have to learn the hand switch and toeside riding
simultaneously, which might be harder.
Maybe I should just practice the hand switch on the beach a
hundred times first?
What's going to be the most effective way to learn to gybe with
a foot switch?
#Post#: 203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: phil
Date: April 23, 2020, 3:08 am
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I am a few session behind you in ability but my plan is to
practice bringing the wing around on land a bunch of times.
Since there is so much variation in different wings as far as
handles (or boom), there is probably no standard best way to do
this.
#Post#: 205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: stenninger
Date: April 23, 2020, 4:09 am
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the wind actually makes a big difference for me.
In stronger winds just start going into a larger radius and
'umbrella' your wing. The larger radius gives you lots of time
to slowly turn your wing over your head and switch handles. Once
I switched handles I do move the wing actively to the new side
while still going downwind. It did help me a lot to really move
the wing to the new side (left side in right turns and the other
way around)
Now finish your turn quickly and ride on (still switch).
In light wind it is more difficult. The wing tends to fall down
because your speed is the same as the wind speed once you are
going downwind. A tighter turn helps. But then you have to
switch handles quicker.
#Post#: 208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: Solent Foiler
Date: April 23, 2020, 9:21 am
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Ah... Gybing was trickier than I expected. I can windsurf gybe
and learnt to foil at a wakepark so done hundreds of both
heelside and toeside 180 turns at each end of the cable so
thought gybes would be straight forward.
I learnt to wing on really choppy patch of water so first lesson
for me was to pay close attention to ride height and actually
keep the foil in the water as I carved.
What I underestimated was doing two things at once - maintaining
the carve (with good ride height) and the hand switch. Just had
to repeat enough times until I didn't have to think about it too
much.
On foot switch (ex windsurfer!) after hand switch I found it
helpful to really focus on where your new front foot needs to
land.
If I remember to look through the turn, and focus front foot
landing in the right place, the rest seems to follow...
#Post#: 209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: gmb13
Date: April 23, 2020, 1:05 pm
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Gybing is super easy, as long as you don't overcomplicate
things. Here are a few things people do that screw it up.
1) They try to use the wing to power though the gybe: This
usually ends up stalling the wing. Instead just let go of your
back hand as soon as you start carving the board around. Do NOT
switch hands until you have carved all the way around and the
board is pointing in the new direct. Just get the wing out of
the way by holding it over your head during the an manuver.
Once you are around, then change the hands over. Free hand to
the handle you are holding, and once you have it there, then
move your old front hand to the back.
2) They go into the gybe too slow. If you go into the gybe to
slow you wont have the momentum to carry you though the gybe.
3) They head upwind before entering the gybe. This slows you
down and also makes you cover more ground in the gybe. It takes
less speed and energy to gybe on a downwind course.
Have a look at this video from the 96 seconds
HTML https://youtu.be/f2oHCv5KVEg?t=96
--
Gunnar
#Post#: 210--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: BluePlanet
Date: April 23, 2020, 1:12 pm
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This is my first post on this forum. I made this step by step
tutorial video a while back:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anVA1HoN3V8
#Post#: 212--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: phil
Date: April 23, 2020, 5:14 pm
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--- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
>
> Gybing is super easy, as long as you don't overcomplicate
things. Here are a few things people do that screw it up.
>
> 1) They try to use the wing to power though the gybe: This
usually ends up stalling the wing. Instead just let go of your
back hand as soon as you start carving the board around. Do NOT
switch hands until you have carved all the way around and the
board is pointing in the new direct. Just get the wing out of
the way by holding it over your head during the an manuver.
Once you are around, then change the hands over. Free hand to
the handle you are holding, and once you have it there, then
move your old front hand to the back.
>
> 2) They go into the gybe too slow. If you go into the gybe
to slow you wont have the momentum to carry you though the gybe.
>
> 3) They head upwind before entering the gybe. This slows you
down and also makes you cover more ground in the gybe. It takes
less speed and energy to gybe on a downwind course.
>
> Have a look at this video from the 96 seconds
>
>
HTML https://youtu.be/f2oHCv5KVEg?t=96
>
>
>
> --
> Gunnar
>
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I am barely able to foil in both directions but did a successful
gybe on my first attempt today. I basically did what Gunnar
describes (before reading this) because it is pretty intuitive.
Key is to have some speed so you can remain on foil. As I
started going down wind, I spun my wing towards me and kept
turning my board, then grabbed wing in the other direction and
rode away toeside. I am not particularly athletic.
#Post#: 213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 24, 2020, 11:06 am
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I tried this a few more times yesterday and still haven't quite
got it yet. I think the thing that's holding me up is just
general unfamiliarity with the wing. I go to switch hands and
just miss the right handle, so I have to look at the wing and
find where my hands are supposed to go, and then I fall off foil
while I'm messing with the wing. I just need more practice I
think.
#Post#: 214--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: gmb13
Date: April 24, 2020, 11:16 am
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--- Quote from: tyler link ---
>
> I tried this a few more times yesterday and still haven't
quite got it yet. I think the thing that's holding me up is just
general unfamiliarity with the wing. I go to switch hands and
just miss the right handle, so I have to look at the wing and
find where my hands are supposed to go, and then I fall off foil
while I'm messing with the wing. I just need more practice I
think.
>
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Are you leaving both hands on the Wing during the turn? Or are
you letting go with the back hand?
If your backhand is free, just bring it to your hand that is
still holding the front handle when you are though the turn.
--
Gunnar
#Post#: 220--------------------------------------------------
Re: Any tips on gybing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 25, 2020, 4:35 pm
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I've been using the Y handles on the wing because I like that I
can slide my hands forward/back from the position of the leading
edge handle back to the first handle on the strut without
letting go. But that means I can't just bring my hands together,
because I have to reach for the opposite Y handle. Would it be
easier to learn while holding the first handle on the center
strut with my front hand?
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