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#Post#: 179--------------------------------------------------
Quiver combination
By: Seabass Date: April 11, 2020, 7:57 am
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Hello fellow wingdingers,
How big a gap can you have between sizes?
Having only had appr. 10 sessions on a borrowed Duotone 4m I
don't have a lot to compare with...
I would like to buy two Duotone Echo's and of course cover as
much wind range as possible.
Do you think I can go 3.3m and 5m or will the gap be to big?
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Dommo Date: April 11, 2020, 10:28 am
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What is the average wind speed with you? Unless you are fairly
light you'll need VERY high wind to use a 3.3. I'm 85kg and need
around 18 knots to use my 4m - I reckon it's sweet spot is 20-25
knots for me. A 5m is perfect for my weight in 15-20 knots - I
could hold them in a fair amount more wind but it just gets
uncomfortable and the more overpowered you are the quicker you
tire.
It depends on your skill level, but especially as a beginner, if
you go for too big a gap you'll have a range in between the two
wings that one hasn't got enough power while the other has too
much power. Having said that I wouldn't have though a 1.7m gap
would be impossible - I'm sure you can hang onto the 5m until
there's enough power for the 3.3m to take over (they are fairly
easy to depower), but unless you live in an area which is
blessed with LOTS of wind (or you are very light), you might be
better going for a slightly bigger wing than a 3.3m. Other sizes
you could consider are a 3.6m (I think f-one does this size) to
pair with your 5m, or if you go for a 4m you could pair it with
the Naish s25 5.3m. It really depends on your weight and the
wind conditions you'll be using them in. We mostly get very
light wings here so I have a 7m, a 5.3m, and a 4m for the odd
time when it blasts, but if I had to get rid of one I would drop
the 4m simply because i don't get to use it as much as the
others because of the wind conditions here.
Gong do a chart that gives guidance for wing size/wind
range/rider weight that could be useful, but I think that some
of their estimations for the smaller sizes are a bit optimistic,
especially for beginners - I'm not sure I'd want to hold onto a
3m in 57 knots!!!!!!! See the link for the chart - scroll to
near the bottom of the page and click on 'Buying Guide':
HTML https://www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/gong-wing-pulse/
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Slyde Date: April 11, 2020, 3:50 pm
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That’ll work fine. Cover a good wind range. There will be days
when it’s not perfect for either but unless you have every size
that’s always going to be the case. You’ll love the small one
on days when it’s really blowing. My fave size is 2.8. Shame I
haven’t used it for a while but winter storms will be on the way
soon over here. Woohoo. The better you get the more high and low
end you will milk out of both sizes.
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Re: Quiver combination
By: phil Date: April 12, 2020, 4:36 pm
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I think people are finding that they can skip one size and be
fine, especially as their skills improve. Also helps to have a
couple of foils you can add to the mix. Probably best to stay
with one brand however.
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Dommo Date: April 12, 2020, 11:21 pm
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[quote author=Slyde link=topic=41.msg181#msg181 date=1586638240]
That’ll work fine. Cover a good wind range. There will be days
when it’s not perfect for either but unless you have every size
that’s always going to be the case. You’ll love the small one
on days when it’s really blowing. My fave size is 2.8. Shame I
haven’t used it for a while but winter storms will be on the way
soon over here. Woohoo. The better you get the more high and low
end you will milk out of both sizes.
[/quote]
Wow, 2.8 is tiny. What wind range do you use it in and how much
do you weigh?
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Slyde Date: April 13, 2020, 4:56 am
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73kg. S-wing 2.8 is pretty powerful. Low end probably 20 knots
at a pinch. Never hit the top but when its 30 knots you know all
about it. So compact in your hand with the short boom and
wingspan. Swell riding with a small wing is so cool.
#Post#: 186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Quiver combination
By: stenninger Date: April 13, 2020, 3:00 pm
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I'm (82kg) using a Gong Superpower 6m in 12-20kn and a Gong
Pulse 4m from 20kn upwards. (did not ride in in more than 25kn
so far)
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Dommo Date: April 14, 2020, 3:19 am
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[quote author=stenninger link=topic=41.msg186#msg186
date=1586808012]
I'm (82kg) using a Gong Superpower 6m in 12-20kn and a Gong
Pulse 4m from 20kn upwards. (did not ride in in more than 25kn
so far)
[/quote]
Hi Stenninger. How does the Gong superpower handle? I see from
pics that its deeper (longer central strut) and was wondering
what difference that makes to it's handling compared to the
usual designs.
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Re: Quiver combination
By: stenninger Date: April 14, 2020, 4:05 am
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[quote author=Dommo link=topic=41.msg188#msg188 date=1586852343]
Hi Stenninger. How does the Gong superpower handle? I see from
pics that its deeper (longer central strut) and was wondering
what difference that makes to it's handling compared to the
usual designs.
[/quote]
Hm, difficult to answer. Especially because I'm still learning
every day and I did not ride too many different wings so far.
1st, I like it! It's not a big deal to handle that size and the
longer strut is no problem. (think it helps to keep the wingspan
smaller)
The Superpower does have the deepest profile of all Gong wings.
(...it's made for low wind)
The perfect angle of attack is smaller and therefore needs a bit
more concentration.
The Superpower is more rigit than the 7m Gong original which I
owned before. Thats excellent for pumping (still working on my
technique).
But one should use something smaller if the wind picks up.
Beyond 20kn it gets exhausting ;-)
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Re: Quiver combination
By: Dommo Date: April 14, 2020, 4:38 am
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[quote author=stenninger link=topic=41.msg190#msg190
date=1586855118]
[quote author=Dommo link=topic=41.msg188#msg188 date=1586852343]
Hi Stenninger. How does the Gong superpower handle? I see from
pics that its deeper (longer central strut) and was wondering
what difference that makes to it's handling compared to the
usual designs.
[/quote]
Hm, difficult to answer. Especially because I'm still learning
every day and I did not ride too many different wings so far.
1st, I like it! It's not a big deal to handle that size and the
longer strut is no problem. (think it helps to keep the wingspan
smaller)
The Superpower does have the deepest profile of all Gong wings.
(...it's made for low wind)
The perfect angle of attack is smaller and therefore needs a bit
more concentration.
The Superpower is more rigit than the 7m Gong original which I
owned before. Thats excellent for pumping (still working on my
technique).
But one should use something smaller if the wind picks up.
Beyond 20kn it gets exhausting ;-)
[/quote]
Thanks for this, it really helps. I've got a Gong wing plus 7m
and it's perfect for me in 10 - 15 knots, and have used it in 15
-19knots, which although was a handful it didn't feel out of
control, just a bit if a handful. For me it's minimum wind is
9-11 knots. The reason I'm so interested in the Superpower wings
is because we have soooo many days where the wind is either 6-10
knots, or 8-12 knots. When it's 8-12 the 7m is ok, but unless
it's consistently above 8 knots then forget it. I'm thinking
more of the 9m Superpower for those days that are 6-10 knots.
I'm pretty sure that if its 6 knots consistently then nothing
will fly, but if it gets me flying in a few less knots than the
7m then I might give it go. What do you think?
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