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#Post#: 145--------------------------------------------------
How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 3, 2020, 4:01 pm
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I've got a loaner SUP foil setup that I'd love to try out with a
wing, but I have no wing! I can get a decent deal on a Slingshot
wing, though that might not be my first choice if I were paying
full price. The F-One and Ozone wings seem to be getting more
use online. Does it matter than much? Would a Slingshot 4.2m
wing be a reasonable choice for an all-around wing I'm not
likely to use in less than 15 knots? I also may practice on a
skateboard first.
Thanks!
#Post#: 146--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: Dommo
Date: April 3, 2020, 10:38 pm
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I haven't used them myself but I haven't heard any bad reports
about Slingwings - the people who use them seem to rate them.
Their build quality is excellent and the design seems good. I've
got a Gong 7m wing plus and a Takuma 4m wing ride, and have used
a friends f-one 5m Swing wing.
IMO the f-one has the best in terms of low end power - probably
because its very light and super stiff because the tubes are
quite wide. The trade off with this is that you really feel the
gusts when using it when powered up. It seems delicate but so
far there I haven't seen many (or any!) reports of them falling
apart so the build quality must be good.
The Takuma is built to last - loads of kevlar reinforcing, which
makes it a bit heavier, but its super stable, really
comfortable, and does everythiing it needs to do. I'd say its
top end is better then its bottom end - probably because the
tubes aren't as wide as the f-one, therefore it won't be as
stiff.
The Gong wing plus (i realise at 7m its hard to compare with the
other 2) to me seems to be an allrounder - it's bottom AND top
end are both good. The tubes are quite wide so it holds it's
shape well, it handles really well - it's comfortable and is
stable, it's light for it's size. I was worried that it would be
too bulky and heavy, but i've been really impressed with it.
Yes, you have to concentrate to make sure the wing tip doesn't
catch the water, but it really is a superb wing. I'm 85 kg and
can get going in 9 knots + (that's with a GoFoil maliko 280). I
know there are people who can use much smaller wings, but we
have really choppy conditions, the wind isn't very stable, and
hey, I'm a beginner, so there's room to improve. What I love
about the Gong is that if the wind is super light, I pump the
wing up to its recommended max pressure so it holds its shape,
but if the wind is strong (I've used it in 15-19 knots - not the
most comfortable but at no point did I feel worried) I use less
air pressure so the wing can 'fold' slightly in the gusts so it
effectively dumps the worst of the gusts - sort of like the flex
in the top of a windsurfing sail.
TBH its hard to buy a bad wing, all the big brands are pretty
much designed and built well, but some will have slightly
different characteristics than others. I find when you ask
people why they like their wings so much, most people will rave
on about how good their wing is, but they don't have any
experience of any other types, they just love their wing because
it's theirs! When you spend several hundred notes on a piece of
kit you tend to want to like it!!!!!!
Personally if I could start again I would buy an f-one 6m
(because of it's light wind performance) and either Gong (the
new pulse range), Naish s25 (not the original), Takuma or one of
the MANY others for a smaller wing for when the wind picks up. I
haven't used the Ozone Wasp, but from reviews I've seen I'd say
it's on a par with the f-one.
Here's a really good comparison of the Naish s25 and Ozone Wasp
that outlines the main differences:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutQgDRV4Ic
Other things for you to consider is your weight - if you're
90kg+ you'll need a bigger wing in the same conditions than if
you are -70kg. Its always preferable to use the smallest wing
possible, BUT there's nothing worse than being underpowered. I'd
imagine the slingshot 4.2 will be fine for 15knots+ - unless
maybe you are 90kg+
Best of luck. Whatever route you decide to go with you'll have a
blast for sure ;D ;D ;D ;D
#Post#: 148--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: phil
Date: April 4, 2020, 3:40 am
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It always help to state your body weight with these types of
questions. I would recommend F-One or Naish S25 (not the gen 1
Naish) in the 5 meter range (unless you are particularly light
in which case, 4 meter range)
#Post#: 150--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: gmb13
Date: April 4, 2020, 5:02 am
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--- Quote from: tyler link ---
>
> I've got a loaner SUP foil setup that I'd love to try out with
a wing, but I have no wing! I can get a decent deal on a
Slingshot wing, though that might not be my first choice if I
were paying full price. The F-One and Ozone wings seem to be
getting more use online. Does it matter than much? Would a
Slingshot 4.2m wing be a reasonable choice for an all-around
wing I'm not likely to use in less than 15 knots? I also may
practice on a skateboard first.
>
> Thanks!
>
--- End Quote ---
The Slingwing is not bad, however it is heavy. As long as you
don't go out in light wind, it is fine. The 4.2 really works
well in 25knots or more, under 20knots it is rather gutless and
takes a lot of work the get flying.
Make sure you get it cheap. I am seeing a lot of posts from
teamriders and ambassadors on the new Wing design which looks a
lot better and will probably be availiable soon and make the old
one worthless.
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Gunnar
#Post#: 155--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 4, 2020, 6:21 pm
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Thanks guys. My weight is about 180lbs/80kg. I live in a
strong/gusty wind area (the gorge, Oregon, USA) and mostly
intend to use the wing in bigger wind.
Maybe I'll wait and see what V2 of the slingshot wing looks like
since there's not a lot I can do outside with any wing at the
moment, with all the beaches closed. I thought maybe I could
skateboard with a wing during this quarantine, but it's probably
not worth spending hundreds on a toy that I will only want for a
few weeks and then I'll want something different.
I also have a Moses 1100/483/82 foil on a 120L SUP foil board I
borrowed to try on the water. That seems like it should be a
good beginner rig for the wing.
#Post#: 159--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: gmb13
Date: April 5, 2020, 7:59 am
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--- Quote from: tyler link ---
>
> Thanks guys. My weight is about 180lbs/80kg. I live in a
strong/gusty wind area (the gorge, Oregon, USA) and mostly
intend to use the wing in bigger wind.
>
> Maybe I'll wait and see what V2 of the slingshot wing looks
like since there's not a lot I can do outside with any wing at
the moment, with all the beaches closed. I thought maybe I could
skateboard with a wing during this quarantine, but it's probably
not worth spending hundreds on a toy that I will only want for a
few weeks and then I'll want something different.
>
> I also have a Moses 1100/483/82 foil on a 120L SUP foil board
I borrowed to try on the water. That seems like it should be a
good beginner rig for the wing.
>
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Here is a friend of mine on a proto
HTML https://www.facebook.com/ivan.doronin.16/videos/3092555857453892/
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Gunnar
#Post#: 178--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: tyler
Date: April 10, 2020, 9:10 pm
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After mulling it over for a bit, I discovered that one
SUP/windsurf launch nearby is still open for legal water access,
and after watching it blow 20 knots all day today, I ordered an
Ozone Wasp 5m. Excited for it arrive and I hope that launch is
still open when it gets here!
#Post#: 308--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: Wetstuff
Date: June 23, 2020, 8:11 am
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Tyler, By now I suspect you found yourself in good company.
Cynthia Brown, OZONE team rider, has just returned from her
winter quarters in MEX. Have fun.
Jim
#Post#: 313--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to choose a first wing?
DIR By: phil
Date: June 25, 2020, 12:04 pm
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--- Quote from: tyler link ---
>
> After mulling it over for a bit, I discovered that one
SUP/windsurf launch nearby is still open for legal water access,
and after watching it blow 20 knots all day today, I ordered an
Ozone Wasp 5m. Excited for it arrive and I hope that launch is
still open when it gets here!
>
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How is access at the Gorge these days?
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