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#Post#: 81--------------------------------------------------
Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: dave1986
Date: March 31, 2020, 4:31 pm
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I'm looking to buy a wingfoil setup as soon as lockdown is over
in the UK.
I'm yet to decide what board to buy so looking here for advice.
I'm about 90kg and and intermediate kite foiler (able to gybe/
jump/ ride toeside etc). I'm planning on using a Moses 1100 foil
on either a 72 or 82cm mast.
My dilemma is whether to buy a bigger board around 140 litres
that would be easy to learn on but I risk growing out of it very
quickly... but with the advantage of potentially being big
enough to be able learn surf-foiling with it
Or do I go for somthing a little smaller (but not tiny) around
120 litres 6ft 6 to 6ft 8 length which I wouldn't grow out of
too quickly, but probably a bit on the small side to learn surf
foiling.
Options I'm looking at are:
Starboard Hyper Foil.
- 7ft 7" x 30" / 137 litre
- 6ft 6" x 30" / 116 litre
Indiana SUP Foil
- 6ft 2" x 30" / 130 litre
Fanatic Sky SUP Foil
- 6ft 11" x 30" / 142 litre
- 6ft 7" x 28.5" / 125 litre
Takuma SUP Foil
- 6ft 6" x 27 / 135 litre
Axis Carbon SUP Foilboard
- 6ft 8" x 28" / 120 litre
F-one Rocket Wing
- 6ft 6" x 30" / 135 litre
GONG SUP ZUMA 100% FOIL FSP 2X
- 6ft 6" x 30" / 120 litre
- 6ft 9" x 31" / 140 litre
I would welcome your thoughts and suggestions on both the board
size, as well as the brand/ model.
Dave
#Post#: 86--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: stenninger
Date: April 1, 2020, 2:12 am
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I started with a 6.1 107l (me 82kg) and I'll switch to 5.9 92l
after 6 months riding.
I would recommend a smaller board. 100 or max 110l are enough!
I prefer shorter boards cause pumping is easier with shorter
boards.
#Post#: 90--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: Dommo
Date: April 1, 2020, 3:04 am
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I started with a Naish Hover 6'5" by 31" with 125ltrs. I'm 85kg.
No foiling experience, but am (was! ;)) a competent kitesurfer
and SUP surfer. I found the Naish 125 a great board to start
with, and I didn't ever feel like it held me back, in fact for
downwind foiling it's still perfectly acceptable for me. I'm
upgrading to a shorter board (5'9 by 29") with a bit less volume
(approx 110 ltrs) simply because the time is right for me. The
only other board I've used is an f-one SUP foil board 6'5 by 26"
with 95 ltrs and it was WAY too unstable for me at the time.
I've always preferred a wider board, partly that's just me but
also because its nearly always choppy where I am - if your local
spot is glassy smooth I expect you could get away with less
width. Sea conditions are just as important when selecting kit
as rider skill level and style of riding (ie wave riding,
downwinding, wind wings etc).
Personally I think if you've got the money to spend then its
always going to be best to get a beginner board to start with
and then sell it and upgrade to a smaller board when you're
ready. That way you'll have a much better chance of working out
what board style you prefer. If you get a smaller board to begin
with it'll save you money (if you get it right the first time!)
but it'll make the learning curve harder and therefore longer.
All the boards you've listed are fine, I'd advise discounting
those above 7ft simply because the extra length doesn't seem to
provide many benefits over those from mid 6ft to 7ft.
#Post#: 92--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: dave1986
Date: April 1, 2020, 3:14 am
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--- Quote from: stenninger link ---
>
> I started with a 6.1 107l (me 82kg) and I'll switch to 5.9 92l
after 6 months riding.
> I would recommend a smaller board. 100 or max 110l are enough!
> I perfer shorter boards cause pumping is easier with shorter
boards.
>
--- End Quote ---
That's interesting. How much SUP experience do you have? Did
you learn on flat or choppy water, and how long did it take to
consistently ride on the foil? I read that body weight + 30
litre is about right for a beginner with good board skills which
would be 120 to 125 litre for me.
#Post#: 97--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: phil
Date: April 1, 2020, 5:07 am
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I don't know the specific boards well but I think BW+30 to 40L
is best for learning.
#Post#: 98--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: stenninger
Date: April 1, 2020, 5:44 am
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--- Quote from: dave1986 link ---
>
>
> That's interesting. How much SUP experience do you have? Did
you learn on flat or choppy water, and how long did it take to
consistently ride on the foil? I read that body weight + 30
litre is about right for a beginner with good board skills which
would be 120 to 125 litre for me.
>
--- End Quote ---
I did have kite foil , wave-SUP and windsurfing experience (but
I'm not very talented )
It took me 1 or 2 sessions to ride on the foil. This sport is
not difficult to learn.
The thing is, as soon as your wing is pulling a bit, the extra
volume is useless.
You just need a bit volume while lifting your wing and while
getting up on your feet.
I did start on a choppy lake. After like 5 sessions I even
managed to ride in waves.
I don't see the advantage of more than +20l.
#Post#: 104--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: Dommo
Date: April 1, 2020, 7:18 am
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--- Quote from: stenninger link ---
>
> [quote author=dave1986 link=topic=29.msg92#msg92
date=1585728897]
>
> That's interesting. How much SUP experience do you have? Did
you learn on flat or choppy water, and how long did it take to
consistently ride on the foil? I read that body weight + 30
litre is about right for a beginner with good board skills which
would be 120 to 125 litre for me.
>
--- End Quote ---
I did have kite foil , wave-SUP and windsurfing experience (but
I'm not very talented )
It took me 1 or 2 sessions to ride on the foil. This sport is
not difficult to learn.
The thing is, as soon as your wing is pulling a bit, the extra
volume is useless.
You just need a bit volume while lifting your wing and while
getting up on your feet.
I did start on a choppy lake. After like 5 sessions I even
managed to ride in waves.
I don't see the advantage of more than +20l.
[/quote]
Yeah, I agree with Stenninger about the volume being useless as
soon as you have enough power/pull from the wind wing. I look at
it from both wind winging AND SUP foiling. For the latter, that
little bit of extra volume is a blessing when downwinding or
when paddling back out and waiting for the next wave. If you're
only going to be wing foiling you don't need as much volume :)
#Post#: 105--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: stenninger
Date: April 1, 2020, 8:04 am
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oh yes - agree!
SUP-foiling is a WHOLE DIFFERENT story.
If you need a board for winging and SUP-foiling go for more
volume and more length!
#Post#: 109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: dave1986
Date: April 1, 2020, 10:30 am
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Thanks for all the replies.
So it seems that if I'm looking for a beginner board for only
wing foiling then kg body weight +20 or 30litre is adequate.
But if I plan to also use it for SUP foiling (without a wing)
Then body weight +50litres may be better.
#Post#: 117--------------------------------------------------
Re: Beginner wing foil board options
DIR By: stevez
Date: April 2, 2020, 2:27 am
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My board is 104L and I weigh 76kg. But it's only 5'5" long.
It's a bit of a challenge to SUP, in part because I'm a very
average Supper.
But with a wing in hand it's a piece of cake to balance and
ride.
Wing gives you a lot of stability.
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