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       #Post#: 52--------------------------------------------------
       getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: phil
       Date: March 30, 2020, 3:16 pm
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       Though the wing does allow more access to different locations,
       getting out thru a shore break seems much harder than with a
       kite, for example.  Any techniques or tips to share?
       Phil
       #Post#: 93--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: Dommo
       Date: April 1, 2020, 3:25 am
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       I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so the
       foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       #Post#: 99--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: April 1, 2020, 5:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Dommo link ---
       >
       > I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       > The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       > I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so
       the foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Dommo,
       In larger shorebreak in shallow water I will walk the board out
       as far as I can stand.  I  usually hold the board by the nose on
       the upwind side of me and the wind on the downwind.  side. I
       have the Board flipped up or horizonalt (Mast parallel to the
       water). Once I get into deeper water I flip to board over (foil
       down) and get on the board. Get into surf paddle position, pull
       the wing close, plant my feet on the leading edge of the Wing
       and paddle like crazy to punch through the rest of the waves.
       --
       Gunnar
       #Post#: 100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: Dommo
       Date: April 1, 2020, 7:04 am
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       --- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Dommo link=topic=23.msg93#msg93 date=1585729517]
       > I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       > The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       > I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so
       the foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Dommo,
       In larger shorebreak in shallow water I will walk the board out
       as far as I can stand.  I  usually hold the board by the nose on
       the upwind side of me and the wind on the downwind.  side. I
       have the Board flipped up or horizonalt (Mast parallel to the
       water). Once I get into deeper water I flip to board over (foil
       down) and get on the board. Get into surf paddle position, pull
       the wing close, plant my feet on the leading edge of the Wing
       and paddle like crazy to punch through the rest of the waves.
       --
       Gunnar
       [/quote]
       Cheers Gunnar - appreciate it. Let me check though - the wing is
       floating behind you with the handles facing up, and you hook
       your feet over the leading edge while you are lying on the board
       paddling? Have I got that right?
       #Post#: 102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: April 1, 2020, 7:06 am
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       No.  I have the wing handles down and rest my toes on top of the
       leading edge.  Although I am sure it works the other way round
       too.
       #Post#: 103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: Dommo
       Date: April 1, 2020, 7:08 am
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       --- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
       >
       > No.  I have the wing handles down and rest my toes on top of
       the leading edge.  Although I am sure it works the other way
       round too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Does the white water not push it away from you?
       #Post#: 106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: April 1, 2020, 8:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Dommo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=gmb13 link=topic=23.msg102#msg102
       date=1585742803]
       > No.  I have the wing handles down and rest my toes on top of
       the leading edge.  Although I am sure it works the other way
       round too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Does the white water not push it away from you?
       [/quote]
       Rarely.  It's pretty solidly wedged between be feet and the
       board.
       #Post#: 107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: phil
       Date: April 1, 2020, 8:42 am
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       --- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Dommo link=topic=23.msg93#msg93 date=1585729517]
       > I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       > The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       > I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so
       the foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Dommo,
       In larger shorebreak in shallow water I will walk the board out
       as far as I can stand.  I  usually hold the board by the nose on
       the upwind side of me and the wind on the downwind.  side. I
       have the Board flipped up or horizonalt (Mast parallel to the
       water). Once I get into deeper water I flip to board over (foil
       down) and get on the board. Get into surf paddle position, pull
       the wing close, plant my feet on the leading edge of the Wing
       and paddle like crazy to punch through the rest of the waves.
       --
       Gunnar
       [/quote]
       Very helpful, thanks.  Worth a cup of coffee to me.
       #Post#: 200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: phil
       Date: April 22, 2020, 4:58 am
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       --- Quote from: gmb13 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Dommo link=topic=23.msg93#msg93 date=1585729517]
       > I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       > The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       > I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so
       the foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Dommo,
       In larger shorebreak in shallow water I will walk the board out
       as far as I can stand.  I  usually hold the board by the nose on
       the upwind side of me and the wind on the downwind.  side. I
       have the Board flipped up or horizonalt (Mast parallel to the
       water). Once I get into deeper water I flip to board over (foil
       down) and get on the board. Get into surf paddle position, pull
       the wing close, plant my feet on the leading edge of the Wing
       and paddle like crazy to punch through the rest of the waves.
       --
       Gunnar
       [/quote]
       Once you are deep enough to flip board foil down, what about
       straddling the board and winging out?  Seem that might work
       better than paddling with wing behind you.
       #Post#: 201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: getting out thru shorebreak
   DIR By: gmb13
       Date: April 22, 2020, 6:38 am
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       --- Quote from: phil link ---
       >
       > [quote author=gmb13 link=topic=23.msg99#msg99 date=1585738585]
       > [quote author=Dommo link=topic=23.msg93#msg93 date=1585729517]
       > I'd love to hear peoples experiences on this as well. I saw a
       clip of the maui guys saying they paddle with their board upside
       down with the mast butted up against their shoulder, but this
       was for SUP foiling with a paddle, not while dragging a wind
       wing behind you as well.
       > The method that comes to mind is to kneel on the board and use
       the wing to power you over the breakers, but my local area is
       too shallow - my problem is that I can't flip the board over as
       its too shallow for the majority of the breakers, which means I
       can't have the foil down to kneel on the board.
       > I live in fear of the shorebreak flipping the board over so
       the foil tumbles over onto the wind wing :o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Dommo,
       In larger shorebreak in shallow water I will walk the board out
       as far as I can stand.  I  usually hold the board by the nose on
       the upwind side of me and the wind on the downwind.  side. I
       have the Board flipped up or horizonalt (Mast parallel to the
       water). Once I get into deeper water I flip to board over (foil
       down) and get on the board. Get into surf paddle position, pull
       the wing close, plant my feet on the leading edge of the Wing
       and paddle like crazy to punch through the rest of the waves.
       --
       Gunnar
       [/quote]
       Once you are deep enough to flip board foil down, what about
       straddling the board and winging out?  Seem that might work
       better than paddling with wing behind you.
       [/quote]
       If its sideshore or offshore wind, sure that would work, but in
       onshore paddling is definitely the safer option.
       --
       Gunnar
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