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#Post#: 13371--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: Mr.steve
Date: May 21, 2014, 1:35 pm
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> Steve, come on. The Prosecutor was correct...this has no
merit, and there was no intention of voter fraud. Prosecuting
something like this is just opening a can of worms....which
"felony" will be prosecuted next?
>
> You might have done something good here. Maybe they will start
getting rid of ridiculous laws such as this, or rewriting them
to 2014 standards.
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"Boon told Daily Tribune Media on Wednesday morning that she
chose not to prosecute the case because she didn’t find enough
prosecutorial merit to move forward with the case as a felony.
“My point of view is there was no criminal intent, which I
believe is required by the statute,” Boon said."
She "believes"?!?! She is putting words into the text of the
statute that just aren't there.
#Post#: 13372--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: May 21, 2014, 2:54 pm
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--- Quote from: Linda link ---
>
> Steve, come on. The Prosecutor was correct...this has no
merit, and there was no intention of voter fraud. Prosecuting
something like this is just opening a can of worms....which
"felony" will be prosecuted next?
>
> You might have done something good here. Maybe they will start
getting rid of ridiculous laws such as this, or rewriting them
to 2014 standards.
>
--- End Quote ---
How does one prove intent? I could say I didn't intend to
speed, it just happened. Should that get me out of a ticket?
#Post#: 13374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: Mr.steve
Date: May 21, 2014, 3:47 pm
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> It's the prosecutor's job to make that call. That's what they
get paid to do.
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So we elect an attorney, give them the "oath of office" and pay
them to pick and choose which laws to uphold? I understand that
some cases are not open and shut, that there may be a lack of
convincing evidence and that those cases may be dropped.
However, in this case, the junior emperor admitted to the crime
so it is a conviction guarantee. The state statute is pretty
clear and does not allow for individual interpretation of said
statute. Do DAs and judges get things correct 100% of the time?
Hell no! Did this DA drop the ball and open a can of worms?
Without a doubt. Everyone seems to be falling for the statements
by the gab that no one has been prosecuted under this law but do
you know why? The gab ONLY prosecutes campaign finance
complaints, all other complaints get filed under "g". No one
ever takes these type of complaints straight to the DA except
for....... me!
Here is a question, which holds up in a court of law: state
statute or precedence?
#Post#: 13380--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: Mr.steve
Date: May 21, 2014, 10:42 pm
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> Steve, this whole think is just plain silly. Did you catch him
stuffing the ballot box? No. Did this in ANY WAY affect the
election? No.
>
> Would you have gone to the DA with this if Mayor Vruwink was a
Republican? No.
>
> Do you HONESTLY THINK that someone should be convicted of a
felony for something like this?
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No, no, yes and yes. I'm still waiting for someone to post the
video/audio of the debate on the floor for the bill that became
this law. See, everyone called the gab and the gab agents are
the ones that filled everyones head with this crap of
buying/selling votes. Here is the kicker.... the gab DOESN"T
DEAL with this part of law, they only deal with the FINANCIAL
side( and look at the ruling that was just handed down.... egg
on the face of the gab)! Really though, the gab should be shut
down and the powers be restored to their proper departments.
#Post#: 13382--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: May 21, 2014, 11:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Mr.steve link ---
>
>
> Here is a question, which holds up in a court of law: state
statute or precedence?
>
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Precedent carries an incredible amount of weight. It is what
defines and interprets the law.
Steve, this isn't a big conspiracy.
The prosecutor is required to show there was intent to violate
the law, the law being violated accidentally is not enough.
It's a waste of taxpayer resources, pursuing charges that will
not stick.
#Post#: 13383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: May 21, 2014, 11:16 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> How does one prove intent? I could say I didn't intend to
speed, it just happened. Should that get me out of a ticket?
>
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Not all laws require intent be proven. Most traffic laws fall
into the strict liability category, the violation is black and
white. Felonies often do not, or have lesser tiers based on
intent. That's the difference between Murder and Manslaughter,
for example.
The presumption is that intent is a required element unless the
legislature specifically excluded it, as they did with drunken
driving laws for example.
This law requires intent to defraud. Does anyone believe they
can prove there was?
#Post#: 13385--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: Jeepers
Date: May 22, 2014, 12:05 am
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I'm siding with Linda on this one.
#Post#: 13394--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: Mr.steve
Date: May 23, 2014, 6:13 am
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Yup!
#Post#: 13398--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: FTB41
Date: May 23, 2014, 10:01 am
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This is why we all need to start calling out crazy for what it
is. If we let it go unchecked, it wastes everyone's time and
the public's resources. Worse still, the crazies never learn a
lesson from their humiliating public failures.
#Post#: 13399--------------------------------------------------
Re: Election fraud in Rapids?
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: May 23, 2014, 4:10 pm
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--- Quote from: FTB41 link ---
>
> This is why we all need to start calling out crazy for what it
is. If we let it go unchecked, it wastes everyone's time and
the public's resources. Worse still, the crazies never learn a
lesson from their humiliating public failures.
>
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It's nice to see you calling you and your party out.
Refreshing.
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