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#Post#: 12000--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: ecsmith2
Date: February 26, 2014, 5:38 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> Chill out Ed, you keep getting defensive about a post that had
nothing to do with you. You're starting to stutter and stammer
in your haste to distance yourself from a post that had nothing
to do with you. Did it hit a little close to home or what?
>
--- End Quote ---
Is it appropriate to to follow your lead with the
spelling/grammar games with each other?
wmd102 started, and I offered to play that game with him, but
apparently he was happy to have only done to me, he didn't want
it to go both ways.
My guess is you won't want to have both of post each other's
typing/spelling/grammar mistakes either. You will want to save
the fun for yourself.
#Post#: 12010--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: February 26, 2014, 10:11 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> Is it just me or does it seem like every time somebody in the
administration opens their mouth about Obamacare, they end up
getting three or four Pinocchios?
>
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We could simplify that to "every time anyone in DC opens their
mouth", and still be correct. ;)
Obama's admin is just following longstanding DC Protocol; if
something is a failure, say it's a success. If something costs
money, say it pays for itself. Your opponents deficits are
unfair to our grandkids, your deficits are benign and lovely.
I'm surprised they haven't just stuck the ACA into a military
appropriations bill, then accuse opponents of being 'against the
troops', lol.
#Post#: 12012--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: February 26, 2014, 10:29 pm
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--- Quote from: ecsmith2 link ---
>
>
> Is it appropriate to to follow your lead with the
spelling/grammar games with each other?
>
> wmd102 started, and I offered to play that game with him, but
apparently he was happy to have only done to me, he didn't want
it to go both ways.
>
> My guess is you won't want to have both of post each other's
typing/spelling/grammar mistakes either. You will want to save
the fun for yourself.
>
--- End Quote ---
Your guess is wrong. Did I say anything about your spelling or
grammar? In typical EC fashion you try to twist the thread away
from what's being discussed. You embarrassed yourself. Suck it
up like a man and move on. Your whining is getting annoying.
#Post#: 12013--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: February 26, 2014, 10:35 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
>
> We could simplify that to "every time anyone in DC opens their
mouth", and still be correct. ;)
> Obama's admin is just following longstanding DC Protocol; if
something is a failure, say it's a success. If something costs
money, say it pays for itself. Your opponents deficits are
unfair to our grandkids, your deficits are benign and lovely.
> I'm surprised they haven't just stuck the ACA into a military
appropriations bill, then accuse opponents of being 'against the
troops', lol.
>
--- End Quote ---
No, the ACA was passed on lies and it continues to be lied about
on an almost daily basis. Lying is something that has been a
longstanding part of the DC culture. I won't deny that.
However, IMO, even the Bush administration finally admitted the
WMD lie was based on faulty intelligence. Obamacare is based
on a lie, and the lie continues to be propagated on a daily
basis several years later (see the latest Sebelius lie or the
latest numbers lie by Obama repeated again and again 4 million
my A$$). The amount of Americans harmed by the lies of this
administration far surpasses the lies spread by any previous
administration.
#Post#: 12017--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: ecsmith2
Date: February 26, 2014, 11:05 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
>
> Your guess is wrong. Did I say anything about your spelling
or grammar? In typical EC fashion you try to twist the thread
away from what's being discussed. You embarrassed yourself.
Suck it up like a man and move on. Your whining is getting
annoying.
>
--- End Quote ---
No, you just called me a stutterer because of a simple typing
mistake.
Certainly you have the highest motivations for doing such a
thing, even though it has nothing to do with the topic.
Is insulting the other posters with off topic comments now
appropriate posting? Just checking, as I want to fit in with
your "guidelines".
Not whining, just trying to post like the moderator gets to
post.
You haven't listed the guidelines yet, and you haven't said that
"do as I say, not as I do" is part of your guidelines.
#Post#: 12018--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: ecsmith2
Date: February 26, 2014, 11:09 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
> No, the ACA was passed on lies and it continues to be lied
about on an almost daily basis. Lying is something that has
been a longstanding part of the DC culture. I won't deny that.
However, IMO, even the Bush administration finally admitted the
WMD lie was based on faulty intelligence. Obamacare is based
on a lie, and the lie continues to be propagated on a daily
basis several years later (see the latest Sebelius lie or the
latest numbers lie by Obama repeated again and again 4 million
my A$$). The amount of Americans harmed by the lies of this
administration far surpasses the lies spread by any previous
administration.
>
--- End Quote ---
Mostly I see the whole thing not nearly as bad as you are trying
to make it out to be. It is better than what we had before.
#Post#: 12020--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: February 26, 2014, 11:39 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> The amount of Americans harmed by the lies of this
administration far surpasses the lies spread by any previous
administration.
>
--- End Quote ---
I can't agree with that, considering the number of Americans
killed, injured and/or disabled by an unnecessary excursion in
Iraq, based entirely on lies.
#Post#: 12021--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: February 26, 2014, 11:47 pm
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--- Quote from: ecsmith2 link ---
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>
> It is better than what we had before.
>
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I can't agree with that either. This is only better for a very
small fraction of the population.
Unless you were unable to purchase insurance due to a
preexisting condition, or in certain circumstances- unable to
afford it, you are, in the best scenario, the same as you were
before. Many are now worse off, including a substantial chunk
of the below-poverty level working poor.
Also among the worse-off are those who lost their insurance and
found the policies they could afford on the exchanges have
absurdly-high deductibles. They are now a bankruptcy waiting
to happen.
#Post#: 12024--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: February 27, 2014, 6:17 am
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--- Quote from: ecsmith2 link ---
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>
> Mostly I see the whole thing not nearly as bad as you are
trying to make it out to be. It is better than what we had
before.
>
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I'm not "trying to make it out to be" anything. I'm telling you
what it is. But you OTOH would prefer to say in one post you
aren't a shill pushing Obamcare then in another, push Obamacare
(again). What's next? Are you going to pull a Harry Reid and
call me a liar?
HTML http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/26/great-news-from-harry-reid-all-obamacare-horror-stories-are-untrue/
Back in the "old days" if an insurance agent was known for
pushing more insurance on you than you needed, or over insuring
you, it was considered a bad business practice and he generally
didn't stay in business very long. Today it's the law, you must
be over insured or face fines, taxes and penalties.
#Post#: 12029--------------------------------------------------
Re: GOP change to Obamacare would cost 1 million more workers
their insurance.
DIR By: ecsmith2
Date: February 27, 2014, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
>
> I can't agree with that either. This is only better for a very
small fraction of the population.
>
> Unless you were unable to purchase insurance due to a
preexisting condition, or in certain circumstances- unable to
afford it, you are, in the best scenario, the same as you were
before. Many are now worse off, including a substantial chunk
of the below-poverty level working poor.
> Also among the worse-off are those who lost their insurance
and found the policies they could afford on the exchanges have
absurdly-high deductibles. They are now a bankruptcy waiting
to happen.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
This would be my main motivation for saying it is better
actually, that little has changed for a vast majority of people.
We had a system before that the main goal was to keep health
insurance premiums low for the healthy at the expense of those
needing health care.
It is always interesting about how the high deductibles get
mentioned. You do understand there is a cap for the annual out
of pocket expense that an individual or family has to pay for
health care expenses out of pocket. I don't see how that is
going to increase the number of medical bankruptcies that had
bee occurring prior to the PPACA.
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